NY – Ex POTUS Donald Trump, sued by E. Jean Carroll, DT found liable re sexual assault, $5M award, countersuit dismissed, appeal rejected, 2023

[BetteDavisEyes]

The audience didn't seem to see it this way.

I just don't know why the audience seemed to be all his Repub election deniers. Why didn't they balance that group?

I didn't watch the town hall, nor do I plan to, but I suspect that CNN deliberately selected a Trump-friendly audience to maximize ratings. "Shock" effect, if you will. I've noticed this since the Discovery/Chris Licht takeover of CNN along with other media enterprises. I'm glad that DH and I both like to read because there is little worthwhile viewing on TV these days. JMO

 

[Sillybilly]

Okay folks, we're veering way off topic for this thread. We know it's easy to do with this particular individual, but please leave the general politicking aside and just discuss the CNN Town Hall here as it relates to the E. Jean Carroll case.

Thanks !!

 

[branmuffin]

Usually when a town hall meeting is set up, all interested parties are invited to attend meaning citizens who are ready to ask questions regarding the candidates platform as well as those who want to challenge the candidate. It's not a hand picked audience vetted by the candidate publicity team. That's stacking the deck, similar to stacking the SC.

CNN, thanks to Chris Licht, 'negotiated' with the Trump team and basically caved on anything they requested. So Licht's plan to veer to centre right to attract Fox viewers and mainstream Republicans ensured the meeting went off the rails quickly. And Kaitlin Collins who I think makes an excellent feet on the ground journalist is still too green to host a town hall. Her lack of experience showed she was reluctant to contain a man who's misogynist comments went unchallenged because she was focused on maintaining a pipeline to the Trump team. If this was an effort to boost viewership, it failed miserably.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Any sentient being who has paid attention for the last eight years could have predicted that DJT would steamroll over a female moderator.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

CNN told Trump town hall audience they could applaud but not boo: report

"There were also people that sat there quietly disgusted or bewildered," a Republican told Puck News.

www.salon.com

Audience members were advised against booing and disrespecting former President Donald Trump during the disastrous CNN town hall on Wednesday, according to a Thursday report from Puck News.

Republican political consultant Matthew Bartlett told Puck's senior political correspondent, Tara Palmeri, that while many members of the audience applauded the former president, "there were also people that sat there quietly disgusted or bewildered," estimating that the audience was split in half.

"The floor manager came out ahead of time and said, Please do not boo, please be respectful. You were allowed to applaud," Bartlett said. "And I think that set the tone where people were going to try their best to keep this between the navigational beacons, and that if they felt compelled to applaud, they would, but they weren't going to have an outburst or they weren't going to boo an answer."

Bartlett also said that the GOP frontrunner often "lost the audience" when he spoke about the Jan. 6 insurrection or the 2020 election, despite it appearing that audience was consistently in support of him.

"In a TV setting, you hear the applause, but you don't see the disgust," he said. "So Trump did not have the entire room on his side, make no mistake, even if it certainly came across that way on TV."

 

[SouthAussie]

Any sentient being who has paid attention for the last eight years could have predicted that DJT would steamroll over a female moderator.

And just to think, there are thousands of young people that have grown up in those eight years of blatant misogyny.

Let's hope that they don't think that is a good thing, normal, desired.

 

[Chelly]

Trump CNN town hall highlights include comments on E. Jean Carroll verdict, Jan. 6 and more

Former President Donald Trump said in a CNN town hall that Carroll's story was "fake" and "made up," despite the swift and unanimous verdict.

www.cbsnews.com

Trump called the trial a "rigged deal." He also mocked Carroll's allegation that he sexually assaulted her in the department store, and swore on his children's lives that he did not assault Carroll.

Kimberly Rice, a Republican and former speaker pro tempore of the New Hampshire House of Representatives, told CBS News' Robert Costa earlier Wednesday that she hopes everyone takes the verdict seriously.

"I've been in a position before where a boss has chased me around. And, you know, women should be believed," she said. "The jurors saw the evidence … Just because you're a celebrity does not give you a right to sexually abuse anyone."

 

[crussell821]

Trump CNN town hall highlights include comments on E. Jean Carroll verdict, Jan. 6 and more

Former President Donald Trump said in a CNN town hall that Carroll's story was "fake" and "made up," despite the swift and unanimous verdict.

www.cbsnews.com

Trump called the trial a "rigged deal." He also mocked Carroll's allegation that he sexually assaulted her in the department store, and swore on his children's lives that he did not assault Carroll.

Kimberly Rice, a Republican and former speaker pro tempore of the New Hampshire House of Representatives, told CBS News' Robert Costa earlier Wednesday that she hopes everyone takes the verdict seriously.

"I've been in a position before where a boss has chased me around. And, you know, women should be believed," she said. "The jurors saw the evidence … Just because you're a celebrity does not give you a right to sexually abuse anyone."

A ‘rigged deal’.
Big words from a man who took out full page ads to accuse five teenagers of a rape they did not commit and call for their deaths.
MOO

 

[Stunned]

Trump CNN town hall highlights include comments on E. Jean Carroll verdict, Jan. 6 and more

Former President Donald Trump said in a CNN town hall that Carroll's story was "fake" and "made up," despite the swift and unanimous verdict.

www.cbsnews.com

Trump called the trial a "rigged deal." He also mocked Carroll's allegation that he sexually assaulted her in the department store, and swore on his children's lives that he did not assault Carroll.

Kimberly Rice, a Republican and former speaker pro tempore of the New Hampshire House of Representatives, told CBS News' Robert Costa earlier Wednesday that she hopes everyone takes the verdict seriously.

"I've been in a position before where a boss has chased me around. And, you know, women should be believed," she said. "The jurors saw the evidence … Just because you're a celebrity does not give you a right to sexually abuse anyone."

I think he considers it “hanky panky” if I’m remembering correctly. So he can safely swear on his children’s life he didn’t rape E. Jean Carroll. He hanky panked her. IMO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I think he considers it “hanky panky” if I’m remembering correctly. So he can safely swear on his children’s life he didn’t rape E. Jean Carroll. He hanky panked her. IMO

"I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN"

 

[JerseyGirl]

Trump town hall slurs against E. Jean Carroll ‘definitely actionable,’ lawyer says

Writer E. Jean Carroll’s lawyer says former President Trump’s comments bashing Carroll during his recent CNN town hall are “definitely actionable” after a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse a…

thehill.com

Writer E. Jean Carroll’s lawyer says former President Trump’s comments bashing Carroll during his recent CNN town hall are “definitely actionable” after a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse against her.

“So it’s definitely actionable. And here the cruelty will make him less wealthy. He is not going to get away with it another time,” attorney Roberta Kaplan said on MSNBC’s “The Interview,” appearing alongside Carroll.

“It’s unprecedented for a person to have been held liable in defamation to keep doing the defamation, so there are not a lot of cases that we can look to for a playbook about how to do it,” she said. “But, suffice to say, I have a lot of lawyers who are very busy looking into this, and we are weighing all of our options.”

 

[crussell821]

Trump town hall slurs against E. Jean Carroll ‘definitely actionable,’ lawyer says

Writer E. Jean Carroll’s lawyer says former President Trump’s comments bashing Carroll during his recent CNN town hall are “definitely actionable” after a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse a…

thehill.com

Writer E. Jean Carroll’s lawyer says former President Trump’s comments bashing Carroll during his recent CNN town hall are “definitely actionable” after a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse against her.

“So it’s definitely actionable. And here the cruelty will make him less wealthy. He is not going to get away with it another time,” attorney Roberta Kaplan said on MSNBC’s “The Interview,” appearing alongside Carroll.

“It’s unprecedented for a person to have been held liable in defamation to keep doing the defamation, so there are not a lot of cases that we can look to for a playbook about how to do it,” she said. “But, suffice to say, I have a lot of lawyers who are very busy looking into this, and we are weighing all of our options.”

Good. Sue the pants off of him. Keep him tied up in litigation, keep him blubbering and running his mouth on his pathetic social media. Take every dime you can.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Top aides reveal Trump’s alleged inappropriate conduct towards female staffers

Former Trump administration aides say his boorish behaviour towards women didn’t stop when he was in the White House. Andrew Feinberg reports

www.independent.co.uk

Just one week after a Manhattan jury found former president Donald Trump liable for sexually assaulting and defaming writer E Jean Carroll, no fewer than three women who had senior roles in his administration have come forward to allege inappropriate behaviour on Mr Trump’s part towards women on his White House staff.

The trio includes two of Mr Trump’s top lieutenants, Alyssa Farah Griffin — his ex-White House communications director who now co-hosts ABC’s The View — and Stephanie Grisham, who served as press secretary for both Mr Trump and former First Lady Melania Trump in addition to serving as Ms Trump’s chief of staff.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Jury instructions in a second E. Jean Carroll lawsuit would be brutal for Trump: legal expert​

"...As Herrmann explained, "The judgment at the recent trial (unless reversed on appeal) will be binding, as collateral estoppel, when that second case is tried. (When a court decides an issue between two parties, that decision is generally binding; neither party can relitigate it.)""

"Thus, at the next trial, the judge will tell the jury, more or less: 'I instruct you that Donald Trump committed sexual battery on E. Jean Carroll. You do not have to think about that issue. That has already been decided, and it is a fact. In this case, you must decide only whether Donald Trump’s statements while he was president defamed E. Jean Carroll,'" he predicted before suggesting, "If you thought that defending the recent case against Trump was hard, just imagine the trouble someone would have trying to defend the next case."

He then predicted, "That second case will either be settled or E. Jean Carroll will win at trial, perhaps years from now when that case approaches trial.""

Jury instructions in a second E. Jean Carroll lawsuit would be brutal for Trump: legal expert

 

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Full interview here.

 

[sds71]

E. Jean Carroll says "hundreds" of people have contacted her seeking advice on how to sue their own alleged abusers after she won a civil lawsuit against former President Donald Trump, who a jury unanimously agreed sexually abused her in the mid-1990s.

"They think, 'Well, if the former President of the United States can be held liable for sexual abuse, well then maybe my stepfather, maybe my old boss, maybe my ex-boyfriend, maybe that man who lived down the street — maybe I can hold them accountable for ruining my life,'" Carroll told Insider in an interview Thursday

E. Jean Carroll says 'hundreds' of people asked her how to sue their abusers since her win against Donald Trump

Donald Trump is facing the prospect of more litigation from E. Jean Carroll after he attacked her again following his court loss.

www.businessinsider.com

 

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[JerseyGirl]

E. Jean Carroll's lawyer's stark warning to Trump

"I think I was a little stunned that he used exactly the same language," lawyer Roberta Kaplan said in a recent interview.

www.newsweek.com

Roberta Kaplan, the lawyer who represented writer E. Jean Carroll in a recent defamation case against Donald Trump, warned the former president against continuing to defame her client in similar ways.

"I knew he would continue to deny it. But once the jury came back and the CNN town hall was on, we knew they were going to ask about it," Kaplan said. "And we knew he wasn't going to say, 'OK, now I admit it, I was wrong. I'm so sorry E. Jean, that I did that to you.' We knew that wasn't gonna happen."

She continued: "I think I was a little stunned that he used exactly the same language. He basically repeated the defamation in ways that make it very easy for us to not have to prove a future case on the merits, because we're gonna get what's called collateral estoppel or issue preclusion. So that wasn't maybe the wisest thing for him to do."

Kaplan cited a legal principle that is alternately known as both collateral estoppel and issue preclusion, which states that an issue that has been "validly, finally, and actually" litigated in a prior case cannot be litigated again. In essence, Kaplan said that Trump and his legal team would face severe limitations in arguing that his town hall comments were not defamation, given their similarity to the comments at the center of the previous case in which a jury sided with Carroll.

 

[sds71]

“The court filing on Monday argues Mr. Trump’s defamatory statements following the verdict “show the depth of his malice toward Carroll, since it is hard to imagine defamatory conduct that could possibly be more motivated by hatred, ill will or spite.”

Monday’s filing came in a separate defamation lawsuit that Ms. Carroll had filed in 2019 against Mr. Trump, 76, which is before the same judge who presided in the civil trial but had been sidetracked by appeals. The older case stemmed from comments Mr. Trump made that year, shortly after she said that he had raped her in a Manhattan department store dressing room in the mid-1990s. That lawsuit is still pending.

“It makes a mockery of the jury verdict and our justice system if he can just keep on repeating the same defamatory statements over and over again,” Ms. Kaplan said

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790.156.0_1.pdf

E. Jean Carroll Seeks New Damages From Trump for Comments on CNN (Published 2023)

The former president’s repeated denials that he sexually abused Ms. Carroll “show the depth of his malice” and merit heavy damages, her lawyer wrote.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Chelly]

The writer E. Jean Carroll on Monday filed court papers seeking “very substantial” monetary damages from former President Donald Trump for his scathing remarks about her at a CNN town hall on the heels of losing a $5 million lawsuit.

Carroll’s move came as her lawyers asked a Manhattan federal court judge for permission to amend the original defamation lawsuit she filed against Trump to reflect his new statements about her, which they say likewise are defamatory.

Trump faces 'substantial damages' claim from E. Jean Carroll over CNN town hall remarks

The writer E. Jean Carroll is seeking to amend her New York federal court defamation lawsuit against Donald Trump after his CNN town hall comments about her.

www.cnbc.com