Found Safe NY - Chelsea O'Donnell, 17, Nyack, 11 August 2015

[MyBelle]

National Enquire "Exclusive interview video" When asked by reporter asked so Rosie O'Donnell stole your daughter... "I think so" http://content.jwplatform.com/previews/ZmUvE0ob-7IAbBnIqin

If there is a video of the bio mother signing the legal papers then this issue should be easily resolved.

I'm curious why the state did not immediately step in at birth and seize the child if she was born to a mother addicted to heroin. The baby would have needed specialized care to treat withdrawal.

JMO

 

[LinasK]

It is really hard for Rosie and her daughter , imo, because it is somewhat 'normal' for a 17 yr old girl to 'have problems' with their mother. It is all part of growing up and even close mothers/daughters go through similar rough patches. But it is magnified when you have an adoptive mom and a newly discovered bio-Mom. it makes it too easy for the teen to think that all problems will be resolved by establishing a 'new' mother in one's life. But it is does not usually work out that smoothly in the end. JMO

Yup! Two of DH's nieces came to live with us at different times- both when they were 17, because their mother, DH's sister had died, father is worthless substance abuser. I got cr*p from both of them about, "I don't have to listen to you, you're NOT my mother!!". Neither of them lasted because they couldn't abide by our rules. Now they are in their 30's, have kids, own houses, and careers (in that order) and in somewhat stable relationships, and now they respect me. But teenage girls at 17 are the hardest, especially when they aren't your own!

 

[corundogs]

Text messages from Chelsea and Bio mom http://radaronline.com/photos/rosie-odonnell-adopted-daughter-surrogate-texts/photo/1027631/netseer

That is all so crazy!!! Many people have a negative image of Rosie. But I don't think there is anything untoward about the adoption. And those texts are pretty outlandish if you ask me. Rosie actually seemed to try to deal with it in the best way possible. The accusations from Bio-Mom are not something anyone should have to deal with. If you are so drugged up you don't know what your drugged up baby daddy did with your child, then you have no business having that child! What does the Bio-Mom think would have happened to Chelsea if she wasn't adopted? Rosie had no reason to get a "black market" baby.

How ugly this all is.

I really hope Chelsea is somewhere safe. And not being used somehow.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Seems the issues have been brewing for a bit ... Rosie and Michelle split up announced in Feb, and just few months prior Nov is when Chelsea contacted Bio Mom, Bio Mom goes to Nat Enquire ... New baby, parents split, who knows what else real live stuff. Its hard on adults, and children .. being played out in the spotlight... never would want to know...:scared:

In February, O'Donnell announced her split from Michelle Rounds, the two are the parents of the comedienne's youngest child Dakota. Around the same time, the 53-year-old announced her departure from The View, a move she says she made in order to focus on her health and her family.

"There's lots of stuff going on at home and there's lots of stuff going on at work," O'Donnell admitted. "The only thing I can really control is the work, by leaving."

 

[MyBelle]

Possible to adoption date? I read an article that said in NJ where the adoption took place, that once ink dry, it done deal, Bio parents cant come back. That was then .. unsure of new laws. But Rosie had all the legal paperwork and since she was big on telling the truth to her about being adopted, even on her post on her old blog, said she still had the outfit Clelsea was wearing and she could have someday. I have a couple friends who are adopted private adoptions... a few that I know that gave infant up for adoption... and nieces/nephew who were adopted by their stepdad. .. Lots of different emotions and opinions there for sure.

I've never heard of changing a baby's legal date of birth. The entire point of vital records is to make sure they are accurate. And when a parent voluntarily relinquishes their parental rights, they do have to be in a sound mind when they do it. Kinda like they have to be in their sound mind when they make a will or sign over power of attorney. It just strikes me as odd to change a baby's birth date on a birth certificate.

JMO

 

[Sleuthster]

Possible to adoption date? I read an article that said in NJ where the adoption took place, that once ink dry, it done deal, Bio parents cant come back. That was then .. unsure of new laws. But Rosie had all the legal paperwork and since she was big on telling the truth to her about being adopted, even on her post on her old blog, said she still had the outfit Clelsea was wearing and she could have someday. I have a couple friends who are adopted private adoptions... a few that I know that gave infant up for adoption... and nieces/nephew who were adopted by their stepdad. .. Lots of different emotions and opinions there for sure.

If the adoption was done in NY they have 6 months I believe to go back and contest the adoption. Florida is a year. C is 17, why did it take her so long to say that her signature was illegally obtained??

As for why C is saying her birth date was changed by 2 months, I'm not sure why she is telling bio mom this in her texts. A birth certificate cannot be amended legally ie; birth date changed. If her birthdate is in Sept then why go to the National Enquirer and why have C runaway? A child has the right to contact her bio parents when they turn 18. I really think there is a financial motive behind bio's actions.

 

[strawberry]

Text messages from Chelsea and Bio mom http://radaronline.com/photos/rosie-odonnell-adopted-daughter-surrogate-texts/photo/1027631/netseer

Great! Bio mom seems like a real winner if she gave it sold these


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[corundogs]

I may be speaking out of turn here. And mean no offense at all - to anyone.

But aren't mental illnesses often inherited? If Chelsea is bi-polar or something, would it be a shock that Bio-Mom is also? Because based on what I am reading from those texts and other reports, sounds like Bio-Mom has some issues as well.

 

[arkansasmimi]

It is really hard for Rosie and her daughter , imo, because it is somewhat 'normal' for a 17 yr old girl to 'have problems' with their mother. It is all part of growing up and even close mothers/daughters go through similar rough patches. But it is magnified when you have an adoptive mom and a newly discovered bio-Mom. it makes it too easy for the teen to think that all problems will be resolved by establishing a 'new' mother in one's life. But it is does not usually work out that smoothly in the end. JMO

Not only does this 17 yr old have Rosie, but her other Adoptive mom Kellie Carpenter-O'donnell that she has siblings with, and then a new baby brother with her step mother, in which that relationship is on the outs. Any one of those issues is stressful, but all together at once and 17... then add in the celebrity factor and being protective for more reasons than the average parent would have reason ullhair: JMHO

 

[tiffay01]

Not saying this is the case here, BUT the new 'thing' these days is to claim your dog is a therapy dog as 'therapy dogs' can go into restaurants, retail stores and other public venues that do not admit pets.

Also, Ms. O'Donnell's name is spelled incorrectly in the thread title.

You are so right. In fact in this little town in which I live, had a man and his wife walk into the local Mexican restaurant with a snake around his neck. When ask about it he said it was a service animal, obviously it wasn't but goes to show people will go to any length. (NOT saying Rosie's daughter is making a claim that her service animal isn't really a service animal.)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/15/us/restaurant-snake/

Link provided for reference.

 

[arkansasmimi]

That is all so crazy!!! Many people have a negative image of Rosie. But I don't think there is anything untoward about the adoption. And those texts are pretty outlandish if you ask me. Rosie actually seemed to try to deal with it in the best way possible. The accusations from Bio-Mom are not something anyone should have to deal with. If you are so drugged up you don't know what your drugged up baby daddy did with your child, then you have no business having that child! What does the Bio-Mom think would have happened to Chelsea if she wasn't adopted? Rosie had no reason to get a "black market" baby.

How ugly this all is.

I really hope Chelsea is somewhere safe. And not being used somehow.

JHNO, I think the Bio Mom is in for a really rude awakening ... re media... And JMHO on what the public thinks of a celebrity image. We only see a glimpse of them... ok some more than others, but it is only from sources with an agenda. Not them as real life people with real life problems .. I believe she loves her children, all of them. I too just pray the young lady is somewhere safe.

 

[MyBelle]

If the adoption was done in NY they have 6 months I believe to go back and contest the adoption. Florida is a year. C is 17, why did it take her so long to say that her signature was illegally obtained??

As for why C is saying her birth date was changed by 2 months, I'm not sure why she is telling bio mom this in her texts. A birth certificate cannot be amended legally ie; birth date changed. If her birthdate is in Sept then why go to the National Enquirer and why have C runaway? A child has the right to contact her bio parents when they turn 18. I really think there is a financial motive behind bio's actions.

The bio mom may very well have sold her story but I don't believe Rosie has any liability for actually obtaining her signature on the voluntary relinquishment papers. Surely an agency or attorney handled that aspect to it. The bio mom's accusations that it was a black market adoption are accusations about a crime. Rosie may also be an innocent victim.

JMO

 

[Damarna]

She has a six month old therapy dog..isn't that kind of young? Or maybe she is training it to be a therapy dog?


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My daughter lives with a significant mental health issue. Her therapist was willing to write a prescription for a therapy dog so - she declined (I guess our 4 bassets were enough). Basically it may be a companion vs. trained therapy dog we think. The phrase "therapy dog" is used loosely IMO. Certainly not being negative because I know how pets can help.... just sayin'

 

[LinasK]

If the adoption was done in NY they have 6 months I believe to go back and contest the adoption. Florida is a year. C is 17, why did it take her so long to say that her signature was illegally obtained??

As for why C is saying her birth date was changed by 2 months, I'm not sure why she is telling bio mom this in her texts. A birth certificate cannot be amended legally ie; birth date changed. If her birthdate is in Sept then why go to the National Enquirer and why have C runaway? A child has the right to contact her bio parents when they turn 18. I really think there is a financial motive behind bio's actions.

Of course there is because Rosie is a big name celebrity. That makes her a target. If some poor woman had adopted Chelsea, the bio mom probably wouldn't care.:notgood:

 

[Sleuthster]

The bio mom may very well have sold her story but I don't believe Rosie has any liability for actually obtaining her signature on the voluntary relinquishment papers. Surely an agency or attorney handled that aspect to it. The bio mom's accusations that it was a black market adoption are accusations about a crime. Rosie may also be an innocent victim.

JMO

She doesn't have any liability because the even happened 17 years ago and her right to contest it ended long ago. Also, the judge would have either asked bio mom if anyone made her sign it if bio attended the hearing to terminate her parental rights/finalization of adoption or she would have had to sign in the witness of a notary, if she didn't attend, that no one forced her to sign and she did so feeling she was competent to sign.

 

[LinasK]

You are so right. In fact in this little town in which I live, had a man and his wife walk into the local Mexican restaurant with a snake around his neck. When ask about it he said it was a service animal, obviously it wasn't but goes to show people will go to any length. (NOT saying Rosie's daughter is making a claim that her service animal isn't really a service animal.)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/15/us/restaurant-snake/

Link provided for reference.

At Disneyland, we saw a guy walking a Chocolate Lab that was supposedly a "service dog" without a vest on. The dog acted very unruly. When I asked the guy if I could pet it, he got defensive and hostile.

 

[Coldpizza]

Folks, just because Chelsea is a daughter of a celebrity doesn't mean the rules get to bend.

All parents involved are victims and no crime has been committed. She is simply a missing person like so many here on Websleuths.

Please think about that when you post and don't forget to link when posting facts surrounding her disappearance.

You can discuss the content of MSM articles, but posting rumors won't be tolerated.

Thank you

 

[MyBelle]

She doesn't have any liability because the even happened 17 years ago and her right to contest it ended long ago. Also, the judge would have either asked bio mom if anyone made her sign it if bio attended the hearing to terminate her parental rights/finalization of adoption or she would have had to sign in the witness of a notary, if she didn't attend, that no one forced her to sign and she did so feeling she was competent to sign.

I'm not following your point because if a parent voluntarily surrenders parental rights, why would there be a hearing?

afaik, the mother isn't contesting it in civil court with Rosie, she's making an accusation in the court of public opinion of a black market adoption, which is an accusation of a crime.

JMO

 

[LinasK]

Also, if these are legitimate text messages, why are they in cursive with hand drawn boxes??? I've never in my life seen a text message in cursive.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Interesting article in which Rosie is quoted People 2001 http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20133782,00.html