Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 3

[newsjunkie]

I know there have been questions about GR getting gas a couple of days before. I think it is possible that could have been done to "explain" fingerprints etc.

 

[sleepinoz]

Maybe he was in his work out clothes?

Just a thought...

Ready to go on his run and to the Y - don't runners usually start their run earlier than 10.30am if they have to work?

 

[LolaAngelina]

:yes:

I also got the impression, reading his comment, that he might actually be blaming JR that their whole lives are under the microscope and being judged by strangers now. IMO

Link to post with GR comment.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f....116046405231622.21590.116018661901063&type=1

Wow, the comments are again very harsh to JR. I get a feeling of anger and contempt from that message.

 

[enzeder]

I know there have been questions about GR getting gas a couple of days before. I think it is possible that could have been done to "explain" fingerprints etc.

I was actually thinking the same thing last night. Oh, we were told that GR fills the tank of JR's car every Saturday or Sunday but why wouldn't JR fill her own car with gas?.

IMO

 

[LolaAngelina]

Personally... I am thinking she started losing weight when she found out there was an "alleged" affair between her husband and BF.... In my experience that would be shocking enough to prevent me from having an appetite...

Once she started losing weight... She may have decided she like the effect... And contined... Though it may not have been difficult.... It would take quite a while to get over/through that type of double betrayal...

JMO

Yep I agree. I would say it was already hard for her having such a thin and fit bf who shared her husbands love for running. She probably already compared herself to her. Then of course learning the further info would have perhaps motivated her to look more like the person who (rumour only) was getting her husbands affection

 

[cluciano63]

Where on earth do all those people think she is, and how is she supposed to be living? Did she have enough cash to run away and hide for almost two months?.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Yep I agree. I would say it was already hard for her having such a thin and fit bf who shared her husbands love for running. She probably already compared herself to her. Then of course learning the further info would have perhaps motivated her to look more like the person who (rumour only) was getting her husbands affection

And.... It is often harder to take knowledge of an "emotional" affair than a strictly "physical" affair...

JMO

 

[PennyFlower]

http://www.minddisorders.com/Del-Fi/Dissociative-fugue.html

"The key feature of dissociative fugue is "sudden, unexpected travel away from home or one's customary place of daily activities, with inability to recall some or all of one's past," according to the APA. The travels associated with the condition can last for a few hours or as long as several months. Some individuals have traveled thousands of miles from home while in a state of dissociative fugue."

She may have planned a trip to Syracuse but expereinced a state of fugue along the way (prolonged stress and depression)?

I don't know.... I just want her to be alive and, so, researching all avenues that could lead to that....sigh...

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

http://www.minddisorders.com/Del-Fi/Dissociative-fugue.html

"The key feature of dissociative fugue is "sudden, unexpected travel away from home or one's customary place of daily activities, with inability to recall some or all of one's past," according to the APA. The travels associated with the condition can last for a few hours or as long as several months. Some individuals have traveled thousands of miles from home while in a state of dissociative fugue."

She may have planned a trip to Syracuse but expereinced a state of fugue along the way (prolonged stress and depression)?

I don't know.... I just want her to be alive and, so, researching all avenues that could lead to that....sigh...

I applaud your efforts.....

I SOOO want Jennifer to be alive, too! lease:

 

[Janeumayer]

I was actually thinking the same thing last night. Oh, we were told that GR fills the tank of JR's car every Saturday or Sunday but why wouldn't JR fill her own car with gas?.

IMO

Maybe he was tight with his money? I bet he had her on a tight budget.

 

[Janeumayer]

Where on earth do all those people think she is, and how is she supposed to be living? Did she have enough cash to run away and hide for almost two months?.

It is mind boggling. No worries that someone could have abducted her, laying on a ditch somewhere, etc. I am getting mad.:furious:

 

[Sharoneonta]

I hear ya PennyFlower. I really want that too.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Maybe he was tight with his money? I bet he had her on a tight budget.

I can see this being the situation.....

Now that I think about it.... It was said she had $500 to spend on a gift and a dress...

Usually when I go shopping I take my debit/credit card.... And buy items with the card.... Hoping I stay within a pre-planned amount.... But my DH doesn't ask how much I will be spending before I go.... And He finds out the amount days later when he pays the bills.....

But there is no allowance.... The money is OUR money... And we trust each other to spend what is needed to be spent...

I know I am rambling... But your post made me think there may have been a power struggle with the money situation on the part of GR...

JMO

 

[dillysmom11]

The statement that is bothering me from GR, is that JR "never knew how much she was loved". What exactly is meant by that?

I hope LE is all over this. Frustrating not to hear anything, are there searches scheduled?

 

[amberdawn723]

Thank you for that link Enzeder. That was a pretty interesting comment, but it leaves me still confused.
Is it considered "normal" to only kiss your spouse on the cheek before leaving? Does anyone here only kiss their spouse on the cheek? I've been married almost 15 years, and we've been told we're more affectionate towards each other than most couples, but I can't imagine only kissing him on the cheek. Makes me sad just thinking about it.

I don't think it's too unusual....especially given the premise that they were having marital troubles. I hardly ever kiss my hubby goodbye....but maybe that's just me. :waitasec:

Which btw, I think I've read both sides: GR wanting a divorce and JR begging him not to go; JR wanting a divorce.....
Has there been any MSM about either one wanting a divorce or was this all just hearsay from locals??

 

[amberdawn723]

I would love to have a solid timeline, because what we've been given via MSM is really not filling in the gaps.

Dec 11
8ish - kids off to school
?? - GR works from home on computer for 2 hours
10:30 - JR leaves for trip
?? - GR goes on a run
?? - GR ends up at sauna
?? - GR returns home
3ish - kids return home
5:30 - JR expected to return home
8pm - GR reports JR missing

 

[krey]

I don't think it's too unusual....especially given the premise that they were having marital troubles. I hardly ever kiss my hubby goodbye....but maybe that's just me. :waitasec:

Which btw, I think I've read both sides: GR wanting a divorce and JR begging him not to go; JR wanting a divorce.....
Has there been any MSM about either one wanting a divorce or was this all just hearsay from locals??

I'd like an answer to that too - who initially wanted the divorce, and when did the subject first come up?

And why would GR want people to know that JR was begging him not to divorce her? I don't remember where we first got this information, but I've definitely heard it somewhere. Doesn't that make it seem like he wanted her gone and she wouldn't leave?? (which makes you wonder if he found an "easier" solution. Did he hypothetically believe that without JR, he and a certain someone would be free to be together???)

I often wonder how much ES really knows. If she was/is so close to both of them, what does SHE think happened??

 

[sleepinoz]

I'd like an answer to that too - who initially wanted the divorce, and when did the subject first come up?

And why would GR want people to know that JR was begging him not to divorce her? I don't remember where we first got this information, but I've definitely heard it somewhere. Doesn't that make it seem like he wanted her gone and she wouldn't leave?? (which makes you wonder if he found an "easier" solution. Did he hypothetically believe that without JR, he and a certain someone would be free to be together???)

I often wonder how much ES really knows. If she was/is so close to both of them, what does SHE think happened??

If I remember correctly it was KF? That told us GR asked for the divorce and Jr begged otherwise.

 

[yupikgirl]

I don't understand why he reported her missing 3 hours after she was supposed to come home. Isn't he telling everyone now that he pretty much thinks she left him? So why call the police if you think she left you? Or did he change his story since that first day...cause I do remember people saying she would never ever leave her children...was he one of them?

 

[yupikgirl]

Also all the stuff on the website and poster makes zero sense to me. I read the reason for mentioning the nail polish...fine I get that, but why mention that she just started doing this? What does that have to do with her wearing nail polish?? All the other stuff too that was apparently "new" for her...mention it, but why point out on the missing flier and the website that it was a change/new?? It implies she left on her own and was changing over the last few months...why would they want people to think that and not look for her?

Eta oops I meant to add this to my previous post and not make anther post..sorry!