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[southcitymom]

I've been thinking about my response to this for some time. I hope I make sense here.

I do not see pedophilia as a sexual orientation. I see it as a disorder. I understand the argument that that an adult that experiences sexual desires for children but has not acted on them has done nothing wrong. My argument is that there is something fundamentally wrong with a person that has those feelings, something so wrong that they are beyond repair.

I was brought up in an environment that did not really deal with homosexuality. However, at this point in my life I believe I can understand, to some extent, what is going through the heads of people that have that orientation. My attraction toward women is so strong that I have never had a moment of doubt about my orientation, and I have come to realize that those who are attracted to others of the same gender must feel the same way. However, I'm talking about a desire for another person that is an equal in every way - emotionally, physically, intellectually. While I have always been attracted to women, I have always been attracted to women of my own age (and usually slightly older) from when I was a teenager.

An attraction to a child is not, to me, an "orientation" because it does not represent desire for a mutually respectful relationship. Children depend on the adults around them to care for them, to teach them, and to show them how to grow into responsible and caring adults. No 5 year old girl has "desire" for sexual contact with a 29 year old man, no matter what crap the pedophiles spew about how it's the children that come on to them. By it's very nature the attraction of a pedophile to a child relies on coercion, force, dishonesty, abuse and betrayal - whether or not he actually touches the child. It bears no resemblance to my little fantasies about my wife's hot friends - to engage in those thoughts would be wrong for many reasons, but not because I would be doing something that is any where near the violation of trust and care that engaging in sexual acts with a child would be.

In short, I do not see sexual desire for children as the far end of a spectrum where most of us are at another part. I see it as a completely different thing, more comparable to the desire to inflict pain on animals, or to set fires, or derail trains. I see it as completely and utterly wrong, with no possible explanation that would make it acceptable. I agree with the scientific literature that consistently argues that no effective treatment for the disorder is known, and I feel that first offense should lead to life imprisonment at the very least. My son turns 6 today, if I were to find out some pedophile had touched him that pedophile would never get the chance to spend life in prison, and I'm completely serious about that.

You make a great deal of sense, Adnoid, and I respect and appreciate your thoughts on the subject. I too have a 6-year-old son. I also have a younger sister who was molested by a pedophile when she was a young girl. I have given the subject a good deal of consideration.

In the psychiatric community, pedophilia is a "paraphilia." Paraphilia is a medical or behavioral science term for what is also referred to as: sexual deviation, sexual anomaly, sexual perversion or a disorder of sexual preference. It is the repeated, intense sexual arousal to unconventional (socially deviant) stimuli.

It is obvious to me that paraphilias are orientations. If you are only or mainly aroused sexually by animals, then that's where you are oriented sexually - by the simple definition of the word "oriented." To say someone is oriented, as such, is NOT to say that such an orientation is normal or acceptable.

Those are just words, of course, but the reality is that I believe the sexual desires that pedophiles have are just as strong and urgent as the sexual desires that I have for men or you have for women. And, although sexuality is experienced by many on some sort of spectrum, most of us can't imagine our main orientation changing drastically. No one can make me be sexually attracted to an animal or a prepubuscent child. Likewise, no one can make a male pedophile be sexually attracted to an adult female or male.

There is a never a situation where it is anything but wrong and abusive for an adult to have sexual relations with a child. How do you deal with that if you are an adult who is only sexually attracted to children? How would I deal with it if acting on my sexual urges always harmed another person? I want to say that because I'm such a great moral person, I would never act on them....but then I have to recall how many times I have made bad decisions because of my sexual urges. So, it remains for me, a "there but for the grace of God" experience when I consider pedophiles.

I agree that they are broken beyond any repair we know of. I agree that we must find ways to protect our children.

The whole subject becomes even more confusing when we consider that a great deal (according to at least one report I read, maybe even the majority) of child sexual abuse is not at the hands of genuine pedophiles, but at the hands of situational molesters. Statistically, my 6-year-old is in greater peril of being molested by family or acquaintances than a random pedophile.

 

[capoly]

I've been thinking about my response to this for some time. I hope I make sense here.

I do not see pedophilia as a sexual orientation. I see it as a disorder. I understand the argument that that an adult that experiences sexual desires for children but has not acted on them has done nothing wrong. My argument is that there is something fundamentally wrong with a person that has those feelings, something so wrong that they are beyond repair.

I was brought up in an environment that did not really deal with homosexuality. However, at this point in my life I believe I can understand, to some extent, what is going through the heads of people that have that orientation. My attraction toward women is so strong that I have never had a moment of doubt about my orientation, and I have come to realize that those who are attracted to others of the same gender must feel the same way. However, I'm talking about a desire for another person that is an equal in every way - emotionally, physically, intellectually. While I have always been attracted to women, I have always been attracted to women of my own age (and usually slightly older) from when I was a teenager.

An attraction to a child is not, to me, an "orientation" because it does not represent desire for a mutually respectful relationship. Children depend on the adults around them to care for them, to teach them, and to show them how to grow into responsible and caring adults. No 5 year old girl has "desire" for sexual contact with a 29 year old man, no matter what crap the pedophiles spew about how it's the children that come on to them. By it's very nature the attraction of a pedophile to a child relies on coercion, force, dishonesty, abuse and betrayal - whether or not he actually touches the child. It bears no resemblance to my little fantasies about my wife's hot friends - to engage in those thoughts would be wrong for many reasons, but not because I would be doing something that is any where near the violation of trust and care that engaging in sexual acts with a child would be.

In short, I do not see sexual desire for children as the far end of a spectrum where most of us are at another part. I see it as a completely different thing, more comparable to the desire to inflict pain on animals, or to set fires, or derail trains. I see it as completely and utterly wrong, with no possible explanation that would make it acceptable. I agree with the scientific literature that consistently argues that no effective treatment for the disorder is known, and I feel that first offense should lead to life imprisonment at the very least. My son turns 6 today, if I were to find out some pedophile had touched him that pedophile would never get the chance to spend life in prison, and I'm completely serious about that.

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