NY - Joel Steinberg convicted of 1987 murder of Lisa Steinberg

[hotmomma35]

what is the name of the book that you read ? I would like to see if our local book store has it.

 

[Columbo]

This case is so heartbreaking. I, too, have read the book - a few times. It takes me forever to get thru it because I have such a hard time with what he did to little Lisa. I just want to watch him die a very slow, extremely painful death.

I do wonder how Hedda has done in the years since Lisa's death. I go from feeling sorry for her to wanting to beat her myself.

I found this book about her at Crime Library online. Here's a link to the online book:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/family/lisa_steinberg/3.html

I haven't read the whole thing yet, but I followed this case when Lisa was murdered, and in years thereafter whenever there was news about her. It seems I remember reading that she had gotten herself straightened out and now speaks to battered women--but I can't be sure about that.

 

[txsvicki]

You are so right. SHE made the choice to take drugs.

I've always felt that she put up with so much because she was so addicted to drugs and didn't want to lose her supplier. I agree, she made the choice to allow the children to suffer abuse. They both should have rotted in prison the rest of their lives. I hope this pig of an excuse for a man is never around kids or women again, but he probably will.

 

[gitana1]

If I remember correctly from a book about the murder, Hedda actually did something to get Lisa in trouble with the father the night she was killed. There was speculation that she felt if she put the heat on the child it would take the heat off Hedda. He was forcing both of them, or maybe only the child, to eat tons of jalapenos or something hot so she would drink huge amounts of water because he felt she was not drinking enough (which to him was gallons). Hedda said something to indicate Lisa was not following his orders and he began beating the little girl to death. I understand she was a battered spouse but I have no sympathy for her becuase of this. I'm sorry.

 

[Columbo]

If I remember correctly from a book about the murder, Hedda actually did something to get Lisa in trouble with the father the night she was killed. There was speculation that she felt if she put the heat on the child it would take the heat off Hedda. He was forcing both of them, or maybe only the child, to eat tons of jalapenos or something hot so she would drink huge amounts of water because he felt she was not drinking enough (which to him was gallons). Hedda said something to indicate Lisa was not following his orders and he began beating the little girl to death. I understand she was a battered spouse but I have no sympathy for her becuase of this. I'm sorry.

Hi, Gitana,
According to the online book/article (it isn't as long as a book), the night Lisa died, Joel was going out to meet friends for dinner. Lisa had asked Hedda if Joel was going to take her(Lisa) along with him when he went out. (Sometimes he took Lisa with him). Hedda told Lisa "why don't you go ask him?" Lisa went into the room with Joel, and a while later Joel emerged carrying her, limp in his arms. Apparently this innocuous question had set him off and he had beaten her up. That's when he put her on the bathroom floor and she stayed there unconscious for 12 hours. There was also an issue about not drinking enough water per Joel's requirements, but I think it was her asking him this question that set off his anger.
Is this guy insane, or what? He should be locked up forever, in my opinion.

 

[gidget641]

what is the name of the book that you read ? I would like to see if our local book store has it.

There is a book written I believe by Lisa's biological mother Michele Landers. I read it many many years ago it is called "I wish you didn't know my name". The book is out of print but used copies are available on amazon for a pretty reasonable price.

http://www.amazon.com/Wish-You-Didnt-Know-Name/dp/B000J9XOBO/ref=sr_1_1/103-9643005-9793402?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192635519&sr=8-1

 

[Jules]

what is the name of the book that you read ? I would like to see if our local book store has it.

I'll have to look when I get home. I have it there. I'll let you know.

 

[JerseyGirl]

From November 2017:

Today, Steinberg is living the quiet life of an aging loner in Harlem, hitting up strangers for cigarettes and Wi-Fi connections as he ekes out a living as a disbarred lawyer.

Most days, he shuffles around the corner to ask the neighborhood’s produce vendor for handouts of rotting fruit and vegetables to use as fertilizer on the garden outside his rear ground-floor apartment.

“You have to remember I’m a pariah, so it’s not that easy for me,” Steinberg, 76, said during an exclusive interview with The Post. “If you go out there and put a picture of me in the paper, I can’t take a subway for two weeks because some fat person will decide to say, ‘I know you, and you’re a piece of s- -t.’ . . . And then I turn around, and he punches me in the f–king nose.”’

Steinberg even disgustingly claims that he can’t come to grips with Lisa’s death because it’s just too painful — for him.

“One of the things I do, instead of suppressing the memory, I keep the memory alive,” he said. “And what I notice, and what people have pointed out to me, I speak as if Lisa were alive. I don’t accept her loss. I don’t accept it as a loss. I accept it as a memory.”

Then he once again proves that his evil knows no bounds.

Asked if he had anything he wished he could say to Lisa, Steinberg answered in a cold tone that dripped with sarcasm: “Yeah, I’ll never kill you again, and I’ll never beat you up every day, and I’ll never make you a torture tot in a house of horror” — the last phrase something he also mentioned during a 1997 parole hearing.

Twice during the interview, Steinberg strolled off to smoke cigarettes he bummed from strangers, and at one point upbraided a homeless woman who approached to beg for spare change.

“Not now, ma’am. Step off,” he commanded. “This is a serious conversation.” Afterward, he tried to justify his rude behavior. “She didn’t show any lack of clarity, and any handicaps,” he reasoned. “I don’t want to be bothered and she doesn’t deserve the consideration.”

https://nypost.com/2017/11/01/notorious-child-killer-still-living-in-harlem-and-shows-no-remorse/

 

[hot cawfeee]

Oh wow.......I remember this. Hedda Nussbaum became the face of domestic violence in NYC. The mother of the surviving little boy (Travis ?? ) adopted by these two "people" came forward---IIRC she was a teen mother and didn't tell her bf she was pregnant. Then HE came forward and they met again.....don't remember what happened--she may have gotten custody.

Does anyone remember the song someone wrote about this ?? I had started college at the time and the story was huge on campus and in the classrooms.

Joel--- enough bad things cannot happen to you----always the victim, right ?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Does anyone remember the song someone wrote about this ?? I had started college at the time and the story was huge on campus and in the classrooms.

Joel--- enough bad things cannot happen to you----always the victim, right ?

This?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Q3bMSN8GY

 

[hot cawfeee]

Not sure who sang it......but I remember a song being played on the radio that had been written in tribute.
Wow.....does this all bring it back. I want to go to Harlem, find JS and punch him several times........how he paints himself as a victim--a frail little old man who must struggle to be get by "b/c I have been disbarred"......damn---2018 and I am angry all over again !!! I remember going to TGIFridays after class and met friends---we yelled and ate and drank for hours !!! One thing that chilled us girls is how something like that could happen to us women----we were between 20-24 and thought we knew it all !!!!