NY - 2 yr old sexually attacked by Pitbull, Tonawanda

  • #41
Oh, and about diapers not being on a child - I had several kids I homeschooled at one time - and the boy and girl two year olds wouldn't keep clothes or diapers on ... no matter what I did. I almost duct taped them on until I realized it was just easier to potty train them naked.
 
  • #42
Totally gobsmaked. I cant believe this happened, if it truly did. We need more information.
 
  • #43
Wow, what a horrible story. I agree that we need more information considering the initial attack happened inside where the neighbors couldn't see what happened.
 
  • #44
I want to know what comes back on the DNA results. This is the most horrible story I have ever read. I have a 19 month old boy, I can't even begin to understand any of this.
 
  • #45
I don't think the issue is going to come down to DNA.
From what some have posted here .. It is possible if the dog was trained to do this..
The difficulty is going to be finding out who trained the dog?
 
  • #46
If this 2 year old wasn't in a diaper, that isn't unusual... if he was running around naked, that isn't unusual. Before coming down on the mother about a diaper issue, understand: diapering is a cultural issue. In eastern culture, diapering a child is not common. A lot of people in western culture adopt the more natural approach used by the eastern cultures when dealing with infant elimination. And who isn't to say that the 2 year old didn't pull his diaper or clothing off, if he was indeed covered at one point?

The sticking point for me is this: what led to the incident... how much of it was the mother responsible for... and why, for gods sake would a parent leave a toddler alone with a breed of dog that is known for its aggressive behavior. I am one of those that will say that nature to nurture is a factor with animals like pit bulls, but no matter how well you treat or train a dog to be the sweetest dog in the world, if it is by nature a problematic breed, you put the safety of your child ahead of the pet and keep an eye on the child and animal. Rotties are known to be problematic breeds, but my ex's family had a very gentle one that was a house pet... as gentle as he was, though, there was no way I would let my toddlers be alone with it, because sometimes nature out weighs nurture and I wasn't taking that chance.
 
  • #47
I can beleieve it. When my son was a toddler he would often crawl around on the floor playing with his matchbox cars. My parent's dog ( lab & dob mix) with stand next to him humping the air. We always swatted the dog and sent him on his way. But for some reason when he saw the child on the floor crawling he would act that way. Never when my son walked or ran. I know that dog wasn't programed to be attracted to kids.
I think the only Difference between my son & the boy in this story is he was always supervised around animals and clothed.
 
  • #48
I don't think the issue is going to come down to DNA.
From what some have posted here .. It is possible if the dog was trained to do this..
The difficulty is going to be finding out who trained the dog?

Ohhh, so it IS possible. OMG, I am sick. I had heard/read about people messing with animals, but never of dogs and people having sex....ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
 
  • #49
I had a friend who had a babysitter that went to jail because she forced my friend and her sister to watch her have sex with her dog. And she made the dog lick them. It went on for months before they got up the nerve to tell someone and she was investigated. There are sick sick people in the world.
 
  • #50
Okay, first let me say I've never seen it nor have desire to, but I've heard from folks that if you're into the really hardcore 🤬🤬🤬🤬 and know the right folks, you can SEE dogs having sex with people. YUCK, but it IS out there.
 
  • #51
When a dog mounts a child or even an adult it is most often a demonstration of social dominance, not an actual attempt to breed. Dogs commonly do this to each other as well. It is a non-aggressive way for the dog to show that he is above whomever it is he/she is doing it to. Sometimes it is even a female dog doing the mounting.

It is possible for this bizarre rape to have happened, but I do have doubts until I see proof. This is because even when dogs breed, both male and female must position themselves properly. Plus, the poor child would have had to have no clothes on from at least the waist down.

If this did actually occur and it was a true sexual act on the part of the dog, most likely the dog smelled something on the boy that would have sparked him to attempt to breed. Dogs are go by smell when breeding, first and foremost.

I am sorry if this sounds just awful, but I am just trying to explain what I can for a better understanding.

Lion
 
  • #52
When a dog mounts a child or even an adult it is most often a demonstration of social dominance, not an actual attempt to breed. Dogs commonly do this to each other as well. It is a non-aggressive way for the dog to show that he is above whomever it is he/she is doing it to. Sometimes it is even a female dog doing the mounting.

It is possible for this bizarre rape to have happened, but I do have doubts until I see proof. This is because even when dogs breed, both male and female must position themselves properly. Plus, the poor child would have had to have no clothes on from at least the waist down.

If this did actually occur and it was a true sexual act on the part of the dog, most likely the dog smelled something on the boy that would have sparked him to attempt to breed. Dogs are go by smell when breeding, first and foremost.

I am sorry if this sounds just awful, but I am just trying to explain what I can for a better understanding.

Lion
you took the words right out of my mouth.
 
  • #53
When a dog mounts a child or even an adult it is most often a demonstration of social dominance, not an actual attempt to breed. Dogs commonly do this to each other as well. It is a non-aggressive way for the dog to show that he is above whomever it is he/she is doing it to. Sometimes it is even a female dog doing the mounting.

It is possible for this bizarre rape to have happened, but I do have doubts until I see proof. This is because even when dogs breed, both male and female must position themselves properly. Plus, the poor child would have had to have no clothes on from at least the waist down.

If this did actually occur and it was a true sexual act on the part of the dog, most likely the dog smelled something on the boy that would have sparked him to attempt to breed. Dogs are go by smell when breeding, first and foremost.

I am sorry if this sounds just awful, but I am just trying to explain what I can for a better understanding.

Lion

You explained it quite well (and as delicately as possible).

But I wouldn't agree mounting is "non-aggressive." It is certainly an act of aggression. Any attempt to establish dominance is "aggression"; that's what aggression is. Mounting is just not as potentially violent as some other behaviors; at least not when the mounting is between dogs.
 
  • #54
I do know dogs can have sex with people (if you want to put it that way). NOT from personal experience, mind you, but I have knowledge of criminal cases where this was involved. It DOES happen. As people have pointed out, it is very likely that the dog was programmed to do this. Something is seriously amiss in this home. Perhaps adults messing with dogs and an unfortunate toddler running around naked became a victim (or worse, eeek). Pit bulls being more aggressive just makes it more likely, imo. But you all know I don't trust pits. I am going to ask my favorite vet about this (my dad). The DNA test is going to be very interesting. This poor child, My God.

Eve
 
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  • #56
Did the article say the child was raped or assaulted? Do we know there was penetration at all?
 
  • #57
I would think the baby would have been screaming before the dog supposedly entered him. Just the dog grabbing hold should have scared him and I would imagine the baby would not just lay there, he would have been moving around. This is very odd. Something is very wrong here!!
 
  • #58
Did the article say the child was raped or assaulted? Do we know there was penetration at all?
Yes there was...the child required surgery.
 
  • #59
  • #60
Wow! I am shocked beyond belief if this actually happened.

A few things don't make sense, though.
Someone may be using the dog as a scapegoat.
 

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