Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 5

[Jilllian]

Originally Posted by Lavanda Dolce
"Important thoughts to Ponder"

Let's, for a moment, take a path of possibilities with me...for those who wish to follow along here to help me find some answers or thoughts.

• I personally do not believe JR made it to the mall. Merely because of the locations of the cell phone and van.

~ RSBM

Ok. So she doesn't believe JR made it to the mall. Fair enough. Neither do most people around here. So why solicit funds for a billboard that will be put up in Syracuse by 03/04/13? Why not act on the FREE billboards that were offered LOCALLY?

 

[Caring4Many]

And please tell me, GR ...What woman would let her nose bleed all over the interior of her car... Staining it forever... When she probably has extra Starbuck's napkins in the glove compartment.... Or a t-shirt sleeve to wipe it on before staining the interior of a car???

Especially if she is prone to nosebleeds... I imagine she would have SOME kind of clean-up products with her in her purse/car/pocket to be prepared...

:waitasec:

Especially one that is a mother of 3 kids& crafty? I'm sure she if there was any truth in this she had a "kit" of some sort. She probably also had extra napkins in the vehicle -dont most parents? Just all pure hogwash IMO...

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Still under the weather (cannot beat this Strep!) - but reading and cheering all of you on!!! All you'se "armchair detectives" :detective: just {{{rock}}}}!!! :rocker:

Personally, (from *my armchair detective point of view) Me thinks the door to the truth has opened a bit wider the last 48 hours, and it won't be long before the full truth comes tumbling uncontrollably out!

I am so hoping that the answer as to Jen's whereabouts comes tumbling out with it!!!!! rayer:

I hope you feel better soon, LadyBugSTL! :grouphug:

:nurse:

thank you for cheering us on! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Someone with a trysted interest perhaps :waitasec:

Touché !

:giggle:

 

[Tennlyn]

I would like to know who this anonymous friend of the family is too. Like you, I have a very good idea of who it might be. Most likely the same friend who spoke on the condition of anonymity in article quoted below. imo

And what does the anonymous friend know about what really happened to Jen?

ETA: Is this bumping up against TOS?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

The first time I read it, I thought that the one-nighter was after Jen disappeared. Then when I reread it, I thought GR confessed to LE after Jen disappeared. It's poorly written, IMO.

Nonetheless, I don't believe it was either a one-nighter, nor do I believe it is over. :furious:

And for all we know...they may be trysting right now...as we speak! :what:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I would like to know who this anonymous friend of the family is too. Like you, I have a very good idea of who it might be. Most likely the same friend who spoke on the condition of anonymity in article quoted below. imo

Oh my.... This trusted, anonymous friend certainly gets around... doesn't s/he...

and what juicy tidbits of information this trusted..... Anonymous....,friend provides for the press....

Hmmmmm? :waitasec:

 

[Jilllian]

Maybe someone can refresh my memory... But does LD have a Psychologist and/or a Psychiatrist Certification?

...arm chair psychology graduate degree?

:escape:

 

[enzeder]

And for all we know...they may be trysting right now...as we speak! :what:

*shudder*

 

[MissieMt]

Sooo, let me get this straight....He didn't actually SEE the blood in the van, but he thinks it's safe to assume it's from a nose bleed? Does he never ride in that van? Because I would think the only way he could have not seen that blood is if
A. He never rode in the van to see the stain from a previous nosebleed
or
B. That "nosebleed" happened when JR was out mudding in the family van that day... You know, right before she decided to ditch her phone, dump her car in a low income apartment parking lot, and run off with her "new man" for a two and a half month "Tryst".
Yeahhhh, that's it!!! She's just having a "tryst"! Settle down folks....nothing to see here.
Sounds Legit, so I'm just gonna leave it at that.

 

[marlywings]

Just a quick question...was the van the only car they owned or did they have another??

 

[sleepinoz]

Just a quick question...was the van the only car they owned or did they have another??

They have another - photos are available on GR's FB

 

[fringles]

Sooo, let me get this straight....He didn't actually SEE the blood in the van, but he thinks it's safe to assume it's from a nose bleed? Does he never ride in that van? Because I would think the only way he could have not seen that blood is if
A. He never rode in the van to see the stain from a previous nosebleed
or
B. That "nosebleed" happened when JR was out mudding in the family van that day... You know, right before she decided to ditch her phone, dump her car in a low income apartment parking lot, and run off with her "new man" for a two and a half month "Tryst".
Yeahhhh, that's it!!! She's just having a "tryst"! Settle down folks....nothing to see here.
Sounds Legit, so I'm just gonna leave it at that.

I heartily heartily approve of everything in this post

 

[sleepinoz]

IIRC - LD commented a while ago that a 'drop' of blood was found on the rear seat of the van and explained it away with the nose bleed theory - for the life of me I can't find it. Anyone else remember?

IIRC - but this contradicts what she has said here:

https://m.facebook.com/116018661901...05600&wend=1362124799&ustart&__user=777057067

..that it has never been confirmed by LE......if this is so, why confirm to the reporter???

 

[LadyBugSTL]

Ohhh Clayton....

that is a VERY good question...

I wonder if Jenn's dad had a chance to check out the interior of the car before it was handed over to the police ?

this may not be TOS, Mods... So,delete if you need to...

but I,have a,theory that GR "guided" his FIL,to,where the minivan was parked so that it would not look like GR was the one who actually found BOTH the phone...,AND the van....
He may have not wanted to look too suspicious...,so he may have said something like.."Hey, FIL...,why don't you check out that apt. parking lot right by the freeway... And I will look at the (fill in the blank store) parking lot over here... And we will call each other if we find anything!"

And miracles of miracles... The car is found... By FIL!

JMO

Now this, is a theory I absolutely share! When you think about it, to date - every key piece of information as it pertains to Jennifer and that fateful day, what she was wearing, when she left; where she was going, has come from GR. It was GR who has described Jen's mental status, mentioned her weight loss and GR who miraculously found her phone......

It has been GR who has been behind all the info LD as been releasing; I imagine he has total say in what info is being released by her organization and the related FB page. It is when the control as to what information released is out of someones hands that we're seeing the "ripples", and condemnation, targeting even other family members reaching out to other organizations or persons for assistance in locating their loved one.

I absolutely believe there is a very high likelihood that you are correct, that the idea to search that parking lot or that area for Jen's van was "planted".

I very much look forward to the release of information from LE, whenever they are ready for that to happen, and I hope that it is very soon. It will be our first pieces of information from a source other than GR......

 

[Hexe]

IIRC - LD commented a while ago that a 'drop' of blood was found on the rear seat of the van and explained it away with the nose bleed theory - for the life of me I can't find it. Anyone else remember?

IIRC - but this contradicts what she has said here:

https://m.facebook.com/116018661901...05600&wend=1362124799&ustart&__user=777057067

..that it has never been confirmed by LE......if this is so, why confirm to the reporter???

Out of fear that someone might release that info? GR confirming it could at least try to control the damage (It was just a nosebleed! No foul play here!).

 

[cluciano63]

I don't think it is a good policy for a Missing Persons org. to take as fact what a family member of a victim says, especially when family member is painting victim in a negative light.

 

[LadyBugSTL]

Especially one that is a mother of 3 kids& crafty? I'm sure she if there was any truth in this she had a "kit" of some sort. She probably also had extra napkins in the vehicle -dont most parents? Just all pure hogwash IMO...

Kids = runny noses & spilled stuff....always & forever.......lots of them. Willing to bet there were at least 3 kleenex boxes worth of napkins, etc tucked all over the place in that van!!!! Bloodstains just left there after a bloody nose?? NO.

If there is blood there - will be very easy for LE to know whose it is. They're going to want to match it to Jens & if it's not a match to her - then everyone in the house - and if it's not a match to any of them that's when they'd run it to see if it's a match outside the family.......

ETA - Also - if there were bloodstains found - *where they were found inside the van could be of key importance as well........

 

[Caring4Many]

I noticed that while the site was updated, a certain page wasn't.....

http://jenniferramsaran.blogspot.com/p/news-links.html

IMO if the organization was one supporting the victim, no matter how they went missing, they would be including every article available to make sure all info given to the media covered. It is however my opinion that the focus is too much on one family member & not the victim. While I understand supporting the family, if it conflicts with supporting your victim I don't see how that continues. What am I missing?

Btw I know LD didnt like victim but I'm sorry IMO those that go missing are all considered victims. Calling them anything else is doing them & their case a disservice. Once recovered (or evidence states otherwise) you can deem them otherwise. (Survivor, missing on own intent, etc)
Again-all JMO

 

[sleepinoz]

The Defense team is now commenting in MSM:

http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1503756987/Report-Blood-found-in-missing-womans-van