Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 1

[TripleA]

Here is a simple map that shows Sheff Rd where she lives into Norwich then up through Plymouth. That would be the best way to the mall.

So if I were going to meet someone to ride along, and I did not want them going to my house, I may tell them to meet me at the apartments as a safe place to leave my vehicles all day.

So, if the husband filled the tank two days before she disappeared and she likely did not go far the day in between, then she should have still had almost a full tank, right?

 

[Londonrraine]

Even if the family has given up hope already, why wouldn't they still be looking for Jennifer?

So many family's are told by LE that their loved one is deceased, and the families still never stop looking until they find that person.

So what is going on here? Why so little family/friend involvement. Do they know where she is? Are they afraid of someone/something if they do speak up? What gives?

 

[LivingJuicy]

Just a few questions that I have.

If she left mid morning to head to Syracuse to shop, did she have a guestimate of what time she would be home?

Was she to pick up the children from school or was Ganesh goign to do so in her absence? Or do they take a bus?

From what I understand, the police were called around 8 p.m. to report her missing.

I find it odd that there was even discussion from her husband about filling her car with gas. It's not like she was driving to Florida, she was heading to a mall an hour or so away.

IMO, there would be more of a chance for her to be randomly attacked by a robber or rapist than to plan on meeting an internet love interest and then harmed. (not that it doesn't happen but talk about bad luck!) And since there is no sign of bank or credit card usage or a vehicle missing or a sign of a struggle in her van, I sort of have ruled out that theory.

 

[TripleA]

No idea...we have not heard anything in the media from her parents or friends.

Just southeast are the Catskill Mountains and just northeast are the Adirondack Mountains. With 10 hours of time between the time she left and the time she was reported missing, she could be anywhere.

 

[TripleA]

Just a few questions that I have.

If she left mid morning to head to Syracuse to shop, did she have a guestimate of what time she would be home?

Was she to pick up the children from school or was Ganesh goign to do so in her absence? Or do they take a bus?

From what I understand, the police were called around 8 p.m. to report her missing.

I find it odd that there was even discussion from her husband about filling her car with gas. It's not like she was driving to Florida, she was heading to a mall an hour or so away.

IMO, there would be more of a chance for her to be randomly attacked by a robber or rapist than to plan on meeting an internet love interest and then harmed. (not that it doesn't happen but talk about bad luck!) And since there is no sign of bank or credit card usage or a vehicle missing or a sign of a struggle in her van, I sort of have ruled out that theory.

People "hook-up" on the internet every day and then make a real life meeting plan. If she did meet with foul play she may not have had any reason to struggle near her own vehicle. She would just hop into the vehicle of the person she was meeting and drive away. Then a little ways down the road the person could grab her phone and chuck it out the window and then subdue her anywhere along the way.

 

[Londonrraine]

I don't really want to talk about me, but here goes.

When my marriage was on its last leg, I found friends online, who "helped me through". I had told my ex I wanted a divorce, and he said, "You sure about that?" , "Because you will pay, and no one will ever know I had a hand in it."
Long story short, the people I met online turned out to be my ex's 'acquaintances'. He set me up. Sound crazy? You have no idea, and i'm very lucky to be here today.

Nothing would surprise me here, but who knows? I just thought i'd share this little bit,...so people might understand why I say certain things.

 

[Londonrraine]

Oh, did I forget to mention my family? Yes, I did. Well, my ex threatened my family and my family shut me out completely for years, out of fear of what he might do.

If this had been me back then, my family probably would have been 100% silent. It's no wonder the bells are going off in my head! :/

The truth is, making noise is the one thing that would have stopped him.

Just sayin,...IMO, anything is possible here. We need some input!!

 

[Gracelin]

I have to call DIL she is a teacher in Norwich. Maybe she has an inside scoop..There are miles and miles of wooded areas up there.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I don't really want to talk about me, but here goes.

When my marriage was on its last leg, I found friends online, who "helped me through". I had told my ex I wanted a divorce, and he said, "You sure about that?" , "Because you will pay, and no one will ever know I had a hand in it."
Long story short, the people I met online turned out to be my ex's 'acquaintances'. He set me up. Sound crazy? You have no idea, and i'm very lucky to be here today.

Nothing would surprise me here, but who knows? I just thought i'd share this little bit,...so people might understand why I say certain things.

:grouphug: London...:grouphug:

 

[LivingJuicy]

Wow, LR - that's insane!

Don't get me wrong, I know people meet offline all of the time. Back in the popular AOL days, I was meeting people left and right. I cringe at some of the stuff I did in my early 20's.

I'm not saying that it is impossible that she met up with someone that she had been talking to online and met with foul play but IMO it would be on the bottom of my theory list. I hope we know more soon!

 

[Londonrraine]

Wow, LR - that's insane!

Don't get me wrong, I know people meet offline all of the time. Back in the popular AOL days, I was meeting people left and right. I cringe at some of the stuff I did in my early 20's.

I'm not saying that it is impossible that she met up with someone that she had been talking to online and met with foul play but IMO it would be on the bottom of my theory list. I hope we know more soon!

Anything is possible here...

Where is Jennifer and where are those who care about her?

 

[Londonrraine]

JENNIFER's Family and friends,....PLEASE SEE THIS! APPLY THIS TO JENNIFER!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8szhmJ29iTE

 

[Londonrraine]

http://www.americandailyherald.com/...social-media-helps-find-missing-people-faster
http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Social-media-helps-investigators-174998221.html
http://www.imavex.com/social-media-influence-on-missing-persons.blog
http://kps3.com/thots/does-social-media-have-the-power-to-find-a-missing-person

IMO, Not only can Social Media help find people, it can help saves lives, stop criminal behaviors and catch predators/killers.

 

[LivingJuicy]

I agree that it's very quiet.

Another thought - I noticed online that she had commented quite a bit regarding her health. We are the same age and it seems that she was struggling with quite a bit of health issues. Things that I know nothing of at our age. Could she have harmed herself? We don't know her mental status. People get depressed around the holidays as well.

Also, if she was maybe considering leaving her husband she could have not been in the best states of mind.

Just considering alternate theories. Still no happy ending but a thought. =(

 

[Londonrraine]

I agree that it's very quiet.

Another thought - I noticed online that she had commented quite a bit regarding her health. We are the same age and it seems that she was struggling with quite a bit of health issues. Things that I know nothing of at our age. Could she have harmed herself? We don't know her mental status. People get depressed around the holidays as well.

Also, if she was maybe considering leaving her husband she could have not been in the best states of mind.

Just considering alternate theories. Still no happy ending but a thought. =(

Good thoughts there LJ. And in any of these scenarios, wouldn't social media sharing be the best tool?
I think so..the silence is so loud...

(Going to check on DR in Co. I see a task force is resuming search today. Praying!)

 

[LivingJuicy]

Good thoughts there LJ. And in any of these scenarios, wouldn't social media sharing be the best tool?
I think so..the silence is so loud...

(Going to check on DR in Co. I see a task force is resuming search today. Praying!)

I agree, social media can be really beneficial.

Her mother lives in AZ and is sharing some updates on her FB page but I can't see much more than that. I believe her sister may be as well.

Her husband changed his profile and cover photo on FB yesterday, to a picture of them together and one of the whole family.

I'm such a skeptic that little things irk me and they may mean nothing! But I look anways. So things like her family not "liking" the photo on FB bugs me, even though it's nothing! Like if I saw that they liked the photo, I'd feel more sure that there's nothing hinky going on. admit it, I'm weird and I over-sleuth. Years of skip tracing made me this way.

So here are some scenarios:

She left, premeditated to harm herself.
She left, premeditated to meet someone and was in turn, harmed.
She left to meet someone and with that someone. Ditched the vehicle and phone to look fishy but in reality, she wanted to get away, at least temporarily.
She was randomly attacked while out that day and her vehichle and phone were found as a result.
She was harmed by someone that she knows and her vehicle and phone were planted to stage a part of a potential crime scene.


What else? And where is she?

 

[shefner]

It wouldn't surprise me to find that Jennifer met up with someone she met online. But would she disappear herself from her children? This near to Christmas?

Or did foul play occur?

 

[TripleA]

I do not think that she left on her own - I think that would be the least likely event.

I think the two most likely possibilities are meeting someone to hang out with for the day that turned sour or a crime fo jealousy/anger perpetrated by someone she knows.

 

[Londonrraine]

O/T, I just thought i'd tell everyone that it is December 21st in Australia!

Our world's still spinning!

 

[OldSteve]

It wouldn't surprise me to find that Jennifer met up with someone she met online. But would she disappear herself from her children? This near to Christmas?

Or did foul play occur?

Haven seen it happen first hand in my family, and while any disappearance is horrible for husband and children, this is the worst time of year for it - especially if the mom who has left had bought gifts, wrapped them, and and left them under the Xmass tree. You think, how could anyone do that...

Considering the guilt the person leaving would experience, a note would have been left trying to explain some sort of reason.

That there was no note left - that really surprises me. A note might also lessen LE scrutiny of the house, and husband...