NY - Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein arrested, sex trafficking, 6 July 2019 *FOUND DECEASED IN JAIL 10 Aug 2019* #4

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I recall years ago that Katie Curic was at a dinner at Epstein's house in Manhattan. I wish she would speak candidly about her impressions of him. (Maybe she has and I just don't know.)

Melinda was very clear that she found Epstein horrible. I appreciate that, but as a woman of extreme wealth who wasn't in a vulnerable position, I do wish there had been a way for her to expose more. Perhaps she did behind the scenes, I don't know.

I am not faulting Melinda for anything and appreciate her careful words here, but wish the blunt and clear truth could be told instead of tangles of cryptic hints. "He was abhorrent" doesn't mean much, really.

jmopinion
 
  • #462
I recall years ago that Katie Curic was at a dinner at Epstein's house in Manhattan. I wish she would speak candidly about her impressions of him. (Maybe she has and I just don't know.)

Melinda was very clear that she found Epstein horrible. I appreciate that, but as a woman of extreme wealth who wasn't in a vulnerable position, I do wish there had been a way for her to expose more. Perhaps she did behind the scenes, I don't know.

I am not faulting Melinda for anything and appreciate her careful words here, but wish the blunt and clear truth could be told instead of tangles of cryptic hints. "He was abhorrent" doesn't mean much, really.

jmopinion
The challenge I'm finding is I can't believe anything anyone says in public anymore. Those who condemn him vigorously, so often turn out to have been fawning over him back when.

Show me one email where someone told JE that they knew and disapproved of his power dynamic with young women, or warned him of future consequences, or tried to talk one of the girls into going back to their family, etc.

JMO
 
  • #463
The challenge I'm finding is I can't believe anything anyone says in public anymore. Those who condemn him vigorously, so often turn out to have been fawning over him back when.

Show me one email where someone told JE that they knew and disapproved of his power dynamic with young women, or warned him of future consequences, or tried to talk one of the girls into going back to their family, etc.

JMO
The people who would have sent him those type of email's should have reported him to LE if they felt so strongly, they didn't. That doesn't look good on them either. IMO
 
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Epstein's financial documents/trust and
Karyna Shuliak

 
  • #466
Why was JE's phone call not recorded?

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'Shuliak, a dentist, is the largest beneficiary of The 1953 Trust. She is the last person outside of the Manhattan Correctional Center known to have spoken to Epstein. He spent 20 minutes in an unrecorded phone call with her the evening before his death, according to Bureau of Prisons records. Shuliak didn't respond to Business Insider's requests for comment.'

 
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Melinda was very clear that she found Epstein horrible. I appreciate that, but as a woman of extreme wealth who wasn't in a vulnerable position, I do wish there had been a way for her to expose more. Perhaps she did behind the scenes, I don't know.

I am not faulting Melinda for anything and appreciate her careful words here, but wish the blunt and clear truth could be told instead of tangles of cryptic hints. "He was abhorrent" doesn't mean much, really.

jmopinion
I don't know when Melinda French Gates made her comments, if it was while Epstein was alive or not, but if it was about saying something negative about him while he was alive, I wouldn't say that could not have had negative results for her.

You can take for example what happened when Finnish Linda Lampenius, (known as Linda Brava in the US), made a comment about Peter Nygård's behaviour in a Finnish newspaper. Nygård was probably one of Epstein's cronies, with a similar attitude when it came to young women. There's thread about him on WS.
This is what happened to Linda Lampenius, being sued for defamation.
 
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Norwegian Royal Family dealing with Epstein link, rape trial and other ‘stuff’.



I know it’s not Andrew but it’s his cousins wife, IIRC

Mette-Marit will be the next Queen of Norway and is mother to two of the people in the line of succession. Plus the man on trial, her son from previous relationship.
 
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An agreement between the Justice Dept. and multiple Epstein survivors following the government’s failure to properly redact personal information appears to have fallen apart, days after multiple victims were identifiable in documents released last week.

 
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An agreement between the Justice Dept. and multiple Epstein survivors following the government’s failure to properly redact personal information appears to have fallen apart, days after multiple victims were identifiable in documents released last week.

I will never believe it was an accident or ineptitude that the victim names were not properly redacted.

jmopinion
 
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Norwegian Royal Family dealing with Epstein link, rape trial and other ‘stuff’.



I know it’s not Andrew but it’s his cousins wife, IIRC

Mette-Marit will be the next Queen of Norway and is mother to two of the people in the line of succession. Plus the man on trial, her son from previous relationship.
No, they are third cousins, as they share great-great grandparents, King Edward VII and Queen Alexandra of the United Kingdom. The British royal family have very little social contact with their European royal relatives, usually only at weddings and funerals. How much contact do you have with your third cousins?

As for Mette-Marit becoming the next queen of Norway or not, well, that depends on the backlash on her because of the Epstein affair, her oldest son's trial, but also if she can get a lung transplant in time before it's too late (she has severe pulmonary fibrosis).
 
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"I am sorry, sorry for what was done to you, sorry that so many people with power failed you, sorry for having believed Mandelson's lies and appointing him"PM Keir Starmer issues apology to victims of Jeffrey Epstein, adding "we will pursue the truth"https://bbc.in/4c9eBEW
 
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"I am sorry, sorry for what was done to you, sorry that so many people with power failed you, sorry for having believed Mandelson's lies and appointing him"PM Keir Starmer issues apology to victims of Jeffrey Epstein, adding "we will pursue the truth"https://bbc.in/4c9eBEW
Not good enough, imo.

"Pursue the truth." What does that even mean? (Nothing, imo.)

jmo
 
  • #477
"I am sorry, sorry for what was done to you, sorry that so many people with power failed you, sorry for having believed Mandelson's lies and appointing him"PM Keir Starmer issues apology to victims of Jeffrey Epstein, adding "we will pursue the truth"https://bbc.in/4c9eBEW
Well, given that Mandelson had already been sacked from the cabinet twice during his career for dodgy stuff and was nicknamed "The Prince of Darkness", you might think that the PM should have cottoned on to the fact that you shouldn't take everything Peter Mandelson says at face value!
 
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"Did you know somewhere in the hills outside the Zorro, two foreign girls were buried on orders of Jeffrey and Madam G? Both died by strangulation during rough, fetish sex.'"

Which reads like the sender had heard this information from somebody else, rather than witnessing it himself. How much credence should we give this sort of hearsay, especially as it seems the sender was being paid for the info?
 
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"Did you know somewhere in the hills outside the Zorro, two foreign girls were buried on orders of Jeffrey and Madam G? Both died by strangulation during rough, fetish sex.'"

Which reads like the sender had heard this information from somebody else, rather than witnessing it himself. How much credence should we give this sort of hearsay, especially as it seems the sender was being paid for the info?
Why didn’t the FBI raid Zorro Ranch?
 

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