GUILTY NY - Evanna Tranberg-Bennett, 12, died, parents failed to get her medical care, 6 Dec 2019 Probation

[MsBetsy]

Seems confusing to me as you said you were glad for the arrests, but feeling they could be dropped. I understand your writing to imply, that not only the DA who complied & submitted the charges is just playing a game of some kind, but also a judge in a manner of speaking since he accepted the filing & arraignment. What case have you experienced or seen to take the personal stance of randomly "Not trusting the DA?" with no follow up except "you lived there?"!

@MsBetsy
Comment of "It would not surprise me either. If what the family says is true, DSS did not have sufficient proof that the children were in imminent danger." IMO is not equivalent: DA is not involved with Dss regulations/decisions & that is not a trial. Our children are vulnerable & what" proof" you speak of is about hearings to decide whether to continue holding children away is in their best interest or whether services can be provided to give the children back-

I was referring to the claims the family made about the reasons the children were removed. Generally low vitamin D levels and most of the claims the family made that were listed in the petition are not reasons for removal.

The family is also not helping their case by continually breaking the terms of the Nondisclosure agreement.

We've only heard one side of the story. We have no idea what evidence LE has. The family claims they did not interview the witnesses who were there but that doesn't mean they haven't interviewed other people who knew the family or saw Evanna during the time she was sick.

Since five other adults have now been charged, investigators likely have much more evidence than we've heard from the family, and possibly some that they weren't even aware of themselves.

Imo

 

[MsBetsy]

Agree: and they have at time revealed even more in their posts/comments (again screenshots in fb elsewhere) -They noted that DSS petition had reference to a child stating Evanna had liquid coming out the back of her legs” - They also mentioned that they did not go to the hospital in the 6th out of concern that they were being setup to be arrested- Also it was RYAN who contacted by phone the DISTRICT ATTORNEY office on the 6th & learned there was a hearing (which they need not attend as that 1st one parents aren’t often even aware of as it’s “Emergency Hearing” & they were told to attend one on the 9th (that Monday following her death)- which they did not attend any hearings until the 18th and from their account heidi & steve did not attend in person. INDEED there is much evidence unknown; that is a given considering the investigation remained open- children testimony is likely not even the totality MOO

Yeah, I noticed they were very vague about whether or not they were allowed to see Evanna. When a commenter questioned about them about not going to see her, they described how they were kicked out of the hospital that first day, but avoided answering the question as to whether or not the DSS commissioner had contacted them or why they didn't go.

I think they may have deleted that comment about being afraid they would be arrested after realizing how incriminating that statement was.

IMO

 

[jenn83]

It's awful how they just ignored her swollen belly saying it was likely constipation due to cold weather. That makes no sense. Evanna knew something was wrong with her and that it wasn't normal.

 

[LietKynes]

Finally some justice is hopefully coming for Evanna !
Those ignorant and abusive monsters do not deserve any of those children.
They let Evanna die slowly and did nothing.
Imo.

 

[shotgun09]

It's awful how they just ignored her swollen belly saying it was likely constipation due to cold weather. That makes no sense. Evanna knew something was wrong with her and that it wasn't normal.

IMO, The 'family' posts their excuses on a continuous basis trying to defend the lies they have been caught in. This lie above, ignoring her belly..calling it constipation is another.

In a December 2019 post of VTB, she clearly states that they were aware and concerned of Evanna's abdomen. She actually used the term " quite severe" regarding the description of her belly. And, the time span was over "about a week and a half. "

IMO, Evanna's condition was noticeably worsening / changing over time, and the adults in the home did nothing for her. The proof is in (their) pages and pages of posts.

 

[Warwick7]

IMO, The 'family' posts their excuses on a continuous basis trying to defend the lies they have been caught in. This lie above, ignoring her belly..calling it constipation is another.

In a December 2019 post of VTB, she clearly states that they were aware and concerned of Evanna's abdomen. She actually used the term " quite severe" regarding the description of her belly. And, the time span was over "about a week and a half. "

IMO, Evanna's condition was noticeably worsening / changing over time, and the adults in the home did nothing for her. The proof is in (their) pages and pages of posts.

BMM
Bingo!!
Bam!!

So many of us have saved posts and screenshots. YES!! The proof is in their pages and pages of posts. And it will be their undoing.

And I will add many of these posts are resentful towards Evanna.

 

[jenn83]

@scorpiomama77
Made some vanilla cupcakes with mixed berry sauce. They were pretty good if I do say so myself #vegan #refinedsugarfree #eggfree #wfpb #wholefoodsplantbased Photo by @ryantorres.1120

An old post but thought they weren't vegan...

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Tricia may have kept it somewhere, but I don’t think it’s visible.

Thanks. The reason I ask is that when VTB was initially posting here, the story she told had no mention of choking. And I distinctly remember a poster discussing various conditions that could cause a sudden collapse and cessation of breathing, and mentioned in passing choking. It was after that post that the candy and choking was incorporated into the narrative.

Anyone else remember this?

I'll say MOO and IIRC since those early posts aren't available.

 

[shotgun09]

Thanks. The reason I ask is that when VTB was initially posting here, the story she told had no mention of choking. And I distinctly remember a poster discussing various conditions that could cause a sudden collapse and cessation of breathing, and mentioned in passing choking. It was after that post that the candy and choking was incorporated into the narrative.

Anyone else remember this?

I'll say MOO and IIRC since those early posts aren't available.

Yes! I remember that exactly! We watched the story actually evolve, right here on WS! The changing story is what sent my 'hinky alarms' on high alert

 

[SassynOz]

Yes! I remember that exactly! We watched the story actually evolve, right here on WS! The changing story is what sent my 'hinky alarms' on high alert

I hope that old thread is around it might be helpful imo

 

[MsMarple]

I didn't say that. I said it would not surprise me. I was elated charges were filed. That was a huge step I applaud. But there are always oddnesses possible in this county.

RSBM
Okay, so it wouldn't surprise you if the charges were dropped because of possible oddnesses. Got it.

Thanks. The reason I ask is that when VTB was initially posting here, the story she told had no mention of choking. And I distinctly remember a poster discussing various conditions that could cause a sudden collapse and cessation of breathing, and mentioned in passing choking. It was after that post that the candy and choking was incorporated into the narrative.

Anyone else remember this?

I'll say MOO and IIRC since those early posts aren't available.

I do. And I remember how angry she got when posters called her on it. However, she did say in a FB post that the choking was mentioned in the 911 call. Until the call is released we won't know if that's true or exactly how it was presented. Problem is the family tends to lie and often changes their story when confronted with evidence. She could very well have said in the 911 call something like Evanna was choking - IOW no mention of candy. MOO.

Anyhoo, here are a few links to other FB pages where the TB family may pop up:
WTEN
WNYT NewsChannel 13
Chatham Community Board

ETA: Tranberg Bennett is actively posting on the WTEN FB. Unsurprisingly, they yakyakyak and cut and paste old posts but when someone asked if they ever called a doctor to ask advice... crickets. That's the family MO - ignore and avoid the hard questions. MOO.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Yes! I remember that exactly! We watched the story actually evolve, right here on WS! The changing story is what sent my 'hinky alarms' on high alert

It's interesting, not only what has been added, but also what has removed from their account. On Dec 28, they posted that EMTs did use a compression bag, and none of them were sure if she had been given oxygen or not.

 

[shotgun09]

It's interesting, not only what has been added, but also what has removed from their account. On Dec 28, they posted that EMTs did use a compression bag, and none of them were sure if she had been given oxygen or not.

IMO, the TB Family's claim that Evanna wasn't given oxygen at all, while noting that a compression bag was used, is their assumption that because the bag wasn't connected to an O2 tank then no oxygen was given. False! Compression Bags force in oxygen from that same oxygen enriched air you and I breathe. They are trying to pull a fast one with this goofy claim.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

IMO, the TB Family's claim that Evanna wasn't given oxygen at all, while noting that a compression bag was used, is their assumption that because the bag wasn't connected to an O2 tank then no oxygen was given. False! Compression Bags force in oxygen from that same oxygen enriched air you and I breathe. They are trying to pull a fast one with this goofy claim.

For people who claim to be super educated and brilliant, they sure lack a lot of basic knowledge.

 

[readmylips]

Seems TBF has gone "ghost" (IMO)

In searching some of the "meanings" of Steve & Heidi's name choice for their daughters - more weirdness:

No real "origins" for Venuska, Svenia, Tevania, Petrovana but a common phrase on Names.org states
Fun Facts about the name Vanuska

• How unique is the name Vanuska? Out of 6,028,151 records in the U.S. Social Security Administration public data, the first name Vanuska was not present. It is possible the name you are searching has less than five occurrences per year.

Evanna however is of Hebrew origin meaning "God is Gracious".

 

[bears10]

I believe I've found the answer to the question of whether or not the family was allowed to be with Evanna when she was removed from life support.

The family insists that they were not and that Evanna's parents were "banned" from being with her. The short video of the Steve and Heidi's arraignment posted back in the thread showed the DA explaining that the parents had permission to go to her but did not. They had an exception to the Order of Protection to allow them to be with Evanna during her last hours.

In a May 11 post the family accused DSS of intentionally asking a friend of theirs where they were while knowing the friend didn't know. According to the family DSS had asked that person at least 6 times about where the parents were. Contrary to the parents' claim IMO DSS probably also asked others if they knew where Steve and Heidi were.

DSS told that person to tell the parents that Evanna was declining rapidly and they should come to the hospital the next morning. In fact DSS suggested by 9:30 am. They complained in the post that had they shown up then it would probably have been right when doctors took her off life support.

But the parents never showed up to the hospital so the doctors went ahead and removed Evanna from life support.

That's a very different story from what they are posting now. Now they say Steve and Heidi were actually barred from going to Evanna. They declare it over and over, even as recently as November 28. It's not true - their own words expose their lie. This is not my own opinion, this is their own narrative.

I’m shocked they ever LEFT the hospital. Their kid was dying. And they just go home, unable to be contacted? If god forbid one of my stepkids was in the hospital in bad condition, my butt would be parked in the waiting room if I couldn’t the in the hospital room.

 

[MsMarple]

For people who claim to be super educated and brilliant, they sure lack a lot of basic knowledge.

I'll say! IMO. It's gotten difficult to tell when the family is lying to prove a point or when they just plain don't understand a concept.

Case in point - they keep claiming DSS altered the autopsy drawing by erasing the notation that goes to chest trauma on Evanna in order to cover up murderous actions by the EMTs.

To me it looks like it may indicate bruising if anything, not broken ribs that caused massive internal bleeding. Furthermore in the screenshots of the autopsy they posted - as evidence - there's no notation of broken ribs or massive internal bleeding.

Yet the family continues to cry corruption and calumny. Why don't they just post the original autopsy drawing to show what they are alleging? After all, they say they have the autopsy reports. What's stopping them?

Apparently they believe what they posted is "evidence" of tampering by DSS. No, it's not. Do they know this and do it anyway in order to make some false point? Or are they so woefully ignorant that they just can't comprehend any concept that isn't about food? MOO.

 

[readmylips]

Did I read somewhere above that TBF is commenting on WTENs FB page? If so can you provide the link? TIA

 

[bears10]

It would not surprise me either. If what the family says is true, DSS did not have sufficient proof that the children were in imminent danger.

I've seen CPS open cases for families, stating various reasons, conduct a lengthy investigation, only to abruptly close the case without explanation. Usually it's because they either didn't have enough evidence to prove neglect or they built their case on assumptions.

Normally CPS will first work with the family, providing medical and mental health treatment and other services if necessary, before removing children from the home.

In this case it was the tragic and sudden death of a child that prompted them to open an investigation. So far we've barely heard what evidence LE has. According to the family they didn't interview witnesses in the year since Evanna died. Their allegations of sexual abuse proved to be false.

That doesn't mean the parents were not neglectful in providing proper medical care. Most would agree that they should have taken Evanna to the doctor much sooner.

As for the manslaughter charges, the prosecution would have to prove there is a direct link between the parent's neglect and the child's death. They would have to show that the adults were aware that Evanna was gravely ill and knowing the consequences, deliberately delayed seeking medical care.

IMO

“If what the family says is true” is a huge “if”. Considering their ever changing stories.

Doesn’t seem like CPS had much of a chance to work with the family, since the family has shown, imo, how uncooperative they have been.

I don’t see why we’d know what evidence LE has since it’s an active case. it’s not exactly high profile, so despite the TBs sense of self importance, there isn’t much reporting on the case.

 

[Lusitana]

Where did they go when they left the hospital? They couldn't go home because LE was searching it and they weren't allowed to go inside.

My understanding is that LE was searching the home for several days, so where were them? They didn't have the children to look after because they were taken by DSS, they couldn't go home, and their child was in the hospital. So, why did they left and where did they go?