NY - Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking charges, 6 July 2019

[IzzyBlanche]

One last thing for tonight.

Considering what is coming out about Epstein's threats to his victims and his MO, Katie Johnson's story becomes much more believable, and her reasons for dropping the lawsuit much more understandable.

May all his victims have justice.

 

[Lilibet]

One last thing for tonight.

Considering what is coming out about Epstein's threats to his victims and his MO, Katie Johnson's story becomes much more believable, and her reasons for dropping the lawsuit much more understandable.

I agree. I watched Katie Johnson’s video interview last night. Although from doing a little research I think it’s possible that some questionable people were using her at the beginning, once she got an attorney and filed in NY, I think she had a chance. She even had an affidavit from her recruiter Tiffany who was a witness. So yes, I found her accounts very believable. And appalling and disgusting...but unfortunately not really surprising. I’m sorry she dropped her lawsuit. I hope NY is looking into her accusations.
JMO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I agree. I watched Katie Johnson’s video interview last night. Although from doing a little research I think it’s possible that some questionable people were using her at the beginning, once she got an attorney and filed in NY, I think she had a chance. She even had an affidavit from her recruiter Tiffany who was a witness. So yes, I found her accounts very believable. And appalling and disgusting...but unfortunately not really surprising. I’m sorry she dropped her lawsuit. I hope NY is looking into her accusations.
JMO

I wonder why Tiffany Doe chose the pseudonym Tiffany. Probably just a weird coincidence.

 

[Betty P]

I've been reading online for hours about Epstein. And I'm convinced his $ came from blackmailing rich and powerful men who shared his depraved proclivities.

I think some didn't mind being "blackmailed". They may have been happy to pay him for a unique service they sought. He protected them, too. I also agree with some that he may have been involved with some money laundering as well, using his offshore business and bank accounts. Very lucrative trade. All JMO

 

[JerseyGirl]

Jeffrey Epstein's bail hearing today will determine how he spends his time until trial - CNN

 

[Rigatoni999]

What time is the bail hearing today and will it be televised?

 

[HotDog]

So in January a new law was passed in New York - I'm thinking some new victims came forward or will contine to come forward whereas in contrast to the past they weren't able to. Pretty big change in the law.

January 28, 2019: (excerpt from CNN article) BBM
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"The Child Victims Act will allow child victims to seek prosecution against their abuser until the age of 55 in civil cases, a significant increase from the previous limit of age 23. For criminal cases, victims can seek prosecution until they turn 28. The bill also includes a one-year window during which victims of any age or time limit can come forward to prosecute.
"New York has just gone from being one of the worst states in the country to being one of the best," in terms of the statute of limitations for child sex abuse cases, said Marci Hamilton, CEO of Child USA and a professor at the University of Pennsylvania.""
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LINK:
New York passes Child Victims Act, allowing child sex abuse survivors to sue their abusers - CNN

They Were Sexually Abused Long Ago as Children. Now They Can Sue in N.Y.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Do we know the name of the woman who lured some of the children into JEs trap?

Was there more than one female involved?

Tia

Imo

 

[Rigatoni999]

Good point! So, for the most serious felonies, no change in law, but mid and lower level, this is a change. Not sure how this will impact on Epstein, as most of what I understand is rape of underage girls, which would be most serious, I presume. Also, this "look back period" will not go into effect until August 14, a month away. Should see a bunch of "mid and lower level" cases filed then.

"Before the new law, the most serious felony sexual crimes against children already had no statute of limitations.
But mid- and lower-level felonies had a five-year statute of limitations, which kicks in when the victim turns 18.
Now the statute of limitations will be based on age, not length of time since the allegations.
And with the look-back period now opened up, lawyers and victims are planning to come forward with their stories -- and sue.
The look-back period will open six months from now and remain open for a year. So it opens Aug. 14."

Child Victims Act: Four things to know about important new law in New York

This is the sad/repugnant part to me:

Republicans controlled the state Senate for the past decade and blocked the measure, even as it repeatedly passed the Democratic-led Assembly.
But with Democrats winning control of the Senate at the polls last November, the whole dynamic changed.
The state Catholic Conference, knowing the bill was likely to pass this year, dropped its opposition last month after it got the Legislature to back language that makes sure public institutions can also be sued during the one-year look-back period.
"We therefore remove our previous opposition and pray that survivors find the healing they so desperately deserve," the Catholic Conference tweeted. The result? Unanimous approval in the Senate on Jan. 28, and a 142-3 vote in the Assembly.

 

[sds71]

Do we know the name of the woman who lured some of the children into JEs trap?

Was there more than one female involved?

Tia

Imo

Sarah Kellen Vickers andGhislaine Maxwell Are two of them
I forget the other ones. I’ll look it up
Nadia Marcinkova

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html#storylink=cpy

 

[HotDog]

Good point! So, for the most serious felonies, no change in law, but mid and lower level, this is a change. Not sure how this will impact on Epstein, as most of what I understand is rape of underage girls, which would be most serious, I presume. Also, this "look back period" will not go into effect until August 14, a month away. Should see a bunch of "mid and lower level" cases filed then.

"Before the new law, the most serious felony sexual crimes against children already had no statute of limitations.
But mid- and lower-level felonies had a five-year statute of limitations, which kicks in when the victim turns 18.
Now the statute of limitations will be based on age, not length of time since the allegations.
And with the look-back period now opened up, lawyers and victims are planning to come forward with their stories -- and sue.
The look-back period will open six months from now and remain open for a year. So it opens Aug. 14."

Child Victims Act: Four things to know about important new law in New York

Those nuances re: the law went over my head! Thank you! OK so what I'm understanding is that the most serious felony sexual crimes against children already had no statute of limitations so that's why no change now, right? I'm not familiar enough with the legal definitions so to me it seems like it would have an impact on the JE case (New York at least). I also understood this to be about civil, not criminal. Again - I am not a lawyer and do not work in legal profession so all of this is my layperson interpretation!

I hadn't caught the part about the look back period starting Aug 14- but now that you've pointed it, it will definitely be interesting to see what happens after that date!

It's bonkers to me that New York was one of the most restrictive in the nation with respect to this issue given that it's generally considered to be a liberal state. Maybe some reporter will write up an article on the history/timeline of when that law/statute was put on the books and who was involved. Imagine if there were a nexus to any of the power players in this case!

JMO and musings.

 

[HotDog]

Do we know the name of the woman who lured some of the children into JEs trap?

Not all of the identities of the recruiters are known - a victim who came forward this week (the one who did an interview that aired on the Today show, Jenifer Aaroz ) filed papers with the court requesting JE provide info as to the identity of the woman who was her "recruiter."

My reading of the information was that the victim did not know the woman's identity (but I could be wrong - I am not a legal expert). The victim said the woman befriended her outside her school shortly after the victim's father had died from complications related to AIDS.

JMO

 

[HotDog]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...rtune-may-be-up-grabs/?utm_term=.caa9609cdd71

Is there a victim who has come forward who lives in Utah? Wondering if I had missed that info.

Relevant snippet from article:

"......said Paul Cassell, a University of Utah law professor, a former federal judge and a lawyer for one of Epstein’s alleged victims."

 

[sds71]

Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) | Twitter
Epstein has taken his seat

 

[sds71]

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   SDNY US Attorney Geoffrey Berman is in the courtroom for Jeffrey Epstein’s bail hearing. The chief and deputy chief of the public corruption unit are also here.
   

 

[sds71]

Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) | Twitter
Berman notes that pretrial services reports have been filed with him, an initial report and another filed today. It says: "There is no condition or combination of conditions that will reasonably assure the appearance of defendant as required and the safety of the community."
The report, which like other pretrial services reports, is not public, recommends that Epstein remains detained. Berman says he won't rule today, but he will decide on Thursday, July 18.

 

[sds71]

@klasfeldreports
Berman adds that several victims are in court and can be heard "if they wish to be heard."

 

[sds71]

Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) | Twitter
Berman's seeking more information about proceedings in the various states and jurisdictions related to Epstein's sex-offender status.
Berman said he allowed Epstein to file financial information under seal so as not to slow down proceedings, but he describes that information as "cursory" and suffers from an "absence of detail." Berman: "I am inclined to place the summary on the docket." He'll hear args on it.

 

[sds71]

Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) | Twitter
Berman moves onto alleged witness tampering and obstruction of justice on the recent payments.
He wants to know what add'l insights into this episode they can share. "I reserve the right to have more questions," Berman says.

 

[sds71]

Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) | Twitter
AUSA Alex Rossmiller for the govt, talking about the "extraordinary risk of flight" and the danger to the community. He joins with pre-trial services recommendation and request of the victims.
Rossmiller has many questions about Epstein's finances before beginning to consider bail application. "How much money does he have? Where is it?... How much of it is in diamonds or art?" Also, what accounts and more.
Rossmiller: "Many individuals identifying themselves as victims and witnesses" have come forward and prosecutors have been able to "dramatically expand" the scope of their investigation. No estimate of the number of new accusers.