NY - Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein arrested, sex trafficking, 6 July 2019 *FOUND DECEASED IN JAIL* #4

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When people change their story, usually there's a reason. To say nothing of a Defense Attorney creating the appearance of inducing the perp to change their story.
 
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AFAIK the most precise estimate of the day the crimes against Guiffre began...

"Ms. Giuffre was sixteen years old before August 9, 2000, and turned seventeen on that date. It is unclear from the limited records available whether [Maxwell] approached and recruited Ms. Giuffre before or just after Ms. Giuffre’s 17th birthday."

...per https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Giuffre-unseal.pdf

And fwiw her employment record wage is roughly 40 x 40 so an 8-hour day of $5/hr wage would mean she didn't work there long at all, say 40 workdays.
 
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When was the real estate conflict between DT and JE?

tia
 
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The source of the Flight Logs is Gawker (dunno if approved, secondarily...LMK)
Was.
Gawker stopped existing after Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel won a lawsuit, so of course Gawker had all the significant Epstein info the truth is stranger than fiction...

Epstein and Maxwell were committing crimes every day. We know this cuz one of the ways they tried to make it seem normal (???!!!) was for Maxwell to tell the victim they always needed new masseuses cuz he needed at least three per day. Point being with these two we already know the when, just not the where.

If ya wanted to guess when Epstein and Maxwell were in Palm Beach, follow the plane in and out of PBI...

2020
Jun 30 - Jul 3
Jul 14 - 19 (Maxwell not listed tho)
unk date after Aug 3 - Aug 21
Aug 31 - Sep 6 (Maxwell not listed tho)
Sep 9 - 10
Sep 30 - Oct 3
Oct 5 - 10
 
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In his office, the images show a taxidermied tiger and reportedly show a green first edition copy of Lolita – the controversial 1955 novel about a middle-aged man’s sexual obsession with and sexual abuse and rape of a 12-year-old girl – which the Times said was “showcased”.




 
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Folks, don't ever let Woody Allen write you a thank you letter!

What's everybody's thoughts on the Friday transfer of Maxwell from an actual prison to a Club Fed? It seems to me that Trump speaks and his team does...things that would only make sense if he was involved in the crimes. What other purpose, what innocent purpose, could there be?

My opinion is, this looks like a horrible nightmare that HAPPENED BEFORE, all over again...
"That secret agreement, conducted without consulting the victims, was later ruled illegal by a federal judge..."
 
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The House Oversight Committee has subpoenaed the Department of Justice for records related to its investigation of convicted sex-offender Jeffrey Epstein and his longtime associate Ghislaine Maxwell.

The subpoena, one of 11 formally issued on Tuesday, calls for "all documents and communications relating or referring to" Epstein and Maxwell, including information contained in their respective court cases, by August 19. It came nearly two weeks after Republicans on one of the panel's subcommittees joined with Democrats and voted to direct committee chair James Comer, R-Ky., to subpoena the DOJ.

"While the Department undertakes efforts to uncover and publicly disclose additional information related to Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell's cases, it is imperative that Congress conduct oversight of the federal government's enforcement of sex trafficking laws generally and specifically its handling of the investigation and prosecution of Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell," Comer said in a cover letter addressed to Attorney General Pam Bondi.
 
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Re sleuthing, the Epstein Case seems to have a lot to do with TIME.

(One example, public perception of those who socialized with Epstein is highly dependent on WHEN, before or after he became a registered offender, etc)

Brainstorming now, what can we learn about (even random) people based on a point in time: the day Maxwell lured Giuffre from Trump's spa?

My opinion is that was Fall 2000. The first two I list apropos of nothing would become friends later.

Ivanka: attended Georgetown University from 2000 to 2002
Chelsea: Stanford California dormitory
WJC: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
Trump: dunno cuz most of the WWE and Howard Stern cameos were 90s
Kylie Bax: Sports Illustrated model in attached pic*
Giuffre: father helping her escape foster care or homelessness
Epstein and Maxwell: committing crimes
Vote counters: examining Florida hanging chads with...?
Bush and Gore: see above

500px-Bill_Clinton_and_Donald_Trump_at_the_U.S._Open_in_2000%2C_Flushing_Meadows%E2%80%93Corona_Park.jpg

September 2000 US Open Tennis NYC
* all above is my opinion (maybe Bax was with someone who didn't wanna be in the pic, or maybe was kinda shunned from the pic, more likely just casual and meaningless like this entire post)

...but I do think it's interesting to wonder exactly what day in Fall 2000 the crimes against Giuffre began
who is the woman who is not Milania in this photo?
 
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dbm. I think I had wrong info.
 
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What's the likelihood Ivanka had once introduced herself to Giuffre, say at Mar-a-Lago? Not much age difference fwiw (Oct 81 / Aug 83)
 
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“How can any genuine investigation into the federal government’s sweetheart deal with Epstein (including the extraordinary grant of blanket immunity to all his named and unnamed co-conspirators) omit Alex Acosta?” Epstein victim attorney Jack Scarola asked in a statement to NBC News.

Brittany Henderson, another Epstein victim attorney, said, “Anyone familiar with the history of litigation related to Jeffrey Epstein knows from our decade long fight to enforce the Crimes Victims Rights Act that Alex Acosta is an important person to subpoena in any quest for the truth.”

 
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My expertise is seeing what's missing.

Prolly something simple, but why is US Attorney General Michael Mukasey missing from the subpoenas? @sds71 discusses Acosta missing which is consistent with an ongoing Cover Up.

I keep wondering why is there an ongoing Cover Up???!!!

But the fact that Mukasey is missing is rather glaring cuz all ya gotta do is make a list, sort it chronologically, and see for yourself.

Past confirmed US Attorneys General...
Garland
Barr
Sessions
Lynch
Holder
Mukasey
Gonzales
...oops, they subpoenaed all but one and it's the one who Acosta reported to.
 

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