GUILTY NY - Evanna Tranberg-Bennett, 12, died, parents failed to get her medical care, 6 Dec 2019 Probation

[SugarQueen]

Do they not realize how ridiculous they sound?

1) they searched the uncle’s symptoms, realizing he was seriously ill. Those very same symptoms in Evanna didn’t seem important?
2) they were about to leave for the hospital when Evanna choked? Then why was mom in a sheer nightgown when LE was interviewing her?
The list, like their fb posts, goes on and on and on.
Good grief, they are working overtime to try to CYA. They rarely even mention Evanna.

 

[greyarea]

The long post that was up that seemed like it was written by a different author IMO is deleted

It started with a list in all caps of the things evanna didn’t die of.

interesting that they take the things down that actually mention her.

I wonder if they believe these things won’t be recoverable by subpoenas to FB (or screen shots), or if their lawyer advised them to take them down, or if they are just trying to manipulate public opinion. I remember Althea agreeing at one point that deleting content like this on social media might be considered a crime during such an investigation.

I also noticed that many or all of the post by the actual TBF page are no longer shared on the Chatham community board. Maybe they were blocked or deleted.

 

[MsBetsy]

They said they began arranging for a neighbor to take them and Evanna to the hospital as they didn't own a car. Did they also ask her to take them to Boston before they decided to go to the hospital?

At one point I thought they said it was the friend who was certified in CPR who was going to give them a ride. They said he got there just as Evanna collapsed inside the house. Isn't that the witness who is always complaining about the hearings?

 

[MsBetsy]

Do they not realize how ridiculous they sound?

1) they searched the uncle’s symptoms, realizing he was seriously ill. Those very same symptoms in Evanna didn’t seem important?
2) they were about to leave for the hospital when Evanna choked? Then why was mom in a sheer nightgown when LE was interviewing her?
The list, like their fb posts, goes on and on and on.
Good grief, they are working overtime to try to CYA. They rarely even mention Evanna.

Apparently they don't go to bed sometimes until around 6:00 am. So afternoon is like what morning is to most people. At least that's what they said in one post.

 

[SugarQueen]

Apparently they don't go to bed sometimes until around 6:00 am. So afternoon is like what morning is to most people. At least that's what they said in one post.

I do understand that but wouldn’t mom have dressed if they were leaving to take Evanna to the hospital?

 

[MsBetsy]

I do understand that but wouldn’t mom have dressed if they were leaving to take Evanna to the hospital?

I would think she would have to at some point. They were apparently all getting ready to go when Evanna choked on candy in their parlor. I'm still not sure how nobody noticed a child choking on a piece of candy before losing consciousness.

 

[uburoi1]

In her parents's eyes, Evanna had become objectified; they treated her with no more urgency than a broken table leg.

 

[MsMarple]

At one point I thought they said it was the friend who was certified in CPR who was going to give them a ride. They said he got there just as Evanna collapsed inside the house. Isn't that the witness who is always complaining about the hearings?

I must have missed that, all I read was that the CPR trained witness was outside when Evanna collapsed so I'm not sure why he was there if the neighbor was going to drive them. Although that same witness has lived in the house on and off for 5 years so maybe he was still living there? And if he was trained in CPR why didn't they call him into the house to help? Argh, I can't keep track of all the different stories!

 

[MsBetsy]

I must have missed that, all I read was that the CPR trained witness was outside when Evanna collapsed so I'm not sure why he was there if the neighbor was going to drive them. Although that same witness has lived in the house on and off for 5 years so maybe he was still living there? And if he was trained in CPR why didn't they call him into the house to help? Argh, I can't keep track of all the different stories!

I think it was one of the earlier posts from about seven months ago. I'll try to find it again. See you next week! Haha.

Anyway, it was in relation to something DSS had written in their report. Something about how when the guest arrived he saw Evanna, but the family insisted that he did not see her until EMT arrived.

 

[Warwick7]

No, I just checked those screenshots and I think that she searched for the word "Evanna" on the conversation with Tenji so she could easily pull out the texts about her and that might be why it shows up like that.

I tried that on Messenger just now, I searched for the word "iPhone" in a group conversation, the word "iPhone" shows up like "Evanna" does on that message.

My issue with those screenshots is that they tried to pick and choose what to post, but still failed miserably. Some messages are taken out of context, the car accident has nothing to do with them supposedly trying to go Boston. Most of the screenshots don't have a time stamp.

I suspect that Evanna was not feeling well since, at least, November 13. That text about "still dealing with Evanna" had nothing to do with her misbehaving, it was about her being sick and Papa "handling it". If Papa was SO sick, he wasn't "handling it" regarding Evanna misbehaving.

The messages about "life or dead circumstances" are NOT about driving in snow, it's about taking Evanna to the hospital.

They really thing they're smarter than everyone but they manage to make things worse and worse for themselves with every word they write. In my opinion, those messages just further prove how negligent they were regarding Evanna's health.

Exactly!!!!!!!

 

[Warwick7]

The long post that was up that seemed like it was written by a different author IMO is deleted

It started with a list in all caps of the things evanna didn’t die of.

interesting that they take the things down that actually mention her.

I wonder if they believe these things won’t be recoverable by subpoenas to FB (or screen shots), or if their lawyer advised them to take them down, or if they are just trying to manipulate public opinion. I remember Althea agreeing at one point that deleting content like this on social media might be considered a crime during such an investigation.

I also noticed that many or all of the post by the actual TBF page are no longer shared on the Chatham community board. Maybe they were blocked or deleted.

You're right, it has been deleted.
I was just reading it yesterday....
Hmmmm......

 

[Warwick7]

I must have missed that, all I read was that the CPR trained witness was outside when Evanna collapsed so I'm not sure why he was there if the neighbor was going to drive them. Although that same witness has lived in the house on and off for 5 years so maybe he was still living there? And if he was trained in CPR why didn't they call him into the house to help? Argh, I can't keep track of all the different stories!

Especially when they keep deleating posts and comments.

It's quite deceptive and misleading...

 

[Warwick7]

MOO: The author or authors of these inundating posts are jealous of Evanna. And or is extremely resentful of her.

Let's take a look at some of the author's responses. Ill paraphrase the best I can.

*Evanna was having an active and feisty year of growth.

*She dictated what kind of clothing and other items we should bring along for her.

*insisted that she felt well enough to ride there in a car and not an ambulance.

*She asked if we could stop on the way and get her some "Amazake", a traditionally-made sweet drink that was her favorite.

*she asked for several natural candies her mother had made that morning for the children, and eagerly ate several of them.

*Amid these activities, Evanna, sitting and watching from a couch in our parlor where she had been parked and slept during the cold (as did many of us), and which she found a great novelty and probably would have tried to claim as her own personal bedroom on an ongoing basis, she suddenly collapsed.

*stuffing her face

*She was always leading the other children down to the stream behind our house to look for crayfish - after we had them in their best suits and dresses to go somewhere.

*Evanna would use any excuse to watch movies, which is normally not something children in our family.

*she was the "firecracker" of the family and always got plenty of attention for it.

*Evanna was violating our home quarantine repeatedly to get in on watching movies, requiring (and generally ignoring) our constant reminders to not do so.

*always the one who pulled out the old items carefully stored in the attic to try on or play with on a whim.

*she was a fiesty kid, always looking to do what interested her, no matter what.

*Evanna wanted to go to Boston, which was a fun place for her, and didn't care how much it snowed.

MOO I am disgusted at the contempt the author shows Evanna....

 

[MsBetsy]

I must have missed that, all I read was that the CPR trained witness was outside when Evanna collapsed so I'm not sure why he was there if the neighbor was going to drive them. Although that same witness has lived in the house on and off for 5 years so maybe he was still living there? And if he was trained in CPR why didn't they call him into the house to help? Argh, I can't keep track of all the different stories!

Well, no wonder I was confused. The post is from March 18 and is literally about 37 paragraphs long. It's more like an essay.

It was actually the DSS petition I was referring to. The first sentence is cut off at the beginning but it says,

"... were unable to take her to the ED due to lack of transportation. Today, a friend made it to the house, however shortly after she suddenly became unresponsive which was witnessed by a friend and 911 was called, family provided CPR under direction of 911.

The family claims that in reality the person was already there and had witnessed the whole thing and knows that "the real events don't match what DSS has made up in the petition."

So is that the CPR trained witness?

Anyway, the entire post is a summary of the false claims made by DSS, including the claim that Evanna had never been to a doctor, that she had a chronic UTI which led to her death, that one child had encephalitis, had no medical history, had never eaten solid foods, that the children's vitamin D levels were low, and many, many other things. Thirty seven paragraphs worth.

 

[Lilibet]

MOO: The author or authors of these inundating posts are jealous of Evanna. And or is extremely resentful of her.

Let's take a look at some of the author's responses. Ill paraphrase the best I can.

*Evanna was having an active and feisty year of growth.

*She dictated what kind of clothing and other items we should bring along for her.

*insisted that she felt well enough to ride there in a car and not an ambulance.

*She asked if we could stop on the way and get her some "Amazake", a traditionally-made sweet drink that was her favorite.

*she asked for several natural candies her mother had made that morning for the children, and eagerly ate several of them.

*Amid these activities, Evanna, sitting and watching from a couch in our parlor where she had been parked and slept during the cold (as did many of us), and which she found a great novelty and probably would have tried to claim as her own personal bedroom on an ongoing basis, she suddenly collapsed.

*stuffing her face

*She was always leading the other children down to the stream behind our house to look for crayfish - after we had them in their best suits and dresses to go somewhere.

*Evanna would use any excuse to watch movies, which is normally not something children in our family.

*she was the "firecracker" of the family and always got plenty of attention for it.

*Evanna was violating our home quarantine repeatedly to get in on watching movies, requiring (and generally ignoring) our constant reminders to not do so.

*always the one who pulled out the old items carefully stored in the attic to try on or play with on a whim.

*she was a fiesty kid, always looking to do what interested her, no matter what.

*Evanna wanted to go to Boston, which was a fun place for her, and didn't care how much it snowed.

MOO I am disgusted at the contempt the author shows Evanna....

Not only does the author show jealousy, resentment and contempt for Evanna, but every single one of these comments is designed to make Evanna seem to be responsible for what happened to her. Personally, I think they are all lies. I also think choking on candy is a lie also. It was never mentioned early on, and is IMO just another way to deflect blame from the family to Evanna and EMTs. And even if each statement is true, SO WHAT?!!! Evanna died. It wasn’t her fault that she died. It was the fault of the responsible adults who should have gotten her medical care days before.

 

[Jane_Fox]

Here are key points from Facebook Help center & manual for Law Enforcement. This may be useful for Mod to add to one of their more specific forums.

*NOTE: A search of this info will bring up a few sentences of the policy, BUT it is misleading unless one reads further & browses the PDF manual guidelines****

-Facebook has a contact person specifically for LAW ENFORCEMENT for all matters as well as for Emergency (Immediate Life Endangered)-

“Whether for civil or criminal cases one may expeditiously submit formal preservation requests through the Law Enforcement Online Request System
*The first step is for a LE/ Investigator for criminal but as well other officials (Attorney/Investigators for civil) to register/log in to the LE Portal.*
*Initially they would make a
“preservation request”. This means that any targeted users deletions in any area of FB will immediately be “Preserved”. Civil is for the next 60 Days. One additional 90‐day period for preservation is allowed. HOWEVER, for criminal cases, presentation is immediate for the next 90 days with extensions.

“We will take steps to preserve account records in connection with official criminal investigations for 90 days pending our receipt of formal legal process.”
*Any deletions will be recoverable up until specified length of time until Facebook recieves the necessary legal documents ie: Search Warrants, Subpoenas etc FOR RECORD REQUESTS.*

-Includes EXIF information, if available, with the photos in addition to metadata.
-A history of Chat conversations or messages sent/recieved
-list of IP addresses in logging in or out.
-The last location associated with an update.

 

[Jane_Fox]

Here are key points from Facebook Help center & manual for Law Enforcement. This may be useful for Mod to add to one of their more specific forums.

*NOTE: A search of this info will bring up a few sentences of the policy, BUT it is misleading unless one reads further & browses the PDF manual guidelines****

-Facebook has a contact person specifically for LAW ENFORCEMENT for all matters as well as for Emergency (Immediate Life Endangered)-

“Whether for civil or criminal cases one may expeditiously submit formal preservation requests through the Law Enforcement Online Request System
*The first step is for a LE/ Investigator for criminal but as well other officials (Attorney/Investigators for civil) to register/log in to the LE Portal.*
*Initially they would make a
“preservation request”. This means that any targeted users deletions in any area of FB will immediately be “Preserved”. Civil is for the next 60 Days. One additional 90‐day period for preservation is allowed. HOWEVER, for criminal cases, presentation is immediate for the next 90 days with extensions.

“We will take steps to preserve account records in connection with official criminal investigations for 90 days pending our receipt of formal legal process.”
*Any deletions will be recoverable up until specified length of time until Facebook recieves the necessary legal documents ie: Search Warrants, Subpoenas etc FOR RECORD REQUESTS.*

-Includes EXIF information, if available, with the photos in addition to metadata.
-A history of Chat conversations or messages sent/recieved
-list of IP addresses in logging in or out.
-The last location associated with an update.

Too late to edit: Here is the link on Facebook as well as the Manual::

Links: Facebook-(One could go to their Portal which I did then it said do not proceed further)

Safety Center

Manual: PDF: (This will generally auto download but I did & read thru the 37 pages & pulled the relevant parts for my post in here related to Tranberg Bennett

Netzpolitik.org › 2016/08 › f...PDFThe Unofficial Guide to Facebook's Law Enforcement Portal Version 2

 

[Jane_Fox]

You're right, it has been deleted.
I was just reading it yesterday....
Hmmmm......

@greyarea @Warwick7
I see it... Isn’t this the Facebook post you’re referring to as deleted?
Tranberg-Bennett Family

 

[Warwick7]

@greyarea @Warwick7
I see it... Isn’t this the Facebook post you’re referring to as deleted?
Tranberg-Bennett Family

I just went there again. It shows on my end deleted. There is no post even for Nov. 29th...

 

[MsBetsy]

@greyarea @Warwick7
I see it... Isn’t this the Facebook post you’re referring to as deleted?
Tranberg-Bennett Family

Thanks for posting that, I never got around to reading it the first time around.

It's amazing how hypocritical this family is. They have been doing the same thing since the beginning that they claim is being done to them. In almost every post they claim the children are being abused and slapped by their caretakers based on the testimony of a two year old that was obviously coached. They even went as far as calling the guardians "perverts."

They continue to accuse an EMT worker of killing their daughter and that the whole county is covering it up. They claim these people have no remorse, yet the family has not shown one bit of remorse over the last year. They have not even had a funeral or memorial service for Evanna.

They continously state that the people on line who have been defaming them are people associated with DSS and have been warned. They seem to have a handful of supporters, but for the most part the majority think they are guilty of neglect and are responsible for Evanna's death. They can't all work for the county.

Even if there is someone involved in the case on FB posting about them (It's happened before) they have already said they know who it is so why keep mentioning it? It will all come out in court if they go through with their case against them.

They continue to violate the terms of the NDA they say they signed. They aren't supposed to talk about the case with their children. Do they really think the kids want to answer questions about vaccinations and when they last spoke to their attorney?

They probably could have been reunited with them by now if only they had cooperated. Getting the children back doesn't seem to be their first priority.

Imo