GUILTY NY - 30 injured in Manhattan bombing, 17 Sept 2016 *Ahmad Khan Rahimi arrested*

[CARIIS]

JMO
I am getting tired that every time this happens it seems LE is willing to give a free pass to all the people he was staying with who most likely knew of his plans to kill. Just because LE got the main person who did the actual bombing does not mean that others did not harbor this terrorist, knew of his plans, provided a place to build the bombs, may have provided funds to help buy the materials, and on and on.

Everyone who lived in that apartment above the chicken place would have had to have seen things and most likely knew what he was doing. Its not like the place was a huge place. It was rather small place.

So why are we all of a sudden hearing "crickets" about the pullover of the alleged family members who were trying to flee with weapons no less. I believe most all of #2 in this article.
"The New York Times reports that the suspects were mostly from the same family and “may” have been headed to JFK Airport."
I think the media is just hushing it all up now and giving them a pass. Why?

Handguns are illegal in NYC and if they had any of those and were in city limits at time of pullover then that alone would be gun charges. Illegal possession of handguns.


http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/ahmed...ame-photos-facebook-page-terrorist-tannerite/

When i read that i thought that was very strange way of saying it! I think some of the people in the car let him make the bombs there - and for some reason think that the only family members in the car might have been mom and dad .

If so mom and dad cleared. Wonder if some of his friends were the rest of the group in the car, and kind yanked the parents out .

Kinda like whatever there names were ma pa your son did this (they knew nothing) we gotta get out of here now. They have been here a long time, an would know they could be supects, so agreed that they should try to split

OR were mostly from the same family that allowed him to make bombs in their living room. Just have trouble beleiving that mom and dad would allow there kid to make bombs right above their livlihood.

WOnder what the stab sister was about?? Is there polcie reprot anywhere??

I do find it somewhat colorfull that the media is playing that he is not talking to cops a big story. Did any of us really expect a confession - that is obserd - I would not be surprised if he does the fifth. Dont count IMO on a detailed outline - that is obserd.

Would love to hear him talk- to see if he sounds bright or as simple and stupid as the last 72 hours appear to indicate.

OR

Media may have got the idea that it was his family in the car by that wording:

suspects were mostly from the same family NOT his family-

 

[Inthedetails]

[FONT="] often railed against American culture.[/FONT]

Intersting it might have been anti american govt focused on AMerican govt - as it relates to govt officials and his parents restaurant.

He targeted a , military parade - on a route that is surrouded by restaurants on the boardwalk. Sound like a stretch I know, but as more comes out the battle with the city was ahuge deal for him and his family

His family was hassled ( would be his view) by govt officials as it relates to his parents business and livlihood.

But the key thing I wondered why he placed the first bomb in what is in fact a thriving commericial area filled with restuarants who are open as late as they want, noisy (!) everything his parent were not allowed to do.

WHy not leave it in a subway, he attacked commerical privatly owned enterprises. WOnder how many restaurants were in close proxmity to where he placed the first one.

Does anyone know if there are a string of reatuarants where the second one was placed? It was off the main path - I wonder if there are restaurants around there .

My speculation is that the bomb by the race in the morning was an ode to the Boston bombers.

The bombs in Chelsea, with its large LBG population, were an ode to the Pulse terrorist.

The bombs in Elizabeth....I don't know. Maybe he was trying to make his own signature with them.

jmopinion

 

[CARIIS]

WOnder if other establishements in the area had to close at 10?

 

[jjenny]

My speculation is that the bomb by the race in the morning was an ode to the Boston bombers.

The bombs in Chelsea, with its large LBG population, were an ode to the Pulse terrorist.

The bombs in Elizabeth....I don't know. Maybe he was trying to make his own signature with them.

jmopinion

He might have dumped his remaining bombs in Elizabeth because he knew police are onto him.

 

[CARIIS]

My speculation is that the bomb by the race in the morning was an ode to the Boston bombers.

The bombs in Chelsea, with its large LBG population, were an ode to the Pulse terrorist.

The bombs in Elizabeth....I don't know. Maybe he was trying to make his own signature with them.

jmopinion

As usual interesting TY -

I wonder if Inspire magazine receipe gives "cooking time"!

He made a lot of bombs starting to wonder if his deadline was sept 11?

obviouly not profecient so he may have been delayed moo

 

[Hatfield]

At this point it sounds like that whole thing was a wacky misunderstanding. I wish someone would find out what happened, but if it really was okay and innocent I guess we'll never know?

I dont think it was a misunderstanding at all. I think it is just being "squashed" now by certain media outlets because of pressure from the powers that be. I bet the FBI has probably taken them away for their own protection. There was way too much detail about the pullover for it to be all just a mistake. The FBI does not haul off people to thier own office unless they know exactly who they were. It would make sense if FBI decided to protect them instead of letting them go back to their apartment to be hounded by media.



"They were brought to an FBI office for questioning, according to reports."
"were mostly from the same family and “may” have been headed to JFK Airport."

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/ahmed...ame-photos-facebook-page-terrorist-tannerite/

 

[CARIIS]

wow that is really easy to see someone

looks more like a sucide by cop invitation than I imagined!

That is NOT hiding

 

[i.b.nora]

The NYTimes article said:

“On Sunday evening, increasingly confident that Mr. Rahami might be involved in the bombing, the police rushed to act when they saw a car leaving an address associated with him.

The car was pulled over on the Belt Parkway near the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in Brooklyn. Five people inside were questioned and later released.”​

I don't 'get' that from that we should infer that the occupants were Mom, Pop, and the other kids.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/nyregion/nyc-nj-explosions-ahmad-khan-rahami.html

 

[Inthedetails]

As usual interesting TY -

I wonder if Inspire magazine receipe gives "cooking time"!

He made a lot of bombs starting to wonder if his deadline was sept 11?

obviouly not profecient so he may have been delayed moo

:maddening:

 

[Momoffourboys]

Suspect in Times Square last year. He is on the right.

https://www.facebook.com/marymurphy...551514902988/1791057734452362/?type=3&theater

 

[CARIIS]

CNN apparently using a cell phone alarm is very difficult to do

 

[jjenny]

My other speculation is that these guys either want to be killed during the act or by the cops, or go to jail. I really don't think they want do the crime and escape. If they die, they are heros. If they go to jail, they recruit.

:maddening::maddening::maddening:

Boston bombers were trying to escape as I recall. Wanted to commit more crimes.

 

[jjenny]

CNN apparently using a cell phone alarm is very difficult to do

Maybe that's why most of his bombs didn't work.

 

[Inthedetails]

He might have dumped his remaining bombs in Elizabeth because he knew police are onto him.

Yeah, that's what we're hearing and maybe it's true. Something about it though doesn't seem like a desperate dump to me.

Wasn't it near a train track, but the homeless guys moved it? Could be he wanted to disrupt the train routes on a Sunday night, which would really mess up the system in time for the work week.

jmopinion

 

[Inthedetails]

Boston bombers were trying to escape as I recall. Wanted to commit more crimes.

And one is dead and the other in jail.

 

[CARIIS]

My other speculation is that these guys either want to be killed during the act or by the cops, or go to jail. I really don't think they want do the crime and escape. If they die, they are heros. If they go to jail, they recruit.

:maddening::maddening::maddening:

The more I reflect I def going cop by suicide - really cant buy that anyone would beleive that shooting at a cop at point blank is not gonna result in your a## getting shot is pretty out there!!

I would say he was probaly ready to leave this world basically one bomb blew out a PLASTIC garbage can a little bit and another scratched some folks , he has hours to ponder that they have great pics

I think throwing out the five of them kinda indicates a surroender of some sort and crashing on a corner store totally out in the open is pretty tranparent in some ways moo

 

[CARIIS]

The NYTimes article said:

“On Sunday evening, increasingly confident that Mr. Rahami might be involved in the bombing, the police rushed to act when they saw a car leaving an address associated with him.

The car was pulled over on the Belt Parkway near the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in Brooklyn. Five people inside were questioned and later released.”​

I don't 'get' that from that we should infer that the occupants were Mom, Pop, and the other kids.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/nyregion/nyc-nj-explosions-ahmad-khan-rahami.html

Overall I think that was media messing up -- much more dramatic family taken into custudy

but LE never said that so I think media !

 

[x_files]

Rahimi had a series of escalating run-ins with the law, beginning 2008 when he spent a day in jail for unpaid parking tickets, and another in 2012 after he allegedly violated a restraining order, the New York Times reports. In 2014, Rahami spent three days in jail on weapons and aggravated assault charges, after allegedly stabbing a person in the leg, the New York Times reports. A grand jury dropped Rahami’s charges for the fight, which allegedly began as a domestic dispute.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/19/ahmad-khan-rahami-arrested-but-questions-remain-about-bombings.html?via=desktop&source=twitter

the parking tix are no biggie but the assault charges shouldn't have been dropped. yikes!

 

[Hatfield]

The NYTimes article said:

“On Sunday evening, increasingly confident that Mr. Rahami might be involved in the bombing, the police rushed to act when they saw a car leaving an address associated with him.

The car was pulled over on the Belt Parkway near the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in Brooklyn. Five people inside were questioned and later released.”
​

I don't 'get' that from that we should infer that the occupants were Mom, Pop, and the other kids.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/nyregion/nyc-nj-explosions-ahmad-khan-rahami.html

JMO
Re BBM
LE obviously were staking out the chicken restaurant by then and as soon as they saw the vehicle leave they followed them hoping they would lead to other terrorists but when they realized they were going to the airport they pulled them over in a perfect place where they could not escape. On the Verazanno bridge.
Probably had both ends blocked.

It had to be the relatives. Nobody else would be leaving from that address.

All the other articles talk about father and brothers helping to run the restaurant. They didnt just disappear after today. My guess is the reports were exactly as the early reports stated. I bet FBI has them in a protected location. That way they are protected from media hounds and FBI can keep an eye on them while investigation goes on.

 

[CARIIS]

oh come on media - they should have flagged him :

he lived here for what 21 years

ma and pa have a fast food

he was over there for a year

sounds like a terrorist , in hindsight its always easy to say that

they dont have the resources to tail a 21 year resident of the US , who goes back to his land of orgin

IMO the truth here is that You Tube Facebook should step in and alert based on what people are posting -- then let officials decide

I am not talking about a post or two - incessant posting - it would probably take 10 min to write the code to flag websites visited .

I mean we know some terrorist propaganda news orgainzations , someone going there 2,874 in the past year - might be a better indicator of some intent.

We know about bomb classes online - same theroy someone going there 2,457 is probably not a "curious" person.

I am not talking censorship - do not take them off line, but a direct individual to watch online activity on might be more reasonable than what we got going on

You Tube Google FB need to take some repsonsiblity for lone wolf , it seems reasonable to ask them to throw the FBI a bone.

Lets make it FBI cant do anything to anyone for doing that , but it might direct resources whom to put their eyes on

After visiting the website How to make bombs thousands of times , and then there is an order for dynamite , and then pressure cookers, and then an arsonal,and then posting threats it might be a good idea to do some more monitoring, kinda like a prescreen!

But people are allowed to search , look and read anything -- kinda more doable than throwing out every Muslim in the world moo Obviously how we are doing it aint working