NY - Captured, escaped convicted killers, David Sweat & Richard Matt, Dannemora #8

[Jasper52]

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[Greater Than]

Anyone else think it's a possibility that LE has not told Sweat that Matt is dead, but rather that they captured him too and that he's talking? Investigators use strategies of putting two suspects in different rooms and go back and forth to them saying the other is saying such and such in an attempt to get info out of them.

I'm just wondering if it's a possibility that LE told Sweat that Matt is claiming the plan was to go to Mexico and Sweat said yeah, that was the plan.

 

[Nana]

TY !! That pic' of Matt is gruesome, and so are the ones of Sweat - like a hunter holding up their prey........... like ISIS !!!!!!!!!! (btw - the pic' of Sweat with the O2 mask on..... omg - we're told he was shot 2X in the back --- it SURE looks like an exit wound we see.....................................oh Lord, so near his heart !!!!!!)

WHAT THE HE@@ IS GOING IN NEW YORK THAT YOU NEW YORKERS PUBLICIZE PICTURES LIKE THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ????????????????????

HERE IN MINNESOTA, PO PO WOULD ALL GET FIRED IF THEY EVER DID SUCH THINGS --- NEW YORK STATE SOUNDS LIKE AN AWFUL PLACE IMO !!!!!!!!!!!

Really?!
I am offended that you refer to LE as po po
JMO

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

Sweat actually said they were going to kill her husband.

I don't understand WHY?
WHY kill him? Just take the wifey, the car and GO FAR FAR AWAY!!!!
WHY kill the husband?
Does anyone understand that?

(Did Joyce WANT her husband killed and mentioned it to the team of S&M?)

 

[LaneGirl]

Anyone else think it's a possibility that LE has not told Sweat that Matt is dead, but rather that they captured him too and that he's talking? Investigators use strategies of putting two suspects in different rooms and go back and forth to them saying the other is saying such and such in an attempt to get info out of them.

I'm just wondering if it's a possibility that LE told Sweat that Matt is claiming the plan was to go to Mexico and Sweat said yeah, that was the plan.

Its possible IF he didn't have a cell phone or access to TV etc while he was out there. One of the cabins I saw had a satellite so I'm thinking they might have had access to the news but I'm sure LE know what access they had for sure by cabin owners and what was found on them.

 

[musicaljoke]

TY !! That pic' of Matt is gruesome, and so are the ones of Sweat - like a hunter holding up their prey........... like ISIS !!!!!!!!!! (btw - the pic' of Sweat with the O2 mask on..... omg - we're told he was shot 2X in the back --- it SURE looks like an exit wound we see.....................................oh Lord, so near his heart !!!!!!)

WHAT THE HE@@ IS GOING IN NEW YORK THAT YOU NEW YORKERS PUBLICIZE PICTURES LIKE THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ????????????????????

HERE IN MINNESOTA, PO PO WOULD ALL GET FIRED IF THEY EVER DID SUCH THINGS --- NEW YORK STATE SOUNDS LIKE AN AWFUL PLACE IMO !!!!!!!!!!!

Mary, you're gonna wake up the baby with all your bold print and caps!

 

[LaneGirl]

Sweat actually said they were going to kill her husband.

I don't understand WHY?
WHY kill him? Just take the wifey, the car and GO FAR FAR AWAY!!!!
WHY kill the husband?
Does anyone understand that?

(Did Joyce WANT her husband killed and mentioned it to the team of S&M?)

There could only be these possibilities:
1. He knows more than letting on.
2. He would know the minute she didn't come home that she was in on it.
3. She wanted him gone.

Am I missing anything?

 

[Greater Than]

Sweat actually said they were going to kill her husband.

I don't understand WHY?
WHY kill him? Just take the wifey, the car and GO FAR FAR AWAY!!!!
WHY kill the husband?
Does anyone understand that?

(Did Joyce WANT her husband killed and mentioned it to the team of S&M?)

IMO yes.

 

[epiphany]

CNN Live:

"Sources" tell CNN that Sweat is spilling all info to LE


Flashback, that's exactly what Tillie did!

 

[Marah]

I cannot find the pic of Matt help

 

[MinnesotaMary]

Sweat actually said they were going to kill her husband.

I don't understand WHY?
WHY kill him? Just take the wifey, the car and GO FAR FAR AWAY!!!!
WHY kill the husband?
Does anyone understand that?
(Did Joyce WANT her husband killed and mentioned it to the team of S&M?)

BRILLIANT !!!!!! I never, ever thought of that !!!!! Makes COMPLETE SENSE IMO that Tillie would want hubby to tap (that's slang for die, like po po is slang for police....) LIFE INSURANCE MONEY (Here in MN right now we have the kerazy father Pierre Collins on trial for murder of his 10 y old son - - the unemployed Pierre Collins PAID FOR ONGOING $30K life insurance on the little boy, and two days prior to allegedly banging his little one in the back of the head and tying the innocent child up and pitching the child into a drainage container set inside the Mississippi River ((the drainage container literally sits in the River, at the shoreline -- this is Minneapolis area...)) Pierre Collins got on the phone asking to buy $20K MORE life ins. on the child, was denied, so Pierre Collins then PAYS FOR a new, $20K SECOND life ins. policy on the child, for a total of $50K life ins. on this little one ------------- unbeknownst to 'brilliant' Pierre Collins, THE INSURANCE COS. RECORDS ALL CALLS !!) !!!!!!!!!!!! I can sure envision Tillie having brain power similar to that of Pierre Collins !

 

[osu]

There could only be these possibilities:
1. He knows more than letting on.
2. He would know the minute she didn't come home that she was in on it.
3. She wanted him gone.

Am I missing anything?

Maybe Tillie needed Lyle to drive her to pick them up at the manhole and then they planned to kill him afterward?

I'm not sure how exactly how she thought she would accomplish this, but according to Lyle's interview it sure doesn't sound like she drove much or went anywhere without him. Unless he's lying too?

 

[Greater Than]

It appears Sweat is confirming much of the speculation that has swirled around him and Richard Matt's escape.

Most notably, that they had no back-up plan to get out of Dannemora once they escaped from the Clinton Correctional Facility there.

[...]

Sweat suffered two bullet wounds when he was shot while trying to escape from State Police Sergeant Jay Cook Sunday in Franklin County. He has been upgraded to "serious" condition, and did not require surgery after receiving medical care overnight.

According to the governor, Sweat partnered with Richard Matt for the majority of their time on-the-run from law enforcement, but the two had parted ways by the end.

http://www.twcnews.com/nys/capital-region/news/2015/06/29/sweat-and-matt.html

BBM - This is why I don't believe anything Sweat is telling them. There is no way they were that prepared with supplies and cabin maps if their only plan was to go to Mexico.

 

[epiphany]

BRILLIANT !!!!!! I never, ever thought of that !!!!! Makes COMPLETE SENSE IMO that Tillie would want hubby to tap (that's slang for die, like po po is slang for police....) LIFE INSURANCE MONEY (Here in MN right now we have the kerazy father Pierre Collins on trial for murder of his 10 y old son - - the unemployed Pierre Collins PAID FOR ONGOING $30K life insurance on the little boy, and two days prior to allegedly banging his little one in the back of the head and tying the innocent child up and pitching the child into a drainage container set inside the Mississippi River ((the drainage container literally sits in the River, at the shoreline -- this is Minneapolis area...)) Pierre Collins got on the phone asking to buy $20K MORE life ins. on the child, was denied, so Pierre Collins then PAYS FOR a new, $20K SECOND life ins. policy on the child, for a total of $50K life ins. on this little one ------------- unbeknownst to 'brilliant' Pierre Collins, THE INSURANCE COS. RECORDS ALL CALLS !!) !!!!!!!!!!!! I can sure envision Tillie having brain power similar to that of Pierre Collins !

How would Miss Tillie plan on collecting said insurance if she and the boys had plans to go south of the border? Not to mention, all 3 would be the primary suspects in husband's murder

 

[human]

Tillie could set it up so that it looks like her beloved hubby is killed and she is taken as a hostage. So sad. Hubby is dead. Crocodile tears.

 

[MinnesotaMary]

Pffft, all they had to do was to go to Starbucks and have some kids on skateboards turn the license plate upside down :floorlaugh for Jodi trial followers.)

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!! Too, Too Funny !!!!!!! I wish I was Gov. Cuomo: I'd hold a press conference and give you the Key to NY !!! :laughing::happydance:

 

[TigerBalm]

I cannot find the pic of Matt help

Just look under photos with the hashtag #prisonbreakny

https://twitter.com/hashtag/prisonbreakny?src=hash&vertical=default&f=images

 

[BUF]

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Thank you Angel!

 

[atthelake]

Not sure if this means right now and he's sharing more details, or if she's referring to what we already know he's told them.

@nalinashapiro4: The Governor says David Sweat is talking to police now. #news4
[video=twitter;615570701894946817]https://twitter.com/nalinashapiro4/status/615570701894946817[/video]

:moo: saying "I want a lawyer" perhaps. :thinking: why not LE releasing this information :thinking:

:giggle:

 

[human]

:moo: saying "I want a lawyer" perhaps. :thinking: why not LE releasing this information :thinking:

:giggle:

Maybe info is related to future arrests and trials?