Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 8

[GhostEyes]

Here is another site of Jenns that i found that someone must not have known about or decided not to delete. Theres not much info on it unless someone knows her login info to see her connections. I logged in that site with my login but that doesnt tell me anything.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jennifer-ramsaran/4a/490/157

Who knows when this was created. I did many seaches after her disappearance and this never came up. There were a few other hits with linkedin with her name, but not this one. It probably was created after her disappearance by someone. You know just like the supposed "other" FB account. How would anyone other than JR or GR know her login info? Plus, I thought GR had all her login info., why would he leave this active - it doesn't make sense. Also, I question if she would have posted a pic of herself w/ GR in the background, especially since they were having problems. If I were choosing a photo of myself to place on a "professional" website, I certainly would put up a professional photo. This is not. It's not likely that she opened this account, in my opinion. JR would most likely know this since she was employed before and is educated with a college degree.

 

[GhostEyes]

Ability to harness the internet is a powerful tool. It can give the illusion of more supporters than may actually exist.

Especially when you are computer savy and can manipulate things on the Internet better than most. GR is a project manager for IBM, and probably has a lot of friends and resources to manipulate the public if he wants. I think we give the benefit of the doubt to people, it's the right thing to do. It's better to think of good than evil. You get burned, but who wants to go around being paranoid. It would be interesting to know if GR has a criminal past. I remember reading someone's post on a website and the person stated that he went to school with GR and <modsnip> My question is what is in his past? Does GR have a history of criminal behavior (i.e. domestic abuse, sexual assault, etc.)? Was this guy just making things up in his post, or is there something to it. My interpretation was that he has done some bad things in his past.

 

[krey]

Especially when you are computer savy and can manipulate things on the Internet better than most. GR is a project manager for IBM, and probably has a lot of friends and resources to manipulate the public if he wants. I think we give the benefit of the doubt to people, it's the right thing to do. It's better to think of good than evil. You get burned, but who wants to go around being paranoid. It would be interesting to know if GR has a criminal past. I remember reading someone's post on a website and the person stated that he went to school with GR and <modsnip> My question is what is in his past? Does GR have a history of criminal behavior (i.e. domestic abuse, sexual assault, etc.)? Was this guy just making things up in his post, or is there something to it. My interpretation was that he has done some bad things in his past.

Hi GhostEyes, welcome to the thread! Good first posts :great:

Would love to hear your theory on what might have happened to Jennifer, if you feel comfortable sharing.

 

[keyleigh]

Perhaps some mornings he took them and some she did. I have Fibromyalgia and nights can be awful and it can make mornings rough. Jmo.

I'm the same, except it's RA. My mornings can be hit and miss. Gentle hugs to you. X

 

[horsenaround60]

Who knows when this was created. I did many seaches after her disappearance and this never came up. There were a few other hits with linkedin with her name, but not this one. It probably was created after her disappearance by someone. You know just like the supposed "other" FB account. How would anyone other than JR or GR know her login info? Plus, I thought GR had all her login info., why would he leave this active - it doesn't make sense. Also, I question if she would have posted a pic of herself w/ GR in the background, especially since they were having problems. If I were choosing a photo of myself to place on a "professional" website, I certainly would put up a professional photo. This is not. It's not likely that she opened this account, in my opinion. JR would most likely know this since she was employed before and is educated with a college degree.

But why would someone else create this in her name especially after she became missing? I found this on the Roadrunner search. It would be interesting to know when this site was made. GR might not have even known about this site or maybe she used a different login? I dont think this site was made recently as the picture of her doesnt show her recent weight loss.

 

[LolaAngelina]

Who knows when this was created. I did many seaches after her disappearance and this never came up. There were a few other hits with linkedin with her name, but not this one. It probably was created after her disappearance by someone. You know just like the supposed "other" FB account. How would anyone other than JR or GR know her login info? Plus, I thought GR had all her login info., why would he leave this active - it doesn't make sense. Also, I question if she would have posted a pic of herself w/ GR in the background, especially since they were having problems. If I were choosing a photo of myself to place on a "professional" website, I certainly would put up a professional photo. This is not. It's not likely that she opened this account, in my opinion. JR would most likely know this since she was employed before and is educated with a college degree.

BBM
I have heard nothing about another fb page? Do you mean for JR?

 

[Sparky]

Sorry if these have already been posted. I looked, but wasn't able to find anything. If it comes up to a search, just enter the last name.

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.g...sults.asp?lastName=ramsaran&FirstName=&bName=

 

[SouthAussie]

Thanks Sparky ... very interesting!

 

[LolaAngelina]

Sorry if these have already been posted. I looked, but wasn't able to find anything. If it comes up to a search, just enter the last name.

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.g...sults.asp?lastName=ramsaran&FirstName=&bName=

Thankyou Sparky, I haven't seen those before

 

[lovinglife]

lovinglife: Thanks for this new info. :tyou:....I don't recall your previous posts, but you seem to have some insider info based on this post. Perhaps you could get verified?

Pob: Thanks for this info....:tyou:

I have many friends at the Y. This is about all I can contribute. Wish I knew more...

 

[Caring4Many]

Here is another site of Jenns that i found that someone must not have known about or decided not to delete. Theres not much info on it unless someone knows her login info to see her connections. I logged in that site with my login but that doesnt tell me anything.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jennifer-ramsaran/4a/490/157

Who knows when this was created. I did many seaches after her disappearance and this never came up. There were a few other hits with linkedin with her name, but not this one. It probably was created after her disappearance by someone. You know just like the supposed "other" FB account. How would anyone other than JR or GR know her login info? Plus, I thought GR had all her login info., why would he leave this active - it doesn't make sense. Also, I question if she would have posted a pic of herself w/ GR in the background, especially since they were having problems. If I were choosing a photo of myself to place on a "professional" website, I certainly would put up a professional photo. This is not. It's not likely that she opened this account, in my opinion. JR would most likely know this since she was employed before and is educated with a college degree.

I just wanted to mention that I have seen this before. I use LinkedIn all the time & had looked Jennifer up awhile back before knowing she was a SAHM. This was also why I was surprised to hear she had a position as a home health care provider as its not listed. She only has 3 connections so it wasn't used very much as a tool.

As for the photo, I know a lot of people that use different types of photos on their profiles. Especially ones that have lost weight, or people that are upset over gaining weight, instead of using a current photo they will use one for when they were smaller, or use one that while isn't professional presents them in the best light. I have some contacts that still use their Senior pictures because they're SAHM & are just looking to connect while selling Tupperware or something like that. I'm not saying that this is the case, just thinking that its a likely option is all. My guess is that with the phone records-LE will be able to tell.

 

[Caring4Many]

After i read your post, i got the idea that the phone may have been in a pocket of some clothing that was thrown out and the phone fell out on the road as the clothing was tossed. I wonder if anyone has looked under the bridge or in the water for discarded articles of clothing near the spot where the phone was found? Just a thought...?

I still think the dumpster was most convenient, probable never got dressed so it was all tossed into a grocery bag or something similar & tossed into the dumpster when the van was left at the apartments. JMO though...

 

[Abigail]

Jillian, I don't remember it being that warm either

I raised my eyebrows when I saw the Farmer's Almanac listing 51 as the high that day. But I don't have any emails from anyone in Chenango Co. for that week -- just the next week, when my friend said it was "warm" -- in the 40's, but the temperature was expected to drop the next day. And then I had a lot of emails from family, sending snow photos and such, because I was NOT having a white Christmas, and was depressed!!

 

[lovinglife]

Sorry if these have already been posted. I looked, but wasn't able to find anything. If it comes up to a search, just enter the last name.

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.g...sults.asp?lastName=ramsaran&FirstName=&bName=

Interesting...Looking at the dates on these, I believe they moved to NY right after??? Trying to remember the year they moved-saw it in an earlier post. And didn't someone say their home is part of a trust? Can trusts be touched if someone is sued? I'm not legal-saavy. This brings up the life insurance theory again to me. I think money was an issue (not necessarily lack of) for GR. It was said that he didn't become the girl scout leader because he didn't want the background check done, indicating he has something to hide or is ashamed of. He didn't offer a reward, didn't donate to the billboard....I think there is something here. Can anyone else add anything to this line of thinking?:waitasec:

 

[Abigail]

you had to stop your car and look over the bank to see the tote. hoping to here from them today.

OK, I know that at this point in time, there's a lot of snow on the ground, but I wonder if you had to stop your car and look over the bank to see the tote if you had to do the same to see the body, even before the snow set in?

And, btw, I don't remember seeing the tote in ORR video

 

[SouthAussie]

Interesting...Looking at the dates on these, I believe they moved to NY right after??? Trying to remember the year they moved-saw it in an earlier post. And didn't someone say their home is part of a trust? Can trusts be touched if someone is sued? I'm not legal-saavy. This brings up the life insurance theory again to me. I think money was an issue (not necessarily lack of) for GR. It was said that he didn't become the girl scout leader because he didn't want the background check done, indicating he has something to hide or is ashamed of. He didn't offer a reward, didn't donate to the billboard....I think there is something here. Can anyone else add anything to this line of thinking?:waitasec:

Vehicles are older ... hasn't hired an attorney ($)

 

[nanasbabes]

OK, I know that at this point in time, there's a lot of snow on the ground, but I wonder if you had to stop your car and look over the bank to see the tote if you had to do the same to see the body, even before the snow set in?

And, btw, I don't remember seeing the tote in ORR video

In ORR video the tote was to the left of the pic.LE did call back and said they did see it and it wasn't part of the scene, so they didn't take it. the tote was about 10 feet away from were the JRs body was located. IMO you would have to stop if she was closer to the road, at bottom of bank.

 

[Caring4Many]

Interesting...Looking at the dates on these, I believe they moved to NY right after??? Trying to remember the year they moved-saw it in an earlier post. And didn't someone say their home is part of a trust? Can trusts be touched if someone is sued? I'm not legal-saavy. This brings up the life insurance theory again to me. I think money was an issue (not necessarily lack of) for GR. It was said that he didn't become the girl scout leader because he didn't want the background check done, indicating he has something to hide or is ashamed of. He didn't offer a reward, didn't donate to the billboard....I think there is something here. Can anyone else add anything to this line of thinking?:waitasec:

There are a few questions still outstanding that will be hard to pin down with the life insurance. IBM has standard policies that every employee is given for themselves and family members. However you can add on additional funds question is:
1-Was that something that was contributed to?
2- If so when-at the time of employment? Recently?
3-Does IBM allow for this to be altered at any time? Say life event like marriage, child birth, or simply at each open enrollment period? This ability may also vary by employment date if it was a privilege that was ended & some employees were grandfathered in-seems to be a new trend to cut costs.
4-Was their an additional life insurance policy on top of the employee benefit?

All of these may be answers that we may not be able to pin down. However, they are things that LE could look into for possible motive.

 

[robinsj2]

in response to Epiphany

What is being denied?

- that there was a one-time sexual encounter

- that there was ever an "affair"

- that there is current involvement

- All of the Above?

all of the above

 

[terracotta]

On the list of things (supposedly) about Jennifer it was written she was not a morning person. And RickBlaine staded it was GR who usually drove the kids to school.

Thank you Hexe, I thought I had read it somewhere...so it was on "the list" of not being a morning person....Thanks again....