GUILTY NY - Evanna Tranberg-Bennett, 12, died, parents failed to get her medical care, 6 Dec 2019 Probation

[MsBetsy]

If I understand correctly clients can submit a written waiver of conflict of interest. Good luck explaining that to the family. Can the judge overturn waivers?

Once the suspects have individual counsel are they allowed to remain in the same house?

IMO it's in Venuska's and Ryan's best interests to throw Steve and Heidi under the bus. Sussman can't even suggest it as long as he's representing all the adults, right?

I don't think there is any way they will turn against their parents. They seem to be a very close family to me. They all appear to be supportive of one another, unless I missed something.

 

[MsMarple]

At least in New York, Rule 1.7 of the Rules of Professional Conduct suggests that an attorney still cannot take a case even with a written waiver if one client would have a claim or defense against the other party in a litigation. The lawyer has to "reasonably believe that the lawyer will be able to provide competent and diligent representation to each affected client," which I don't think anyone could do when one client is an allegedly domineering parent and the second client is a young adult child of that parent.

I have turned down potential clients for much weaker conflicts. If there's any chance that your honest advice to your client would be to throw their co-defendant under the bus, I don't think you can ethically represent both parties. That's just my personal opinion and where I draw the line but I just don't see how you are fully representing your client's interest when you have this secondary interest to consider too.

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/rules/jointappellate/NY-Rules-Prof-Conduct-1200.pdf

RULE 1.7.
Conflict of Interest: Current Clients
(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b), a lawyer shall not represent a client if a reasonable lawyer would conclude that either:
(1) the representation will involve the lawyer in representing differing interests; or
(2) there is a significant risk that the lawyer’s professional judgment on behalf of a client will be adversely affected by the lawyer’s own financial, business, property or other personal interests.

(b) Notwithstanding the existence of a concurrent conflict of interest under paragraph (a), a lawyer may represent a client if:
(1) the lawyer reasonably believes that the lawyer will be able to provide competent and diligent representation to each affected client;
(2) the representation is not prohibited by law;
(3) the representation does not involve the assertion of a claim by one client against another client represented by the lawyer in the same litigation or other proceeding before a tribunal; and
(4) each affected client gives informed consent, confirmed in writing.

Thanks @Alethea for the comprehensive answer!

 

[craftyhistorynerd]

If I understand correctly clients can submit a written waiver of conflict of interest. Good luck explaining that to the family. Can the judge overturn waivers?

Once the suspects have individual counsel are they allowed to remain in the same house?

IMO it's in Venuska's and Ryan's best interests to throw Steve and Heidi under the bus. Sussman can't even suggest it as long as he's representing all the adults, right?

I don't think Venuska would be capable ... it's a cult basically Ryan maybe

 

[Lusitana]

If someone is going to turn on Steve and Heidi, that's not going to be Venuska.

She didn't even bother to leave the home when her children were returned and got them removed again, so no, she's not going to do it. It appears that her loyalty to her parents is more important than being with her own children.

 

[craftyhistorynerd]

If someone is going to turn on Steve and Heidi, that's not going to be Venuska.

She didn't even bother to leave the home when her children were returned and got them removed again, so no, she's not going to do it. It appears that her loyalty to her parents is more important than being with her own children.

that's not loyalty, it's past that it's almost a pathology ... there's really an odd dynamic there

it's textbook.. .these kids are kept totally isolated, under the total control of the parents, don't tell what goes on "outsiders" are enemies, they won't understand

and this is punctuated by multiple, frightening visits and removals by cps

 

[Lusitana]

that's not loyalty, it's past that it's almost a pathology ... there's really an odd dynamic there

She's 26, she was raised like this, she has been fed this narrative for 26 whole years. She doesn't know any better.

It's hard to feel bad for her when she's failing her own children, but I do feel bad for her. She's just not capable of questioning them, she's not capable of understanding that she is victimizing her children the same way she was victimized.

One would think that losing a sister would snap them out of it but no, of all of them, Venuska is a true ride or die, she will never go against Papa, even if that means that she loses her children.

She could've walked away when DSS returned her children but no, she stayed and the children were removed again.

 

[craftyhistorynerd]

She's 26, she was raised like this, she has been fed this narrative for 26 whole years. She doesn't know any better.

It's hard to feel bad for her when she's failing her own children, but I do feel bad for her. She's just not capable of questioning them, she's not capable of understanding that she is victimizing her children the same way she was victimized.

One would think that losing a sister would snap them out of it but no, of all of them, Venuska is a true ride or die, she will never go against Papa, even if that means that she loses her children.

She could've walked away when DSS returned her children but no, she stayed and the children were removed again.

In their mind they're victims... always... everyone is against them... 5 cps investigations in different states ... conspiracy ... 4 removals of their children ...it's everyone else against them ... now solid evidence and a dead child, multiple law enforcement agencies ... all a vast conspiracy because they're anti vax and non traditional .. no it's not it's because they neglected a child to death

 

[readmylips]

Tranberg Bennett “key witness” who lives in the house has gone dark. It’s plausible that the “key witness” in fact were not aware of the account being used while they were gone over the Thanksgiving holiday- so many months of credibility issues based off posts by them. I do not agree with the comnent on WS that it was a burner account. They were linked to their family posts & that was addressed in his lengthy community post with outrage coming from the Tranberg Bennett family on his behalf.

Absolutely 200% a burner account. Alaska?? Come on! STAY FOCUSED!

 

[readmylips]

Oh my. The family has erected a roadside sign with a picture and plea to support the Tranberg Family.
Chatham Community Board

The property this "sign" is displayed on also has a large picture of the DA in a "jail" type erection. It can be found on Rt 9H just prior to the double lanes leading to I90. Obviously a disgruntled family with the CC court system. Place is a damn wreck. Sounds like they are also.

 

[shotgun09]

@Lusitana, ITA with what you said about Venuska.

She is the 'alpha' offspring of Papa and Heidi ..
She will set the example...
She will tow the line..
She will lead the other sisters..

This is all getting very dark, IMO
Almost Charlie Manson dark

 

[Lusitana]

@Lusitana, ITA with what you said about Venuska.

She is the 'alpha' offspring of Papa and Heidi ..
She will set the example...
She will tow the line..
She will lead the other sisters..

This is all getting very dark, IMO
Almost Charlie Manson dark

Well yeah, she's the oldest, the first born. And the only one who has produced more little Tranberg-Bennett children to keep the "legacy" going.

They almost function like a traditional Monarchy, first born rules. Until a son is born. They have a boy, but he's too little. The way they mentioned how he is the only Tranberg-Bennett boy in one of their posts bothered me.

Venuska was the one who did CPR on Evanna, of course.

 

[MsMarple]

Okay... now Ryan Torres is posting on the Chatham board. His post is a cut and paste from the Tranberg FB page. How bizarre. Why is he pretending he wrote the post?

And he's also denying that the family ever mentioned Evanna having swelling prior to her choking. Duh, that post is there for all to see and has been for months. What's he playing at?

 

[Jane_Fox]

Absolutely 200% a burner account. Alaska?? Come on! STAY FOCUSED!

I am focused- If one isn’t able to understand how to FB search thru someone else’s account, or recognize that a profile can place ANYTHING as location... it’s not being “unfocused”- Why else do you think Tranberg Bennett (then later “SC”) were so freaked out about the “key witness” having his family contacted? - And THEN SC post disappearing?!

 

[bears10]

Okay... now Ryan Torres is posting on the Chatham board. His post is a cut and paste from the Tranberg FB page. How bizarre. Why is he pretending he wrote the post?

And he's also denying that the family ever mentioned Evanna having swelling prior to her choking. Duh, that post is there for all to see and has been for months. What's he playing at?

they can’t keep track of their lies and story changes jmo

 

[Jane_Fox]

Okay... now Ryan Torres is posting on the Chatham board. His post is a cut and paste from the Tranberg FB page. How bizarre. Why is he pretending he wrote the post?

And he's also denying that the family ever mentioned Evanna having swelling prior to her choking. Duh, that post is there for all to see and has been for months. What's he playing at?

You mean “Ryan Torres” the father of two Tranberg Bennett children with Venuska who did not support the petition for family member Grandmother V to temp take kids out of foster care and the father who didn’t show up to the first court hearings about the removal of his kids? The one who was so concerned but fearful that he reached out to the Columbia County NY DA Prosecuting office to find out the states of Evanna back in December 2019? That father?

 

[Jane_Fox]

I am focused- If one isn’t able to understand how to FB search thru someone else’s account, or recognize that a profile can place ANYTHING as location... it’s not being “unfocused”- Why else do you think Tranberg Bennett (then later “SC”) were so freaked out about the “key witness” having his family contacted? - And THEN SC post disappearing?!

@readmylips Perhaps on Fb your profile was blocked for some reason from seeing the many comment/exchange regarding the discussion with the family & another who contacted SC & his family- hence your timing based off the public location viewable that it is a “burner account”- just a thought

 

[CrimeAway]

Now the original post with the picture of the hoarding seems to have gone from the local page.

 

[Jane_Fox]

Now the original post with the picture of the hoarding seems to have gone from the local page.

HOARDING LMAO i can’t keep up!!!

 

[MsMarple]

You mean “Ryan Torres” the father of two Tranberg Bennett children with Venuska who did not support the petition for family member Grandmother V to temp take kids out of foster care and the father who didn’t show up to the first court hearings about the removal of his kids? The one who was so concerned but fearful that he reached out to the Columbia County NY DA Prosecuting office to find out the states of Evanna back in December 2019? That father?

Indeed that is he. And now it looks like the entire post has been removed, right after the family came on and threatened to doxx all the alleged corrupt county officials who have been using fake accounts on FB - and elsewhere - to defame them. I think maybe their threat to publish the accountholders' information violated the board's TOS. They say they never threaten anyone.

But no worries, someone came right back on to repost the roadside sign. And no, it could never happen to me because I call a doctor when my kids are sick.

 

[CrimeAway]

I mean "hoarding" as in, an 'advertising hoarding' (noun), rather than the act of hoarding (verb), of (perhaps) paranoid delusional conspiracy theories, or anything else for that matter.