Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 5

[LivingJuicy]

Not only the victim but her family along with the strangers on Websleuths, that 'other' facebook. Everyone else is the problem.

Bravo!

 

[LivingJuicy]

Cannot fathom, since it took this long to publicly divulge a supposed one-time extramarital sexual encounter which was fueled by alcohol, why GR would publicly divulge now that LE told him, during obviously intense interrogations, that a quantity of blood was found in Jennifer's vehicle.

Most know that LE can lie all they like during interrogations.

Why even mention this to the public before LE does?

Because we are being read and it's closing people in! Attempt at damage control = fail!

 

[LivingJuicy]

FYI. I have a fundraiser started. Nothing official yet. Just saying that its ready when we are. $327 isn't a whole lot, I'd think to pay it myself but I'm giving LE a bit of time here...

There's got to be more coming to light soon!

My disclaimer is that if GR is innocent, I will feel horrible however, he has not put himself out there in a positive light. Nor does anything or anyone affiliated with him. In fact, these things - comments, chaos, diversion, etc. have only compounded my theory.

:-( poor Jenn

Looking at her picture and I think how beautiful, innocent, naive even she is.

Whomever may have harmed her deserves the worst punishment

In defense of her parents and family, I can see how they'd be quiet if they were 99% sure of what happened. Again to quote Remy, she didn't leave on her own.

 

[krey]

Because we are being read and it's closing people in! Attempt at damage control = fail!

Miserable fail!!!! :rocker:

 

[sleepinoz]

Because we are being read and it's closing people in! Attempt at damage control = fail!

By the number of Guests we have lately, Hi Guys :seeya: I think people are beginning to realise that the "Armchair Detectives" aren't so far from the truth.

O/T - Can we get a smilie for 'Armchair Detectives'

 

[krey]

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My disclaimer is that if GR is innocent, I will feel horrible however, he has not put himself out there in a positive light. Nor does anything or anyone affiliated with him. In fact, these things - comments, chaos, diversion, etc. have only compounded my theory.

Exactly!

And as someone said above, if he will lie about the affair with JR's best friend, what else will he lie about? Having an affair with ES was, in fact, living a lie. If his morals allow him to do that, he's cabable of much more, JMO.

He's made his own self look bad through his horrible actions and words against JR and her family, and then he whines because people are talking about it??? Blame yourself, buddy, for stooping so low. You choose the behavior, you choose the consequences (yes, I'm quoting Dr. Phil :blushing: lol).

 

[amberdawn723]

O/T but thought it was somewhat relevant as it mentions us Armchair Detectives specifically on WS helping LE solve cold cases.....http://bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/2013/02/22/web-sleuths/SMOW1wV7Ghi9aLvaKqr5jK/story.html

 

[LivingJuicy]

Hey I'll take armchair detective as a huge compliment. I know that we are all sacrificing our time to be here. Friday night = me here. We care. Sorry get over it to the haters. I think people are so jealous, ignorant, and or bitter about that.

We don't want drama. We would be fine if she did leave! When others have done so, we were patient and supportive.

Remy started it all saying she would never leave their family.

<modsnip> Give us a theory and we sleuth.

Sorry we are that good. Not.

 

[cluciano63]

The way I see it, what GR said about the affair and the blood was an attempt to get the jump on this info being widely known.

 

[enzeder]

The way I see it, what GR said about the affair and the blood was an attempt to get the jump on this info being widely known.

That's what I'm thinking too. Kinda like he's anticipating something and getting in first with his version of events. imo

 

[LivingJuicy]

Last for the night from me...

I wanted to thank the mods because this case has been super touchy. I know myself was at times, on thin ice.

I'm happy to say that in light of recent developments that they now are open to share and discuss what we have been..

I respect that their experience and wisdom brings us all together and it's nice to see that we all have issues and thoughts to agree upon.

I view this as teacher/ student and its nice to have some affirmation!

 

[Jilllian]

FYI. I have a fundraiser started. Nothing official yet. Just saying that its ready when we are. $327 isn't a whole lot, I'd think to pay it myself but I'm giving LE a bit of time here...

Well as of now we only need $227, as an admin on the HFJR site already donated $100. So we're looking good.

Sure wish we could get the FREE ones going. I think waiting for forensics might play a factor in that. Still can't help but think that the sooner the better though!

 

[cluciano63]

For what I believe has happened, I am afraid the billboards are a waste of money.

 

[LivingJuicy]

Well as of now we only need $227, as an admin on the HFJR site already donated $100. So we're looking good.

Sure wish we could get the FREE ones going. I think waiting for forensics might play a factor in that. Still can't help but think that the sooner the better though!

Agreed! She needs to come home!! I pray that she is alive but my reality tells me it's near impossible and that pisses me off. :-(. It all seems so sketchy and insane.

I still feel that she would never leave. And if she was a victim of foul play we would know more. Criminals don't always hide evidence.

.... Sigh, my heart hurts more than ever for a stranger I never met.

 

[krey]

I just want to say BRAVO to Joe Mahoney of The Daily Star for managing to get a confirmation on this information directly from the source, and for putting it out there for all to see! Hopefully, the reading public will recognize that CC and GR are attempting to downplay/explain away both the blood in the vehicle and the affair. The article will get more people talking, and maybe the pressure will lead to new discoveries (above all else, Jennifer herself).

 

[cluciano63]

Agreed! She needs to come home!! I pray that she is alive but my reality tells me it's near impossible and that pisses me off. :-(. It all seems so sketchy and insane.

I still feel that she would never leave. And if she was a victim of foul play we would know more. Criminals don't always hide evidence.

.... Sigh, my heart hurts more than ever for a stranger I never met.

I think she was a victim of foul play and that there is evidence, if not enough as yet.

 

[SouthAussie]

That's what I'm thinking too. Kinda like he's anticipating something and getting in first with his version of events. imo

Kinda like Joe Mahoney saying &#8220;C&#8217;mon Remy, isn&#8217;t it better for you to fess up before the sheriff (or The Daily Star) discloses the information&#8221; ?

 

[krey]

I was thinking about how if LE thinks that Jennifer ran off, this article would have been the perfect opportunity for them to say something like, "While we're still waiting for certain forensics to come back, we have no indication at this time that any foul play has occurred." Because if they believed GR to be innocent, they surely wouldn't want to see him continually "bashed" by the public, right? Wouldn't they feel some duty to let people know that they don't believe he harmed her, even if they had to say it in some round-about way? After being questioned by the reporter about the blood, they could only imagine that public scrutiny against GR would get worse.

So it's very telling that they chose to say nothing in that regard, IMO.

 

[LolaAngelina]

By the number of Guests we have lately, Hi Guys :seeya: I think people are beginning to realise that the "Armchair Detectives" aren't so far from the truth.

O/T - Can we get a smilie for 'Armchair Detectives'

Here, this will do for now!

:HHJP::detective:

 

[cluciano63]

I was thinking about how if LE thinks that Jennifer ran off, this article would have been the perfect opportunity for them to say something like, "While we're still waiting for certain forensics to come back, we have no indication at this time that any foul play has occurred." Because if they believed GR to be innocent, they surely wouldn't want to see him continually "bashed" by the public, right? Wouldn't they feel some duty to let people know that they don't believe he harmed her, even if they had to say it in some round-about way? After being questioned by the reporter about the blood, they could only imagine that public scrutiny against GR would get worse.

So it's very telling that they chose to say nothing in that regard, IMO.

I think LE prefers he keeps talking. I do not think they will drop many clues, unless they need help from the public.