NY - Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking, 6 July 2019 #2 *FOUND DECEASED IN JAIL

[Betty P]

Frank Figliuzzi, a former FBI Assistant Director for counterintelligence said that Barr’s Father, Donald Barr, once hired Epstein to teach at Dalton School, a private academy in New York City. Back in 1973, even though Epstein had not obtained a college degree, Donald brought Epstein, who was only 20 years old, and had dropped out of both Cooper Union and New York University’s Courant Institute, was brought board to teach calculus and physics.

The young teacher appeared to be successful at Dalton. A 2003 profile by The New Yorker wrote of his teaching years, “he was something of a Robin Williams-in-Dead Poets Society type of figure, wowing his high-school classes with passionate mathematical riffs. So impressed was one Wall Street father of a student that he said to Epstein point-blank: “What are you doing teaching math at Dalton? You should be working on Wall Street — why don’t you give my friend Ace Greenberg a call.
AG William Barr’s Personal Ties to Jeffrey Epstein | Heavy.com

Epstein likes to tell people that he’s a loner, a man who’s never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery

I think we need an independent investigator and a bi-partisan Congressional investigation, both with subpeona power. No one should be involved in the decision-making, oversight or investigating process who has any conflict of interest. Like we used to do it in the old days.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Epstein's suicide means NDAs he required people to sign are now Null. Pilots, housekeepers, accomplices, victims, etc are free to talk.

Does anyone know if attorney/client privilege still applies if the client is dead?

I'm thinking of Dershowitz.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I think we need an independent investigator and a bi-partisan Congressional investigation, both with subpeona power. No one should be involved in the decision-making, oversight or investigating process who has any conflict of interest. Like we used to do it in the old days.

I couldn’t agree more!

 

[Gardenista]

What happens to Jeffrey Epstein’s money and homes now? Can feds seize everything?

https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article233748362.html

 

[Betty P]

Sex trafficking is a crime and nobody involved past or present should be in a position of power.....EVER!
jmo

Agree, and it should never become socially acceptable for people to be involved in that kind of work, where women and children are abused, emotionally and financially manipulated, separated from family and friends, etc.

If people really need to engage in this kind of thing as a hobby, obsession or addiction or whatever, maybe its time we consider legalizing and regulating prostitution for adult sex workers.

 

[Elley Mae]

Frank Figliuzzi, a former FBI Assistant Director for counterintelligence said that Barr’s Father, Donald Barr, once hired Epstein to teach at Dalton School, a private academy in New York City. Back in 1973, even though Epstein had not obtained a college degree, Donald brought Epstein, who was only 20 years old, and had dropped out of both Cooper Union and New York University’s Courant Institute, was brought board to teach calculus and physics.

The young teacher appeared to be successful at Dalton. A 2003 profile by The New Yorker wrote of his teaching years, “he was something of a Robin Williams-in-Dead Poets Society type of figure, wowing his high-school classes with passionate mathematical riffs. So impressed was one Wall Street father of a student that he said to Epstein point-blank: “What are you doing teaching math at Dalton? You should be working on Wall Street — why don’t you give my friend Ace Greenberg a call.
AG William Barr’s Personal Ties to Jeffrey Epstein | Heavy.com

Epstein likes to tell people that he’s a loner, a man who’s never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery

Frank Figliuzzi is a conspiracy crack pot. <jmo

NBC News contributor raises suspicions over Trump's order to fly US flags half-staff until Aug. 8

NBC News contributor raises suspicions over Trump's order to fly US flags half-staff until Aug. 8

....

Meanwhile

FBI: Conspiracy theory ‘extremists’ are a terror threat

https://nypost.com/2019/08/01/fbi-conspiracy-theory-extremists-are-a-terror-threat/


Seems the fbi should have a little sit down with him.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Also caught in the furor is Ehud Barak, a former Israeli prime minister. While he was not mentioned in the newly released court documents, his ties with Epstein are also being scrutinized.

The Times of Israel reported Saturday that Barak had business dealings with Epstein and was a frequent visitor to his homes. NBC News was not able to confirm these reports.

“Barak, who entered a business deal with Epstein in 2015, years after the American financier served time for solicitation, has called long-rumored allegations of sex trafficking by Epstein ‘abhorrent’ and announced that he had officially cut off all business ties with him,” the paper said.

When Barak announced his intentions to run in the upcoming national election earlier this summer, his possible links to Epstein became a hot-button issue in Israel.

Last month, Barak defended his business ties to Epstein, explaining that at the time of his work with him he believed the businessman had paid his debt to society, The Times of Israel reported.
Prince Andrew among global figures under scrutiny after Epstein’s death

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Agree, and it should never become socially acceptable for people to be involved in that kind of work, where women and children are abused, emotionally and financially manipulated, separated from family and friends, etc.

If people really need to engage in this kind of thing as a hobby, obsession or addiction or whatever, maybe its time we consider legalizing and regulating prostitution for adult sex workers.

Or maybe raise our children and future generation with a moral compass.
jmo

 

[rsd1200]

Agree, and it should never become socially acceptable for people to be involved in that kind of work, where women and children are abused, emotionally and financially manipulated, separated from family and friends, etc.

If people really need to engage in this kind of thing as a hobby, obsession or addiction or whatever, maybe its time we consider legalizing and regulating prostitution for adult sex workers.

The only reason we haven't legalized it, is b/c they can't figure out a way to tax the folks working on their own, yet. Look at the industry. They're having sex for pay... That won't take away folks like Epstein though, who have other proclivities.

 

[sds71]

Does anyone know if attorney/client privilege still applies if the client is dead?
I'm thinking of Dershowitz.

I think it applies after death but can
can waved by his estate

 

[Betty P]

Or maybe raise our children and future generation with a moral compass.
jmo

True, but it's hard to do even that when "influencers" in business, government, etc. are or were part of that subculture. People are free to do what they want in the privacy of their own home, but they shouldn't be venerated or elevated to positions of authority. They shouldn't be held up as role models for young people, promoting their sordid backgrounds and making them seem trendy, like "liberated", edgy people.

 

[firebird]

Does anyone know if attorney/client privilege still applies if the client is dead?

I'm thinking of Dershowitz.

It does

 

[Stunned]

Or maybe raise our children and future generation with a moral compass.
jmo

Thank you, there were so many ways to respond to this post. I didn’t want to get deleted so I was gonna stay silent. Then you came up with this response. This fits.

 

[Stunned]

True, but it's hard to do even that when "influencers" in business, government, etc. are or were part of that subculture. People are free to do what they want in the privacy of their own home, but they shouldn't be venerated or elevated to positions of authority. They shouldn't be held up as role models for young people, promoting their sordid backgrounds and making them seem trendy, like "liberated", edgy people.

And yet....here we are.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Thank you, there were so many ways to respond to this post. I didn’t want to get deleted so I was gonna stay silent. Then you came up with this response. This fits.

It’s a slippery slope

 

[Stunned]

It’s a slippery slope

Yes it is.

 

[Betty P]

It does

Really? Sorry to hear that, if it's the case. Not that they would have an easy time getting information out of him. I keep thinking back, though, to all the evidence/data, etc. they recently retrieved from the raid on Epstein's mansion in Manhattan. JMO, there will be a treasure trove of new info and evidence there that people like Dershowitz can't hide.

Come to think of it, I wonder if any of the new evidence recently seized from the mansion did more to put Epstein in danger. Maybe its not about all the evidence from 2005 to 2010 or whatever. There might be much more evidence from the recent raid, including different types of criminal activity, and a bigger rogue's gallery of accomplices and victims.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Does anyone know if attorney/client privilege still applies if the client is dead?

I'm thinking of Dershowitz.

Found this but we may need a verified attorney to weigh in.
"The privilege generally stays in effect even after the attorney-client relationship ends, and even after the client dies. In other words, the lawyer can never divulge the client’s secrets without the client’s permission, unless some kind of exception (see below) applies. (United States v. White, 970 F.2d 328 (7th Cir. 1992); Swidler & Berlin v. United States, 524 U.S. 399 (1998).)"
The Attorney-Client Privilege

 

[Gardenista]

I can't wait to see his will

 

[Betty P]

The only reason we haven't legalized it, is b/c they can't figure out a way to tax the folks working on their own, yet. Look at the industry. They're having sex for pay... That won't take away folks like Epstein though, who have other proclivities.

Eh, they can work out the tax and regulation thing. Its worked ok so far with legalized gambling. You won't wipe out all of the illegal stuff, but most.

Most important is to have greater prevention out there to keep young girls (and probably boys) from getting recruited into these things.