Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 5

[sleepinoz]

How much blood is typically involved in a nosebleed?

How old is the blood stain?

Bottom line: The blood in question is either the child's or Jennifer's.

IMO, the DNA will show the blood stain (a larger spot of blood) in the vehicle belongs to Jennifer, not the child.

IMO the nosebleed story is being put up to used as a legal defence if he ever needs one. You know - her blood is there from a nose bleed not from when she met with foul play.............

 

[Janeumayer]

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“What does that have to do with anything,?” he [GR] said about the tryst.

http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1503756987/Report-Blood-found-in-missing-womans-van

Probably more pertinent than Jennifer using Lite Italian Vinaigrette Dressing on her salads and eating Boston Creme Doughnuts has to do with the current situation!

 

[Clayton]

I wonder if JR's father saw any blood in the car when he found it?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Thank you very much for this post IHAVENOCLUE. I had to stop posting and step away from this thread way back when the back and forth started...I thought it I would get a better handle on things and why the husband was being supported so ferociously. I have read along and just admire everyone here on their logical minds and wonderful hearts....

Now on to "trysts" and "nosebleeds"......

I know someone who does something wrong tries to make it sound like it was much less than it was....so yes...a one night thing.....so if he lied about this...what else is he lying about we would have to say....

Blood found in the car...I almost fell over....if you had a spouse in this situation...would you not...absolutely go look at the car to see for yourself what condition it was in.....

I am on my iPad... And I don't know how to embolden in these newfangled technologies...

But your statement regarding when a person is caught in a lie ... Then it is human nature to start questioning other statements from that person...

"Once fooled.... shame on you...... Twice fooled shame on me...."

JMO

 

[LadyBugSTL]

Still under the weather (cannot beat this Strep!) - but reading and cheering all of you on!!! All you'se "armchair detectives" :detective: just {{{rock}}}}!!! :rocker:

Personally, (from *my armchair detective point of view) Me thinks the door to the truth has opened a bit wider the last 48 hours, and it won't be long before the full truth comes tumbling uncontrollably out!

I am so hoping that the answer as to Jen's whereabouts comes tumbling out with it!!!!! rayer:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I was going thru old articles and found this...

http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman
Jennifer Renz Ramsaran, the 36-year-old stay-at-home mom missing for a week under suspicious circumstances, had begun discussing the possibility of separating from her husband and had made new online gaming friends through her iPhone account, a family friend said Tuesday.


BBM...

I hadn't read that before. Did GR every speak about this? I wonder who the family friend is?

And if true maybe its because she found out about that 'one night stand' or a 6 month affair that just ended shortly before she ended up missing.

Thank you for bringing this article back "to the table", so to speak...

I thought it was very interesting that this "friend" ... So early in the case.... Was so accommodating to provide such sensitive information regarding Jennifer.... Yet would not divulge his/her OWN name....

and I,too,am curious about who this friend is....

But I have a very good idea...


:waitasec:

 

[LadyBugSTL]

BBM...

I had to look up the word tryst, lol. what an odd word to use.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tryst
tryst (trst)
n.
1. An agreement, as between lovers, to meet at a certain time and place.
2. A meeting or meeting place that has been agreed on. See Synonyms at engagement.
intr.v. tryst·ed, tryst·ing, trysts
To keep a tryst.

To me it sounded as if that "old-fashioned" word was used to minimize the "incident" and make it sound old-fashioned and chaste...... to deflect.

When I think "tryst", I think of "meeting under the rose arbor in the moonlight for a few impassioned moments of kissing", not a 6 month long affair with one's wife's best friend.......jmo

 

[sleepinoz]

Thank you for bringing this article back "to the table", so to speak...

I thought it was very interesting that this "friend" ... So early in the case.... Was so accommodating to provide such sensitive information regarding Jennifer.... Yet would not divulge his/her OWN name....

and I,too,am curious about who this friend is....

But I have a very good idea...


:waitasec:

Someone with a trysted interest perhaps :waitasec:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

He says "I'll leave it at that" a lot. Here's a couple more instances..





BBM

Yes... It seems that GR has a conversational style that begins with a leading idea... Then the sentence is cut short... Leaving the listener wondering about rest of the statement...

I find this to be passive/aggressive behavior... The intent of the statement may not be clear... But the judgemental attitude behind it is VERY clear...

and... He can defend himself by saying... "Well... I did not give out any negative information"...

When in fact... The approach taken makes the statement weigh heavier than had the statement been said completely...

JMO

 

[LadyBugSTL]

deflection

:twocents:

Absolutely - deflection, constant, right and left.....very concerning

 

[imamaze]

To me it sounded as if that "old-fashioned" word was used to minimize the "incident" and make it sound old-fashioned and chaste...... to deflect.

When I think "tryst", I think of "meeting under the rose arbor in the moonlight for a few impassioned moments of kissing", not a 6 month long affair with one's wife's best friend.......jmo

Yea I agree, and even if it was a one night stand that is still more than a tryst imo. I do think its to minimize and that is what they have done since the affair came out, of course I don't believe its a one night stand either.

How can you use drinking as a partial excuse and then call it a tryst? It doesn't make any sense to me. With your wife's best friend?

 

[nursebeeme]

I was going thru old articles and found this...

http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman
Jennifer Renz Ramsaran, the 36-year-old stay-at-home mom missing for a week under suspicious circumstances, had begun discussing the possibility of separating from her husband and had made new online gaming friends through her iPhone account, a family friend said Tuesday.


BBM...

I hadn't read that before. Did GR every speak about this? I wonder who the family friend is?

And if true maybe its because she found out about that 'one night stand' or a 6 month affair that just ended shortly before she ended up missing.

The friend is my guess.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

IMO the nosebleed story is being put up to used as a legal defence if he ever needs one. You know - her blood is there from a nose bleed not from when she met with foul play.............

And please tell me, GR ...What woman would let her nose bleed all over the interior of her car... Staining it forever... When she probably has extra Starbuck's napkins in the glove compartment.... Or a t-shirt sleeve to wipe it on before staining the interior of a car???

Especially if she is prone to nosebleeds... I imagine she would have SOME kind of clean-up products with her in her purse/car/pocket to be prepared...

:waitasec:

 

[Tennlyn]

“It was not an affair,” said Caron, who noted Ganesh Ramsaran has been tormented by what she called false rumors that he was having an extramarital affair.

Isn't that a contradiction? False rumours? How are they false rumours when in the same article GR admits to sleeping with JR's friend? I don't care if they call it a "tryst" or a "one night stand" that IS an affair.

Caron, responding to questions from The Daily Star, also said Ganesh Ramsaran admitted to police after his wife disappeared that he had a “one-time” sexual encounter with a woman who is a mutual friend of both Ganesh and Jennifer Ramsaran.
Caron also insisted that Jennifer Ramsaran never knew about the tryst her husband had with her close friend.

Okay so it happened after Jennifer disappeared?? But then the next sentence says Jennifer didn't know about it? Well if it happened after Jennifer disappeared of course she wouldn't know about it and there would be no need to say that.


http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1503756987/Report-Blood-found-in-missing-womans-van

The first time I read it, I thought that the one-nighter was after Jen disappeared. Then when I reread it, I thought GR confessed to LE after Jen disappeared. It's poorly written, IMO.

Nonetheless, I don't believe it was either a one-nighter, nor do I believe it is over. :furious:

 

[nursebeeme]

BBM...

I had to look up the word tryst, lol. what an odd word to use.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tryst
tryst (trst)
n.
1. An agreement, as between lovers, to meet at a certain time and place.
2. A meeting or meeting place that has been agreed on. See Synonyms at engagement.
intr.v. tryst·ed, tryst·ing, trysts
To keep a tryst.

That makes that choice of word all the more interesting

 

[LolaAngelina]

Someone with a trysted interest perhaps :waitasec:

:floorlaugh:

 

[enzeder]

Thank you for bringing this article back "to the table", so to speak...

I thought it was very interesting that this "friend" ... So early in the case.... Was so accommodating to provide such sensitive information regarding Jennifer.... Yet would not divulge his/her OWN name....

and I,too,am curious about who this friend is....

But I have a very good idea...


:waitasec:

I would like to know who this anonymous friend of the family is too. Like you, I have a very good idea of who it might be. Most likely the same friend who spoke on the condition of anonymity in article quoted below. imo

January 19, 2013

A friend of the family, speaking on the condition of anonymity, has said that Jennifer Ramsaran frequently played online games with strangers.

http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1746080614/Sheriff-Dont-inhibit-missing-mom-search/print

 

[LolaAngelina]

The first time I read it, I thought that the one-nighter was after Jen disappeared. Then when I reread it, I thought GR confessed to LE after Jen disappeared. It's poorly written, IMO.

Nonetheless, I don't believe it was either a one-nighter, nor do I believe it is over. :furious:

Ah yes I see that now, thanks for that. Yes either way we all know it was an affair and is still ongoing.

 

[Caring4Many]

He says "I'll leave it at that" a lot. Here's a couple more instances..





BBM

This to me says-"No comment" "I plead the 5th" etc etc

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I wonder if JR's father saw any blood in the car when he found it?

Ohhh Clayton....

that is a VERY good question...

I wonder if Jenn's dad had a chance to check out the interior of the car before it was handed over to the police ?

this may not be TOS, Mods... So,delete if you need to...

but I,have a,theory that GR "guided" his FIL,to,where the minivan was parked so that it would not look like GR was the one who actually found BOTH the phone...,AND the van....

He may have not wanted to look too suspicious...,so he may have said something like.."Hey, FIL...,why don't you check out that apt. parking lot right by the freeway... And I will look at the (fill in the blank store) parking lot over here... And we will call each other if we find anything!"

And miracles of miracles... The car is found... By FIL!

JMO