NY - Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein arrested, sex trafficking, 6 July 2019 *FOUND DECEASED IN JAIL* #4

[tarabull]

Trump says he ended friendship with Epstein because he 'stole people that worked for me' - World News

President Donald Trump said Monday that he ended his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and threw the now-disgraced financier out of his private club in Florida after Epstein betrayed him more than once by hiring people who had worked for him.

www.castanet.net

 

[Betty P]

Trump says he ended friendship with Epstein because he 'stole people that worked for me' - World News

President Donald Trump said Monday that he ended his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and threw the now-disgraced financier out of his private club in Florida after Epstein betrayed him more than once by hiring people who had worked for him.

www.castanet.net

In a way that’s partly true. Epstein and Maxwell recruited teen girls from Mar a Lago.

Virginia Giuffre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It’s believed Trump and Epstein were more like partners in the sex trafficking business.

 

[sds71]

Trump says Epstein ‘stole’ victim Virginia Giuffre from Mar-a-Lago

President tells reporters he cut off contact with Epstein because he was poaching employees from his club

www.independent.co.uk

Trump: People were taken out of the spa, hired by Epstein… I told him we don’t want you taking our people, whether it’s spa or not spa. He did it again, I said out of here. Reporter: Was one of the stolen people Virginia Giuffre?Trump: I think so. He stole her.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1950256617301430443

 

[Inthedetails]

dbm. nevermind

 

[Lilibet]

Maxwell wants immunity or pardon before testifying.

Ghislaine Maxwell wants immunity or a pardon before congressional deposition

Ghislaine Maxwell's deposition is scheduled for Aug. 11 at a federal prison in Tallahassee, where she is serving her sentence.

www.cbsnews.com

Washington — Ghislaine Maxwell, who was convicted of aiding sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, is willing to provide information to a congressional committee next month during a deposition but only if she is granted immunity or is pardoned, according to a letter from her attorney obtained by CBS News.
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A spokesperson for the House Oversight Committee said in a statement that the committee will respond to Markus' letter "soon," but said it "will not consider granting congressional immunity for her testimony."

 

[Deleted member 367982]

Before committing suicide, Virginia Giuffre lived in the same city as me in Australia. Hardly anything was said about her in the local news, even though the US president says he knows her.
Where are the other girls who were trafficked by these perverted men and why did they let Virginia basically be the sole advocate against sex trafficking.
You wouldn't want to rely on the word of Maxwell, pardon or not, to tell the world what happened inside the Epstein sex trade.
All I can say is the people who voted for Trump and have now lost their jobs or will suffer from the medical system underfunding deserve it.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Opinion | I Covered the Epstein Case for Decades. These Are 9 Questions We Actually Need Answered.

You needn’t be a conspiracy theorist to have questions.

www.nytimes.com

"I Covered the Epstein Case for Decades. These Are 9 Questions We Actually Need Answered."

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

CBS News investigation of Jeffrey Epstein jail video reveals new discrepancies

A CBS News investigation found discrepancies between the government's description of the Jeffrey Epstein jail video and what the video shows.

www.cbsnews.com

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7532601932179868942

 

[tarabull]

Virginia Giuffre’s Family Responds to Trump’s Claim That Epstein ‘Stole’ Her

President Trump’s remarks raised questions about his knowledge of the crimes committed by Jeffrey Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell, the family said in a statement.

www.nytimes.com

 

[zleuther]

hat tip to @sds71 above and fwiw Ima have to catchup with the thread, but video of same ICYMI...

...and also re an old thread cue to 27:27

 

[tarabull]

VIDEO:
Family of Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre wants files released

 

[sds71]

From @JasonLeopold
— the longtime head of FOIA at the FBI was ousted over how he handled the Epstein files

"An FBI [Freedom of Information Act] team redacted Trump's name—and the names of other prominent public figures—from the documents, according to three people familiar with the matter.

In preparation for potential public release, the documents then went to a unit of FOIA officers who applied redactions in accordance with the nine exemptions. The people familiar with the matter said that Trump’s name, along with other high-profile individuals, was blacked out because he was a private citizen when the federal investigation of Epstein was launched in 2006.

"https://bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-08-01/epstein-files-trump-s-name-was-redacted-by-the-fbi

 

[zleuther]

Re sleuthing, the Epstein Case seems to have a lot to do with TIME.

(One example, public perception of those who socialized with Epstein is highly dependent on WHEN, before or after he became a registered offender, etc)

Brainstorming now, what can we learn about (even random) people based on a point in time: the day Maxwell lured Giuffre from Trump's spa?

My opinion is that was Fall 2000. The first two I list apropos of nothing would become friends later.

Ivanka: attended Georgetown University from 2000 to 2002
Chelsea: Stanford California dormitory
WJC: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
Trump: dunno cuz most of the WWE and Howard Stern cameos were 90s
Kylie Bax: Sports Illustrated model in attached pic*
Giuffre: father helping her escape foster care or homelessness
Epstein and Maxwell: committing crimes
Vote counters: examining Florida hanging chads with...?
Bush and Gore: see above

September 2000 US Open Tennis NYC
* all above is my opinion (maybe Bax was with someone who didn't wanna be in the pic, or maybe was kinda shunned from the pic, more likely just casual and meaningless like this entire post)

...but I do think it's interesting to wonder exactly what day in Fall 2000 the crimes against Giuffre began

 

[Inthedetails]

Re sleuthing, the Epstein Case seems to have a lot to do with TIME.

(One example, public perception of those who socialized with Epstein is highly dependent on WHEN, before or after he became a registered offender, etc)

Brainstorming now, what can we learn about (even random) people based on a point in time: the day Maxwell lured Giuffre from Trump's spa?

My opinion is that was Fall 2000. The first two I list apropos of nothing would become friends later.

Ivanka: attended Georgetown University from 2000 to 2002
Chelsea: Stanford California dormitory
WJC: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
Trump: dunno cuz most of the WWE and Howard Stern cameos were 90s
Kylie Bax: Sports Illustrated model in attached pic*
Giuffre: father helping her escape foster care or homelessness
Epstein and Maxwell: committing crimes
Vote counters: examining Florida hanging chads with...?
Bush and Gore: see above

September 2000 US Open Tennis NYC
* all above is my opinion (maybe Bax was with someone who didn't wanna be in the pic, or maybe was kinda shunned from the pic, more likely just casual and meaningless like this entire post)

...but I do think it's interesting to wonder exactly what day in Fall 2000 the crimes against Giuffre began

Gotta admit, I didn't expect Hanging Chads to enter the chat.

jmo

 

[zleuther]

Broadly, Justice does not wish harm to the perps.

 

[Bounceycat]

Did anyone else involved besides Giuffre work at Mar-A-Lago?

Trump has said Epstein stole employees - plural. Giuffre is the only one he's named individually.

Trump: Epstein ‘stole’ young female employees from Mar-a-Lago

President Trump revealed more about his abrupt falling out with Jeffrey Epstein two decades ago. He said he ended their friendship after Epstein hired away young female employees from his Mar-a-Lago club. NBC News’ Kelly O’Donnell reports.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Trump has said Epstein stole employees - plural. Giuffre is the only one he's named individually.

Trump: Epstein ‘stole’ young female employees from Mar-a-Lago

President Trump revealed more about his abrupt falling out with Jeffrey Epstein two decades ago. He said he ended their friendship after Epstein hired away young female employees from his Mar-a-Lago club. NBC News’ Kelly O’Donnell reports.

www.nbcnews.com

Yes, that's what Trump says, but has it ever been reported elsewhere?

 

[Bounceycat]

When was the real estate conflict between DT and JE?

2004. Three years before Epstein's membership privileges were revoked.

Timeline of Trump and Epstein's relationship, and what Trump has said about their falling out

A timeline of Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's relationship, as the president faces questions on his admin's handling of files related to the accused sex trafficker.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Bounceycat]

Yes, that's what Trump says, but has it ever been reported elsewhere?

In the Giuffre lawsuit.

 

[mzmarymac]

Timeline of Trump and Epstein's relationship, and what Trump has said about their falling out

A timeline of Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's relationship, as the president faces questions on his admin's handling of files related to the accused sex trafficker.

abcnews.go.com

This link has a timeline with sources. As for the opposition party not doing anything - my personal opinion is that members of both parties are on the list so sitting Dem presidents didn't want to open that can of worms. It all needs to come out. No matter what party the criminals are members of. JMO.

Agreed it needs to come out however....we need to be extremely careful of protecting innocent victims, and names associated with the case who may have zero knowledge or guilt in the case, allowing the internet to just fly with stuff for anyone listed.

There were a LOT of people who went to Diddy's parties and they aren't all pedos and rapists are they?