GUILTY NY - Leiby Kletzky, 8, Brooklyn, 11 July 2011 - #1

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This is all so sad and sickening.

I don't believe a 35-year-old man out of the blue does something like this. I wonder if he has had other victims. In particular, I'm thinking of Rashawn Brazell. Murder of Rashawn Brazell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Quite a few clues at the AMW site regarding Rashawns killer. I don't know if LA was in B-NYC in February of 2005. It's been reported he was married and in TN in 2005 IIRC, but that doesn't mean he did not make trips to B-NYC during his years of living in TN.

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=32526

We still don't know yet if AL was attracted only to young boys. however we've seen enough cases here at WS that some are not age or gender specific in who they prey upon.
 
  • #582
LA's charge is not in the 1st degree.

What is this business about LA taking Leiby to a wedding? :waitasec:

LE is investigating LA for other cases.

Leiby will be walked through the streets for his funeral :(

Aron was officially charged Wednesday with Murder in the Second Degree Intentional.
A source with the NYPD close to the investigation tells Eyewitness News reporter Jeff Pegues that police looked into whether the suspect took 8-year-old Leiby Kletzky to a wedding in Monsey.

However, the couple that got married told police they don't recall seeing the little boy.

The couple apparently lives in Far Rockaway, but celebrated their wedding upstate.

Eyewitness News has also learned that police are working now to determine whether Aron can be tied to other missing children cases.
So far, they haven't found anything.
A funeral for Kleztky will be held on Wednesday night at 8:30 after the body is released from the medical examiner's officer. An autopsy proved inconclusive in determining how the boy was killed, but further tests are pending.

The funeral procession will begin at 56th street between 16th and 17th avenues.

The service is expected to be 20-30 minutes long.

Around 9 p.m. the casket will be walked up 56th, turn left onto 15th Street, pass Leiby's house at 44th, and then be taken to his final resting place in a hearse.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=8247399
 
  • #583
I live in Memphis and I just read about this case on our local newspaper's website. Just reading about it breaks my heart.

I have access to our newspaper's database, which goes back to 1990, I can search for missing/unsolved Memphis children if anyone wants me to. Just off the top of my head I can't remember any, though.
 
  • #584
My two cents....

Any child that is murdered is a tragedy, whether by a parent or trusted figure's hands or randomly as this appears. I think though, this as in the Shaniya situation - and I've forgotten the girl in Florida's name now (apologies) when you see them on video shortly before they are killed, and it appears to be so random - it's somehow more of a kick in the throat.

Most of us as parents know we will never harm our children, we won't allow others to harm them and we'll do our best to make sure they stay out of harms way...but things like this are horrifying because we all know in our hearts, nothing we do will ever be 100% foolproof in keeping them safe. If he had his eye on Leiby, he would have taken him one way or another. There really are just monsters that roam the street.

I keep thinking of how great the police were and dedicated to be at the Dentist office at 2:00 looking at receipts, and how amazing it is that they didn't harm aron upon the discovery in the fridge.

There is no way to make sense of it.
 
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Here's another about the ex-wife:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/wife_arrest_suspect_in_dismembered_YPbX9onJaUXWrwaU8itvZN

The ex-wife of Levi Aron said today she is stunned by his arrest for the grisly murder of an 8-year-old boy — calling him a good husband who was great with children.
"I am in shock. I am not believing this," Debbie Kivel, 34, told The Post after hearing the news. "He loved children. He loved kids. My kids are now 13 and 10, but when we were married they were younger – and he loved them."
 
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I live in Memphis and I just read about this case on our local newspaper's website. Just reading about it breaks my heart.

I have access to our newspaper's database, which goes back to 1990, I can search for missing/unsolved Memphis children if anyone wants me to. Just off the top of my head I can't remember any, though.

Was it for sure Memphis where he lived? I have contacts in the Jewish community in Nashville, so I thought I might ask them.
 
  • #588
My thought is he was not an observant orthodox Jew. He lived there (in the Hasidic part of Brooklyn) recently, but in the past had been to TN. And he's divorced. And he doesn't wear the religious clothing in his pictures.

How observant an individual is, is anyone's guess. He's not Chasidic, but apparently he identifies as Orthodox. After all, that YNet article did quote other Orthodox Jews as having known him as part of the community, attended services with him, etc.
 
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My two cents....

Any child that is murdered is a tragedy, whether by a parent or trusted figure's hands or randomly as this appears. I think though, this as in the Shaniya situation - and I've forgotten the girl in Florida's name now (apologies) when you see them on video shortly before they are killed, and it appears to be so random - it's somehow more of a kick in the throat.

Most of us as parents know we will never harm our children, we won't allow others to harm them and we'll do our best to make sure they stay out of harms way...but things like this are horrifying because we all know in our hearts, nothing we do will ever be 100% foolproof in keeping them safe. If he had his eye on Leiby, he would have taken him one way or another. There really are just monsters that roam the street.

I keep thinking of how great the police were and dedicated to be at the Dentist office at 2:00 looking at receipts, and how amazing it is that they didn't harm aron upon the discovery in the fridge.

There is no way to make sense of it.

Do you mean Jessica Lunsford for the FL case?

btw, fully agree with your very well written post. TY.
 
  • #591
An neighbor in Brooklyn noted that today he felt the same way he did on 9/11.
 
  • #592
Was it for sure Memphis where he lived? I have contacts in the Jewish community in Nashville, so I thought I might ask them.

Yes, he lived briefly in Memphis.
 
  • #593
Do you mean Jessica Lunsford for the FL case?

btw, fully agree with your very well written post. TY.

I should have looked up her name before I posted, no I mean Carlie Brucia.
 
  • #594
The Jewish Community has one heart, but today the heart is shattered into a million pieces.

Rest in Peace, Sweet Leiby

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Leiby Kletzy funeral: "We must let them know that we cry with them. Our tears are the words our hearts don't know how to express"
 
  • #597
My two cents....

Any child that is murdered is a tragedy, whether by a parent or trusted figure's hands or randomly as this appears. I think though, this as in the Shaniya situation - and I've forgotten the girl in Florida's name now (apologies) when you see them on video shortly before they are killed, and it appears to be so random - it's somehow more of a kick in the throat.

Most of us as parents know we will never harm our children, we won't allow others to harm them and we'll do our best to make sure they stay out of harms way...but things like this are horrifying because we all know in our hearts, nothing we do will ever be 100% foolproof in keeping them safe. If he had his eye on Leiby, he would have taken him one way or another. There really are just monsters that roam the street.

I keep thinking of how great the police were and dedicated to be at the Dentist office at 2:00 looking at receipts, and how amazing it is that they didn't harm aron upon the discovery in the fridge.

There is no way to make sense of it.

Just have to agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments Charlie. As grateful as I am that there are videos of these dear children that identify their killers, it is beyond painful to watch them on film as they innocently go about the last few moments of their young lives. It makes you want to shout out STOP DON'T GO as if somehow you could warn them and change what happened. There really are no words to describe how that feels watching it unfold, and I cannot imagine what it does to their loved ones.

And I also join you in commending those LE officers who worked dilligently to track down this man. The devastation they must have felt when LA gestured to the refrigerator when they asked him where Leiby was. My heart goes out to them as well as the family and friends. Again, so many lives will never be the same, forever changed in an instant. My head and hearts hurts for all of them.
 
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My heart goes out to LE. I just can't imagine what they must've experienced when they found the gruesome discovery. They will probably be haunted by the images for a very long time. :(


I so agree. Can you imagine finding LA standing in the living room and they ask where Leiby is then LA points to the kitchen. Wouldn't you think for a brief second oh good he's still alive then to see what he was referring to. Those poor LE.

I say again what I said at 6am this morning. It's my opinion that LE did a great job.
 
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