Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 5

[dillysmom11]

Just found these from senior year.
The first two are poetry written by Jennifer that were published in the Labyrinth, which was a school magazine that displayed poetry and artwork by the students.
The third is Jennifer's Senior Class Will that was the the yearbook.

I think all show how loving and carefree Jenn was in highschool.

Wow. It's hard 'meeting' people who are missing, and knowing you would have been great friends. She needed great friends.

Thank you for sharing!

 

[krey]

Wow. It's hard 'meeting' people who are missing, and knowing you would have been great friends. She needed great friends.

Thank you for sharing!

Beautifully said, dillysmom!

 

[sleepinoz]

Don't think we've had this one yet:

http://blog.evesun.com/2013/02/18/editors-notebook-21813/

 

[Hexe]

Wow. It's hard 'meeting' people who are missing, and knowing you would have been great friends. She needed great friends.

Thank you for sharing!

:goodpost: Thank you button was so very much not enough!

 

[Simply Caustic]

Hey, glad to have you back!! I've been watching the Jodi trial too, but haven't joined in on the thread. I cannot WAIT for Martinez to get ahold of her! But gah, her defense testimony is going soooooo slooooooowly.

I don't know that I could find the beginning of the affair talk, I'm sorry. But the basics are that GR was having an affair with Jennifer's best friend ES for about 6 months, and it ended right before Jennifer went missing. However, it's been reported by locals and insiders that GR and ES are still spending a lot of time together, and ES was right by his side at the Shining Hope event, with GR/JR's kids hanging all over her.

Coincidentally, GR has said that Jennifer's behavior had "changed" during the past 6 months or so before she went missing.... which coincides exactly with the length of the affair. IMO, GR's assertion that she "changed" was either 1) a false perception by him due to his own sneaky behavior, or 2) completely made up to get people to believe that Jennifer ran away. JMO.

Best summation ever. That's exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!

 

[krey]

Best summation ever. That's exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!

You're welcome!!

 

[sleepinoz]

Billboard Design here:

https://www.facebook.com/LostNMissing?ref=ts&fref=ts

 

[LolaAngelina]

Billboard Design here:

https://www.facebook.com/LostNMissing?ref=ts&fref=ts

Is that the fb page for lost n missing or a personal page?

 

[sleepinoz]

Is that the fb page for lost n missing or a personal page?

Pretty sure it's LnM - Their name is in the link.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Just found these from senior year.
The first two are poetry written by Jennifer that were published in the Labyrinth, which was a school magazine that displayed poetry and artwork by the students.
The third is Jennifer's Senior Class Will that was the the yearbook.

I think all show how loving and carefree Jenn was in highschool.

My Word...

What beautiful thoughts...

Put down on paper in such a lyrical way!

:heart:

 

[Sharoneonta]

Before they were removed I saw pictures of her latest paintings, they were really great too!

Jennifer,
If you're out there and reading this. I want to buy your barn painting! It really reminds me of "home". You are SO talented.

 

[SoSueMe]

We're going to allow the links to the two Facebook pages pertaining to the missing Jennifer Ramsaran. We're only allowing discussion as to the constructive efforts of finding Jennifer.

Please leave the Facebook wars on Facebook and don't bring it to Websleuths.

We want to continue to allow the discussion as long as it's constructive, so please, do not link or discuss anything found on these pages unless it is to benefit Jennifer and the search for her.

Absolutely DO NOT link to anyone's pictures, Facebook, personal identifying information or otherwise unless it ties directly to Jennifer's disappearance. If these parameters are ignored or abused, we'll have to reconsider the discussion of either Facebook.

Thank you!

 

[dillysmom11]

We're going to allow the links to the two Facebook pages pertaining to the missing Jennifer Ramsaran. We're only allowing discussion as to the constructive efforts of finding Jennifer.

Please leave the Facebook wars on Facebook and don't bring it to Websleuths.

We want to continue to allow the discussion as long as it's constructive, so please, do not link or discuss anything found on these pages unless it is to benefit Jennifer and the search for her.

Absolutely DO NOT link to anyone's pictures, Facebook, personal identifying information or otherwise unless it ties directly to Jennifer's disappearance. If these parameters are ignored or abused, we'll have to reconsider the discussion of either Facebook.

Thank you!

No, thank YOU!! I know this forum is a ton of work, sorry we are making it harder!

:yourock:


Insiders/locals: do you know if there are any more planned searches?

 

[nursebeeme]

members only **no general discussion** SAR thread for Jennifer

searching, maps, etc, can be discussed here with our verified SAR experts

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

(post search ideas, etc)

 

[Caring4Many]

I'm hoping I can get us rolling again at a good pace & keep us all outta trouble? :crazy:
I've been thinking about a few things & also reading over at www.jenniferramsaran.com (previously cleared to discuss for those that don't know I made sure to ask). I have a few things I thought I'd bring up for possible discussion-feel free to tell me they were already discussed before I joined. I apologize now for all my extra wordiness!
1a-Did JR have a steady hair dresser? If so, did she (hairdresser or JR) ever redo her hair? You can easily mess up your color if you don't know what you're doing. What was the color difference between the color she had just had done & what was the box color?
1b-The found hair clippings -long or short- could she have cut bangs?Was she just trimming ends? She was just at the hair dressers can't think why most of this was done.
2-What other type of land do they own? rental apartments? Just land itself to build on later? This was probably covered but does JR parents own their portion of their land?
3-We've discussed the late timeliness of GR talking to media-in a lot of missing persons cases other people plead for their return-why has the media not sought out the parents, sister, best friend or even asked neighbors for their opinions? For example-lets say she is out there-read this & tell me this isn't a message that a "lost" (not as in missing, as in feeling) person would need to hear, even if this is someone you may be upset with. Eileen: Jen, my heart is broken.. I miss you so much. your laugh your ''jenisums'' as you call them. all our chats and road trips! listening to you sing to the radio in the car... hanging out at jenny's gym... there's just so many great memories. I cant tell you how worried we all are for you! Jen, if its in your power please give your family some kind of sign and know that a piece of us is with you always to give you strength.. I love you Jen (source-http://jenniferramsaran.blogspot.com/p/messages-to-jennifer.html)
4-If GR hadn't heard from JR all day & that was unusual -did he contact anyone else to see if she'd called or texted them? Why wait until evening to alert LE?
5- If there were cameras showing GR running as per Lavandas post wouldn't those same cameras have caught JRs vehicle passing through town? How good are their feeds-could we tell who was driving & if she was alone? Or at least what time her vehicle past through that area?
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Ok my apologies for throwing so much out at once. I'm saving the rest for later. What are everyone's thoughts?

 

[voominvava]

I'm hoping I can get us rolling again at a good pace & keep us all outta trouble? :crazy:
I've been thinking about a few things & also reading over at www.jenniferramsaran.com (previously cleared to discuss for those that don't know I made sure to ask). I have a few things I thought I'd bring up for possible discussion-feel free to tell me they were already discussed before I joined. I apologize now for all my extra wordiness!
1a-Did JR have a steady hair dresser? If so, did she (hairdresser or JR) ever redo her hair? You can easily mess up your color if you don't know what you're doing. What was the color difference between the color she had just had done & what was the box color?
1b-The found hair clippings -long or short- could she have cut bangs?Was she just trimming ends? She was just at the hair dressers can't think why most of this was done.
2-What other type of land do they own? rental apartments? Just land itself to build on later? This was probably covered but does JR parents own their portion of their land?
3-We've discussed the late timeliness of GR talking to media-in a lot of missing persons cases other people plead for their return-why has the media not sought out the parents, sister, best friend or even asked neighbors for their opinions? For example-lets say she is out there-read this & tell me this isn't a message that a "lost" (not as in missing, as in feeling) person would need to hear, even if this is someone you may be upset with. Eileen: Jen, my heart is broken.. I miss you so much. your laugh your ''jenisums'' as you call them. all our chats and road trips! listening to you sing to the radio in the car... hanging out at jenny's gym... there's just so many great memories. I cant tell you how worried we all are for you! Jen, if its in your power please give your family some kind of sign and know that a piece of us is with you always to give you strength.. I love you Jen (source-http://jenniferramsaran.blogspot.com/p/messages-to-jennifer.html)
4-If GR hadn't heard from JR all day & that was unusual -did he contact anyone else to see if she'd called or texted them? Why wait until evening to alert LE?
5- If there were cameras showing GR running as per Lavandas post wouldn't those same cameras have caught JRs vehicle passing through town? How good are their feeds-could we tell who was driving & if she was alone? Or at least what time her vehicle past through that area?
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - NY NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - #4

Ok my apologies for throwing so much out at once. I'm saving the rest for later. What are everyone's thoughts?

Personally, I am inclined to think that LE are not saying much and not releasing much information because they are watching someone, whoever it may be. Waiting for someone to screw up or lead them somewhere. Which would be why we don't know and haven't seen anything to do with camera sightings of JR or anyone involved. It's all too hush hush for me to think otherwise.

Isn't most of the information we've received from insiders, GR, and fb pages? We definitely do not know the whole story.

 

[Caring4Many]

Personally, I am inclined to think that LE are not saying much and not releasing much information because they are watching someone, whoever it may be. Waiting for someone to screw up or lead them somewhere. Which would be why we don't know and haven't seen anything to do with camera sightings of JR or anyone involved. It's all too hush hush for me to think otherwise.

Isn't most of the information we've received from insiders, GR, and fb pages? We definitely do not know the whole story.

Actually FB were not supposed to discuss. The cameras I was taking from a previous post where Lavanda made mention of GR being seen on cameras. Some of the other things were questions I had in general( media interviews) and from research others have added.

As for LE I'm hoping you're correct & also that a search will be authorized to start soon.

 

[Sharoneonta]

Is it customary for LE to be so quiet? I've asked before but my question has gone unanswered.

It seems to me the community usually gets more information.

 

[krey]

Is it customary for LE to be so quiet? I've asked before but my question has gone unanswered.

It seems to me the community usually gets more information.

I've asked myself this question many times, too, and I don't really know the answer. It seems very odd, though, that LE has barely said a word. And it's been how long since they've said anything at all? I just don't get it.

 

[Caring4Many]

Farmers wife-the route you said you used to bypass Norwich I've added a map & points used to map it in my albums. Could you check if that's the route you were referring to?

I made the album public for all that want to see, it look like if you wanted to go from JRs home & avoid town you could take this route & avoid passing the location of the minivan 2x but still reach the phones location.