NY NY - Marie Troper, 15, & Hannah Troper, 16, New York, 1919

  • #21
Details on where the girls worked:

Times Union, Brooklyn, NY, August 25, 1919:
 

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  • #22
LOL at how subjective/biased old-time media was - i.e. the girls "are described as remarkably pretty by the father." I'm sure most parents feel that way about their kids, but it's really not something anyone can use in helping to help find them!

Did either girl have a boyfriend? Also, if they were teens already working, I'm guessing they traveled in an adult sphere. Was there anyone in their acquaintance at work that was suspicious for any reason, or that they didn't get along with?

Back in 1919 there wasn't any clear-cut "teenage years" which really began in the 1940's. I do find it curious both girls had jobs as it sounds like they were born to wealth.
 
  • #23
So strange, this Charles Troper “wealthy fish merchant” gets this write up and then nothing, surely they must have been found as there would be more articles?

I can’t find any articles or Ancestry that relates to them.

As in a earlier thread the closest is a William Troper from the Bronx who was a upholsterer. He had Irene M and Hannah.
 
  • #24
I am with some of the others that they were eventually found.
 
  • #25
Here is some information about Anona H. Troper 1903-1993. She was known as Hannah Troper, Nona Troper Shafran and Nona Troper. Her sister Irene Marie m. Walter J. Stern. I had problems uploading the other information. If you put "William Troper" in the search engine this information comes up. Beth David Cemetery in Edmont, New York (A Jewish Cemetery has a Hannah Tropper, but I had trouble creating an account with Billiongraves.com that has a cemetery record). Charles Troper who was in the newspaper article spelled his last name as "Tropper" in historical records. Anona Troper has a birth date as 6-May-1903 and so does Hannah Troper. But Hannah Troper middle initial is "A". I'll try again to see if I can access Beth David Cemetery which links to Billiongraves.com to get the actual burial record. California Death Index has mother maiden name as "Beck," and father as William Troper. I haven't found an updated article suggesting when they came back. Does this mean the case is closed?
 

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  • #26
I’m perplexed, could the newspaper report have got the information so wrong? Aside from the girls names being somewhat different, Irene M was born in 1902 according to ancestry, so this one would be 17 in 1919. The William has no “Charles” or “C” as a middle name, both 1910 and 1920 census has his occupation as upholstery., not even close to “fish merchant “. If your daughters were missing would you lie about that?
 
  • #27
I’m perplexed, could the newspaper report have got the information so wrong? Aside from the girls names being somewhat different, Irene M was born in 1902 according to ancestry, so this one would be 17 in 1919. The William has no “Charles” or “C” as a middle name, both 1910 and 1920 census has his occupation as upholstery., not even close to “fish merchant “. If your daughters were missing would you lie about that?
That was my reaction. I was wondering if Hannah went by her middle name since the initial is an "A" Hannah "A" Troper. Hannah and Anona or Nona birthday are both 6-May-1903. Sometimes in Census records a person can go by their first name and then ten years later by their middle name. They could have been missing and came back, and other researchers have discussed not informing the police is another matter. Why different names are a mystery and so is occupation. I found their name spelled the following ways: Troper, Tropper, Trooper, Plus, there is a Hannah Trooper at Beth David Cemetery. Back to research.
 

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