Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 6

[IHAVENOCLUE]

BBM - I highly doubt that!
I have just caught up (damn time difference!)
So in the last day or so GR has been doing more interviews, posting continually all over the net, his main focus being targetting the daily star for their
'untruthful" article, posting his video interview anywhere and everywhere.
Now it's confirmed he calls the media to let them know and then posts thanking all businesses involved in the search (he posted that as if it's all over now, thanks everyone :what
Are these the actions of an innocent and loving man??? :waitasec:

Who wants to bet we are now going to see billboards in New Berlin, Norwich, and neighboring cities .....

Only with someone ELSE's picture and "story" on it...

and probably with muscles showing...

:waitasec:

 

[thefox]

thefox, would you describe what you saw, please. fox, when snow melts and refreezes, it turns to ice. My info says that there was excavating equipment used in the body removal and had mechanical failure due to the iced formed around the body.

I just don't see it being needed. No salt is used here and any ice that cold have formed cold have easily been chipped or shoveled away and I would say it was impossible that that snow bank would have caused a piece of excavating equipment to fail unless it was destined for failure.

I saw no ice but a blue tarp was in use to cover up the scene. It would seem that any equipment heavier than a round point shovel and spud would cause more disruption that it would help.

 

[robinsj2]

What ever happened to private grieving? What possible reason would there be for giving TV interviews at this moment? Why does the world have to be in on this private moment? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to close the door and be alone with your family and let the authorities deal with the media and the disemination of facts and questions.

Maybe the perp is ES's estranged husband who was enraged by the affair and wanted to punish GR. Hows that for outside the box.

ES's husband is not estranged. They are still together.

 

[LolaAngelina]

ES's husband is not estranged. They are still together.

:welcome6: robinsj2

 

[pinkshoemama]

I don't mean to get insensitive here but recalling the "fold up seat" mentioned before. That is in the back correct. There are certain things a body does after
death that could get messy right? I'm thinking what if this was a death by poison or suffocation & the perp put her in the back & such events occurred. Meanwhile they cleaned up most other things but forgot the part under the seat. Ehhh I'm really hesitating even saying this....

I am also extremely curious about poisoning specific to Jen.

 

[MissieMt]

Since he's giving so many interviews now, is it safe to assume the investigation is over? That was his "big" reason for not talking to the media before, wasn't it?

I just have to wonder if LE doesn't know how much of a show boater he is. Maybe LE initially discouraged him from talking to the media. But maybe once they saw how much him and CC were willing to reveal to media, maybe LE decided to let him sink his own ship??

 

[keyleigh]

sorry i don't know how to snip, but he calls that the "remy pose". He posted that on one of his friends facebook pages this week.

Lol. For real? I want to barf.

I have another question- how many victims are found naked, if the crime isn't sexually motivated? And how many of those are perpetrated by a stranger v someone known to the victim? There would be a shame element to leaving a victim naked yes?

 

[Caring4Many]

sorry i don't know how to snip, but he calls that the "remy pose". He posted that on one of his friends facebook pages this week.

:what: Apparently I missed the koolaid truck...I am NOT drinking it!

 

[Foxfire]

I just don't see it being needed. No salt is used here and any ice that cold have formed cold have easily been chipped or shoveled away and I would say it was impossible that that snow bank would have caused a piece of excavating equipment to fail unless it was destined for failure.

I saw no ice but a blue tarp was in use to cover up the scene. It would seem that any equipment heavier than a round point shovel and spud would cause more disruption that it would help.

thefox, I disagree, the snow bank from the snowplow has thawed and refrozen for over 10 weeks now.. The info that I have is from on the scene the night she was recovered.. Excavating equipment was used in her removal, according to very credible sources. As you can imagine this would create a very delicate operation to avoid disturbing evidence; forensic & other.

 

[yupikgirl]

Lol. For real? I want to barf.

I have another question- how many victims are found naked, if the crime isn't sexually motivated? And how many of those are perpetrated by a stranger v someone known to the victim? There would be a shame element to leaving a victim naked yes?

here ya go uke:

I know I can't link it, but he has lots of friends on facebook that are public so you can see what he comments on all over the place!

 

[AnJ11811]

HI All,

I've been following this story since the very beginning, having found out about it on FB by it being shared on a friend of a friends page. Needless to say, I became very intrigued. I found WS when I was googling around for updates on JR. I haven't said much but have been more of a silent cheerleader for everyone doing so much for Jennifer! So before anything else, thank you to all of you!

I'd like to share my heartache for this poor woman. It makes me sick that she was just dumped out there, like garbage, naked and alone. It makes my heart hurt! :-(

From the very beginning my gut told me that this woman was not alive and would not be found alive. I just somehow knew she didn't run away. My gut also told me from the beginning that something was seriously wrong with GR. Something just never sat right....I didn't like the sound (look?) of his FB postings, I didn't like his perceived persona in pictures and I didn't like the sad look on JR's face in many photos I stalked before they made everything private. I have an opinion about what happened, but I'm unsure of the limits here....so I won't say too much just yet.


Geez, I have so much to say as I read through the posts and then forget all when the time comes to spill it out!! Bear with me, please....but my hope is to help contribute with ideas in the days to come....

Thanks for listening to me babble.

 

[Sharoneonta]

I have an O/T question for some of the longtime Websleuthers:
Have family/spouses come here for help in the past? I can't help but think if I was in the position "he" is in that I would be more than happy to have you guys HELP me prove my innocence.

 

[Caring4Many]

I am also extremely curious about poisoning specific to Jen.

Agreed. I'm honestly curious if there's any possibility if any of her previous medical conditions could be attributed to poisoning. Maybe this was an over time thing? Or a lets see what will do the trick...but then again she was on so many different meds I'm sure something would conflict with it.

There are obviously different options we can entertain here, this is just one of them first I think of when they say "toxicology tests" and "no songs of foul play" but the previous to her going missing was something I'd thought prior to today.

 

[robinsj2]

Glutton for punishment- at least until he sees the MSM article that states he is the reason why they did not want the affair exposed...poor guy

I haven't figured out what MSM means but would like to read whatever you are talking about!

 

[nanasbabes]

I'd like to hear how many hrs GR was actually looking for his missing wife. He never talked about looking for her other than finding the phone. Which btw today I had no service at the location where the phone was found.

Me either. I lose cell service around the CR 44 and don't get it back till around Cortlandville.

nanasbabes; did you take pics? , ask your husband to join us. He seems insightful as do you..:slap:
He seems to be very familiar with the area. This is very important, imo.. Of course, he will be consumed too and y'all will not get anything done...

Although we see with our eyes, we all see different things..based on life experiences and instincts, etc..

I just told him that and he giggled! It was his idea to get me there but i didnt get pics today only seen a older gentleman on a tractor up there and didn't stop. He had the look on his face like "really more cars" lol. We do have family on that road as well that was questioned about traffic tuesday after 4, by the police. The only thing they said was a red truck was up there by there house a few times, that they didn't see before. HOPE WE ALL CAN GET THE TRUTH SOON! HOPING HE WILL BREAK!

 

[LolaAngelina]

HI All,

I've been following this story since the very beginning, having found out about it on FB by it being shared on a friend of a friends page. Needless to say, I became very intrigued. I found WS when I was googling around for updates on JR. I haven't said much but have been more of a silent cheerleader for everyone doing so much for Jennifer! So before anything else, thank you to all of you!

I'd like to share my heartache for this poor woman. It makes me sick that she was just dumped out there, like garbage, naked and alone. It makes my heart hurt! :-(

From the very beginning my gut told me that this woman was not alive and would not be found alive. I just somehow knew she didn't run away. My gut also told me from the beginning that something was seriously wrong with GR. Something just never sat right....I didn't like the sound (look?) of his FB postings, I didn't like his perceived persona in pictures and I didn't like the sad look on JR's face in many photos I stalked before they made everything private. I have an opinion about what happened, but I'm unsure of the limits here....so I won't say too much just yet.


Geez, I have so much to say as I read through the posts and then forget all when the time comes to spill it out!! Bear with me, please....but my hope is to help contribute with ideas in the days to come....

Thanks for listening to be babble.

:welcome4:
BBM
I couldn't agree more with that. It makes me so sad to think of there (or wherever she has been) the whole time her parents have been searching for her
btw - We all babble here, it's the best place for it!

 

[Sharoneonta]

I'm curious how there was blood but no trauma.

Postmortem nose bleed due to strangulation.

(Sorry so blunt) :-(

 

[Caring4Many]

:welcome6::welcome6:

HI All,

I've been following this story since the very beginning, having found out about it on FB by it being shared on a friend of a friends page. Needless to say, I became very intrigued. I found WS when I was googling around for updates on JR. I haven't said much but have been more of a silent cheerleader for everyone doing so much for Jennifer! So before anything else, thank you to all of you!

I'd like to share my heartache for this poor woman. It makes me sick that she was just dumped out there, like garbage, naked and alone. It makes my heart hurt! :-(

From the very beginning my gut told me that this woman was not alive and would not be found alive. I just somehow knew she didn't run away. My gut also told me from the beginning that something was seriously wrong with GR. Something just never sat right....I didn't like the sound (look?) of his FB postings, I didn't like his perceived persona in pictures and I didn't like the sad look on JR's face in many photos I stalked before they made everything private. I have an opinion about what happened, but I'm unsure of the limits here....so I won't say too much just yet.


Geez, I have so much to say as I read through the posts and then forget all when the time comes to spill it out!! Bear with me, please....but my hope is to help contribute with ideas in the days to come....

Thanks for listening to be babble.

:welcome6: to you & all our new members!

 

[ksprincess]

What is up with cc repeatedly using the term "earthly body"! I have never heard this term before and think it's odd that she uses it in almost every fb posting.

I also seriously hope that GR is arrested before they have her funeral because I have no doubt he will turn the whole thing into a circus that revolves around him and hurt Jennifer's family in the process.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Where are the children? Are they with him sitting by watching these blurb fests or what?

I don't think he knows where his,kids are...

He still hasn't had a chance to talk with them yet.... With all the interviews and such...you know...

:waiting: