Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - #11

[SouthAussie]

(does anyone know if GR typically did the morning school run? )

RSBM

Did the girlfriend typically do her own morning school run? If so, I could see GR happily doing the morning school run for Jen's children.

 

[Pob]

Actually, if I recall correctly -- she didn't chat with POB -- because they weren't playing the same game at that time. She (or someone with her ID) either played her Camelot game a little bit that morning and/or chatted with someone other than POB (and that was relayed to POB).

POB said that some of her postings had been deleted. Just like a lot of stuff Jennifer had online was deleted. He even tried to delete her little stories she had posted to her writer's club (that didn't happen -- they were still there, last I looked).

Do we know for certain that the children saw and/or spoke to Jennifer that morning? What I recall from the Sheriff's statement back in December was that it was a "normal" morning (or something). But a "normal" morning in many households includes one of parents having a bit of a sleep in from time to time. So...maybe there was something about that I have missed? Maybe it's time to go back and look at the old threads again -- there's some in late January and February I haven't reviewed since February.

I agree that the children's testimony as to whether or not they saw Jennifer alive that morning would be crucial. I hadn't considered that aspect, and it's quite chilling. I do hope the Judge takes this into consideration -- that the DA brings it to his attention!!

Apologies I haven't answered this before, been lots of events for Remy the last few days! I didn't speak to Jen that morning, correct Abigail. A fellow player and trusted friend told me they spoke to her that morning. I have no reason to doubt them. Thank you LE for an arrest after 6 months waiting for it
I also doubt it was Remy chatting on the game, Jen had a certain way of talking u get to know after a while, I'm sure they'd have noticed, IMO.

 

[zwiebel]

Pob, do you still have copies of your conversations with Jennifer, that could be compared with any conversations on the day she disappeared?

 

[zwiebel]

'In honor of Mr Remy Ramsaran and....'

Pg 7. Oh dear. Not much honor there now.

http://www.epilepsyuny.org/Documents/Summer 2012 Newsletter.pdf

 

[Pob]

Pob, do you still have copies of your conversations with Jennifer, that could be compared with any conversations on the day she disappeared?

Only a few conversations that can't get deleted from an iPhone app that only show a couple of her fav phrases. Both I and the person that spoke to her chatted to her for months, so knew how she chatted and what she would talk about. I'm quite certain her DH wouldn't be able to copy.

 

[zwiebel]

Dear Jennifer was in this race, I can see her name there. Along with her bff (not).

I can't imagine how she found the energy or the willpower to do it, with three children and a muscle-bound husband to look after. Is it true that muscles prevent a person carrying out any household chores?

Anyway, well done Jennifer. What a wonderful effort for a good cause. You're the one who should be honored.
http://stbartsnorwichny.com/FeastdayPoster.htm

 

[Pob]

Dear Jennifer was in this race, I can see her name there. Along with her bff (not).

I can't imagine how she found the energy or the willpower to do it, with three children and a muscle-bound husband to look after. Is it true that muscles prevent a person carrying out any household chores?

Anyway, well done Jennifer. What a wonderful effort for a good cause. You're the one who should be honored.
http://stbartsnorwichny.com/FeastdayPoster.htm

Just 2 minutes later than them (same time!!) if iirc

 

[zwiebel]

Only a few conversations that can't get deleted from an iPhone app that only show a couple of her fav phrases. Both I and the person that spoke to her chatted to her for months, so knew how she chatted and what she would talk about. I'm quite certain her DH wouldn't be able to copy.

I've seen a bit of Jennifer's writing and I agree it is quite distinctive. However, I haven't seen any of Ganesh's. Only journalists quoting him and two replies to a psychic blog he appealed to that I'm not sure I'm allowed to post.

I am a little cautious about whether Ganesh could have copied Jennifer's writing style or not, until I can see how he wrote. I'm guessing he wasn't a writer, let alone one with talent, or he would have been out there flaunting it and we would have seen it. But still......a little doubt remains that he might have been able to pull it off.

 

[Pob]

I've seen a bit of Jennifer's writing and I agree it is quite distinctive. However, I haven't seen any of Ganesh's. Only journalists quoting him and two replies to a psychic blog he appealed to that I'm not sure I'm allowed to post.

I am a little cautious about whether Ganesh could have copied Jennifer's writing style or not, until I can see how he wrote. I'm guessing he wasn't a writer, let alone one with talent, or he would have been out there flaunting it and we would have seen it. But still......a little doubt remains that he might have been able to pull it off.

I really doubt it. Just as an example, I always used a different hello and goodbye phrase depending on where I played, one of which was "heydelli hodelli alliancerino" to say hi, she used similar quirky saying. It tells ppl, yes it's me chatting ...

 

[zwiebel]

Just 2 minutes later than them (same time!!) if iirc

Don't be sad. Jennifer achieved all she achieved through kindness, creativity, humor, gentleness, perseverance, understanding and dignity.
And a little bit of quirkiness that I think is lovely.

Others don't have that legacy. Never will. Jennifer is head and shoulders above them all and always will be now.

 

[Pob]

Anyways, enough about that game ... Looking forward to what happens on Thursday, anybody see j4j today about the appeal for a maple dresser, SMH I really do!!

 

[zwiebel]

I really doubt it. Just as an example, I always used a different hello and goodbye phrase depending on where I played, one of which was "heydelli hodelli alliancerino" to say hi, she used similar quirky saying. It tells ppl, yes it's me chatting ...

I posted about loving Jennifer's quirkiness at the same time you mentioned it!

That's a really complicated way of saying hello Pob, Lol!....Still wondering though if Ganesh could have accessed Jennifer's conversations, and known how she greeted people?

 

[Pob]

Don't be sad. Jennifer achieved all she achieved through kindness, creativity, humor, gentleness, perseverance, understanding and dignity.
And a little bit of quirkiness that I think is lovely.

Others don't have that legacy. Never will. Jennifer is head and shoulders above them all and always will be now.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the fact I kinda knew (even for a brief time and never actually met) such a warm, kind and loving mum.

 

[Bettylou4you]

Read on the Justice fb page that bff posted the day before on JRs wall that they should meet for lunch. Instead she drove GRs getaway home from the Y after her murder. Sad.

Wonder how that ride was? Topic of conversation? Anyone?

 

[Pob]

I posted about loving Jennifer's quirkiness at the same time you mentioned it!

That's a really complicated way of saying hello Pob, Lol!....Still wondering though if Ganesh could have accessed Jennifer's conversations, and known how she greeted people?

Sorry Zwiebel, I would think there's about 10 maybe more questions that I could ask to differentiate if I had any doubt. I feel this is irrelevant know there is somebody in custody.

 

[SouthAussie]

Anyways, enough about that game ... Looking forward to what happens on Thursday, anybody see j4j today about the appeal for a maple dresser, SMH I really do!!

He really didn't like Jen at all, did he? Got rid of her, got rid of her family heirlooms ...

 

[zwiebel]

Hey guys, Jennifer's mom is searching for a huge maple dresser that Ganesh gave away that has great sentimental value. It has a broken claw foot that would help id it. We must be able to find it. Given away to a Catholic charity in Chenango County. I'll help buy it back if the person who has it doesn't want to return it.

Can we go looking for some pics of maple dressers that an insider might tell us resembles the missing one? Then we could post it here and I could put it on Jennifer's webpage, so the pic would come up on google. I know we are a crime sleuthing site, but it is a crime how so many attempts have been made to wipe Jennifer from history, in my opinion.

 

[zwiebel]

Sorry Zwiebel, I would think there's about 10 maybe more questions that I could ask to differentiate if I had any doubt. I feel this is irrelevant know there is somebody in custody.

Sorry Pob, I didn't mean to question you. I was just thinking that any online conversations Jennifer had that morning she disappeared could be very important at the trial. But I am sure the DA has followed that up already. It was just the press reports of his remarks, that seemed to imply the prosecutor is going to say Jennifer died in bed, that got me wondering.

 

[Pob]

Sorry Pob, I didn't mean to question you. I was just thinking that any online conversations Jennifer had that morning she disappeared could be very important at the trial. But I am sure the DA has followed that up already. It was just the press reports of his remarks, that seemed to imply the prosecutor is going to say Jennifer died in bed, that got me wondering.

Not a problem Zwiebel, I messaged u a few likely questions that gamers ask to know who they are chatting to. Hope that explains better... I don't take offense at much tbh, really no need to apologise, just seemed we go OT for a while.

 

[zwiebel]

Dresser here, about halfway down in the classifieds, but it has a black finish. I think maple's a medium brown. I have some maple furniture but it's very old with a patina. That's basically dirt that makes it dark, so I don't know the natural colour.

http://www.evesun.com/classifieds/ads/