• #41
I would LOVE to know what's in there or talk to her brothers. If any relative had involvement, I'd doubt other relatives necessarily knew. I never knew about this crime until just the other day and WOW how repugnant.
Yes. The brothers have been - to my knowledge based on publicly available information - pretty much silent, if not outright uncooperative. Noteworthy, to my way of thinking. Seems odd to me that the Amherst NY police appear to be more silent on this that what might be considered typical for them. The guy that I believe was the "lead" investigator (Villardo, I believe) has seemingly retired. The police representative with the special victims unit (LaCorte, as I recall), within which the case was said to be handled, also retired. I truly think they'd be the persons with the most complete knowledge. Whether or not they'd be willing to share (assuming they're still living) is anyone's guess, I suppose. As far as the house goes, the local property records suggest that some nearby neighbors are long term residents. They could probably be aware if there was any significant remodeling done to the place... as well as if there had been any "interest worthy" behavior. I'd be interested to know for how long Nancy Jo Scamurra's belongings & bedroom were maintained by her family. Finally, take this for what it's worth and nothing more than something that may be nothing more than a coincidence. A house down the street from the subject residence was owned/occupied by a family with the same surname.
 
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I found this interesting. Not sure what - if anything - it may mean... but, add this to the list of occurrences related to this "case." Despite the passing of the father/owner a number of years ago, the house in which the victim lived with her family was not sold (in the traditional sense). Government records suggest that ownership/control of the property transferred to family members (i.e. sons, for example). In and of itself, I suppose that's nothing peculiar. But, then again, most situations like that are not set against the backdrop of a cold case murder about which it is reported the family is said to be quite silent. In any case Erie County New York County Clerk records now show that Bank of America has filed a Lis Pendens with several Scamurras as defendants. [Reference Instrument number 2022066587 at https://ecclerk.erie.gov/BrowserView/default.aspx .]
 
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Poor girl. I was going to express a hunch that this is connected to "Bike Path Rapist" Altemio Sánchez. He was operating during that time, and I had a "sighting" encounter with him as did other women in this area. He was very active, even though there were only three confirmed murders.

However, the time of day, place, and disposal of the victim don't match. When I read how she had never been to a dentist, had a bunch of older brothers and she was the only girl, had just had a fight with one of her brothers, and her father is not interested in the case, that changes things.
 
  • #45
I found this interesting. Not sure what - if anything - it may mean... but, add this to the list of occurrences related to this "case." Despite the passing of the father/owner a number of years ago, the house in which the victim lived with her family was not sold (in the traditional sense). Government records suggest that ownership/control of the property transferred to family members (i.e. sons, for example). In and of itself, I suppose that's nothing peculiar. But, then again, most situations like that are not set against the backdrop of a cold case murder about which it is reported the family is said to be quite silent. In any case Erie County New York County Clerk records now show that Bank of America has filed a Lis Pendens with several Scamurras as defendants. [Reference Instrument number 2022066587 at Search - BrowserView .]
There was no reason to sell the house when there’s children to inherit it..just like my parents did when they died..Nancy was their world. She was sweet and spoiled. She loved her family and her family Loved her. Her Mom had 4 Boys and finally got her little girl! There’s nothing sinister in this family dynamics. The simple reason no one wanted to talk about it must have been incredibly painful, Think about it, as it would be to you …this must have been to anyone close to her, EXCEPT HER KILLER
Yes, she had an argument with a brother, big deal! Everyone has at some point.
it’s just too many opinions and not enough facts.
So here’s my Opinion

if the killer lived nearby as I suspect, He would have either attended Amherst High School or williamsville North
Graduated in the late 70’s early 80’s. He would have attended Erie 1 bocces program potters road,west Seneca. For either

Culinary Arts & Meat Cutting
In the 1970s, vocational culinary programs were more "industrial" than modern high-end cooking classes. Students at Potter Road were trained in:
  • Whole-Animal Breakdown: It was standard practice for students to learn how to break down large primal cuts of beef, pork, and poultry into retail portions (steaks, chops, and roasts).
  • Industrial Equipment: Training included the use of professional-grade meat saws, grinders, and specialized knives.
  • Sanitation & Safety: Rigorous instruction on food safety and the "deadly" nature of the machinery was a core part of the "General Shop" and trade philosophy of that era.
Because the police and investigator said that her limbs were removed with such precision that the person could be in the medical field, A butcher, or taxidermist…In the 1970s and 1980s, taxidermy was a common niche trade in the Amherst and Western New York area, Basement though it was almost never taught as a primary trade at vocational schools like
Potter Road BOCES.
Not one male student from either school turned out to be recognized doctor in the area per information online.(Hippa) for research
Investigators sometimes look for "signature" skills—such as the precise removal of joints or skinning techniques—that might suggest the killer had experience as a butcher, taxidermist, or surgeon. In Nancy Jo's case, authorities noted that the head and limbs were removed with a level of deliberateness intended to prevent identification, though they never publicly linked a specific trade to the killer.
IMO when she was in the car, she started to complain about going too far away from her house, she may have fought him or he may have threatened her with a knife or he may killed her in the car cuz she was making a scene.
I also think he was older than her like in the 20-25 range but looked younger. She was 14
Infatuation, puppy love, attention from a cute guy.. that’s how simple of an argument she could have had with her brother..that’s what I always thought. Then she storms off, just like I used to. Cool off ..go Home!
But Nancy didn’t get to Go Home,, He must have lived so close by that he was able to see her walk down the street, The dog would have known him If he was ever in their house Or Nancy introduced him to the dog at some point.
IMO if this person was friends with one of the 4-5 Brothers he may have been in the house at one time or another or at the softball games.
He may have involved himself with Nancy and one of the brothers noticed and may have said something to him, ya know it literally could be anything.
But most importantly even if you had a suspicion about a person, you can’t do too much without evidence. So you continue to research.? What would you do then 40 years later they still haven’t gotten a parking ticket? But you just wait for him to kill somebody else and hope you get dna evidence that might imply him to Nancy Jo’s murder…
 

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