NY - Officer Daniel Pantaleo used deadly chokehold on Eric Garner, Staten Island, July 2014

Was Eric Garner actually being arrested for selling cigarettes when he died? I know he has a history of that, but when you watch the video he is talking about breaking up a fight.
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Not sure about which vid or which 'he' you are referring to.

From vid clip, I thought, perhaps mistakenly, the man w cam said Mr G was breaking up a fight.
I did not hear Mr G say he was breaking up a fight but might have missed it.
But is it poss LEOs witnessed something that the person w cam did not see?
I also ack. the reverse, maybe man w cam saw something LEOs did not and perhaps he was trying to truthfully, accurately describe it.
IDK.
 
NYPD is one of the best police forces in the nation.

NYC is one of the safest cities in the nation with low crime rates.

This is a case of excessive force used by the officer. It was an over-the-top response by the officer IMO.

I cannot defend LE in this particular case.
 
Are the protesters going to Phoenix next? Where a white LEO shot and killed an unarmed black man, Tuesday night.
 
The Cleveland police officer under investigation for the fatal shooting of a 12-year-old boy last month resigned from his previous job as a police officer after his superiors determined he had emotional maturity issues, an inability to manage stress and “dismal” performance in firearms training...

spent five months in 2012 working for the police department in Independence, Ohio, a suburb south of Cleveland. His brief tenure there was marked by a host of troubling performance deficiencies that culminated in a recommendation that his employment be terminated,

Independence Police Deputy Chief Jim Polak described Loehmann as “distracted and weepy” during a firearms qualification course the previous day. “He could not follow simple directions, could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal,” Polak wrote in the letter to the city’s human resources director. “I am recommending he be released” from employment.

a police sergeant who supervised Loehmann, the young recruit attributed his problems to a breakup with his girlfriend.

March of this year, Loehmann was hired by the Cleveland Police Department. A spokesperson for the department acknowledged in a written statement Wednesday that Cleveland Police detectives did not review Loehmann’s Independence Police Department personnel file during a background check.

Loehmann had been on a brief administrative leave after the shooting last month. He is now out with an unspecified injury.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/cleveland-...esigned-previous-job/story?id=27352626&page=2

Loehmann resigned from Independence Police Department, but his personnel file shows he turned in that resignation after being told the department was beginning a disciplinary process for his separation from the force.

his “dangerous loss of composure during live range training and his inability to manage personal stress.”It also added that the deputy chief did not believe “time, nor training” will be able to correct the officer’s deficiencies.

http://fox8.com/2014/12/03/independ...ce-shooting-lacked-maturity-to-work-on-force/
 
9 of the 31 arrests were for selling untaxed cigs per Hannity on FOX.
 
What needs to change is poverty, more jobs, family responsibility, individual responsibility and to break unions that keep employees that are poor performers and vote out Mayors with politics/policies that cause more issues than they solve. What used to be known as a good person and law abiding citizen and common sense leadership...........

Yes, those things need to change as well.
 
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/category/264130/stream-1

Live feed from Dallas protests.

( the newscasters are speaking about the Dallas protests saying at some point LE was actually giving direction and telling the protesters how to stay ' safe' but mostly are just staying hands off because the protesters are being
SO PEACEFUL that the LE have backed off and are just letting them do their thing )
 
The Cleveland police officer under investigation for the fatal shooting of a 12-year-old boy last month resigned from his previous job as a police officer after his superiors determined he had emotional maturity issues, an inability to manage stress and “dismal” performance in firearms training...

spent five months in 2012 working for the police department in Independence, Ohio, a suburb south of Cleveland. His brief tenure there was marked by a host of troubling performance deficiencies that culminated in a recommendation that his employment be terminated,

Independence Police Deputy Chief Jim Polak described Loehmann as “distracted and weepy” during a firearms qualification course the previous day. “He could not follow simple directions, could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal,” Polak wrote in the letter to the city’s human resources director. “I am recommending he be released” from employment.

a police sergeant who supervised Loehmann, the young recruit attributed his problems to a breakup with his girlfriend.

March of this year, Loehmann was hired by the Cleveland Police Department. A spokesperson for the department acknowledged in a written statement Wednesday that Cleveland Police detectives did not review Loehmann’s Independence Police Department personnel file during a background check.

Loehmann had been on a brief administrative leave after the shooting last month. He is now out with an unspecified injury.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/cleveland-...esigned-previous-job/story?id=27352626&page=2

Loehmann resigned from Independence Police Department, but his personnel file shows he turned in that resignation after being told the department was beginning a disciplinary process for his separation from the force.

his “dangerous loss of composure during live range training and his inability to manage personal stress.”It also added that the deputy chief did not believe “time, nor training” will be able to correct the officer’s deficiencies.

http://fox8.com/2014/12/03/independ...ce-shooting-lacked-maturity-to-work-on-force/

Oh my goodness!
 
The medics were reassigned after a second video surfaced showing at least a half-dozen police officers and emergency workers circling a man who appears to be Garner lying on the sidewalk, handcuffed and unresponsive.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/07...staten-island-man-who-died-in-police-custody/


“It’s crazy, and I was like, ‘Perform CPR on him,’ and they was like, ‘He don’t need CPR,'” said Taisha Allen, who pulled out her phone to record the incident. “He was not breathing at the time.”
But officers said Garner was breathing.
“I think they did not do their job,” said Angela Ramos of the Tompkinsville neighborhood where the incident happened, “and that they need to be retrained.”
EMTs can then be seen in the video briefly checking Garner’s condition and putting him on a gurney to take him to the hospital.
 
[h=1]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/03/ramsey-orta-indictment-eric-garner_n_6264746.html

A Grand Jury Did Indict One Person Involved In Eric Garner's Killing -- The Man Who Filmed It
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I'm very sad about this decision. The penalty for selling black market cigarettes should not be death. We have two systems of justice in this country. And that should not be.
 
How does anyone who saw the video not hold the police responsible. Beyond disgusting.
 
What needs to change is poverty, more jobs, family responsibility, individual responsibility and to break unions that keep employees that are poor performers and vote out Mayors with politics/policies that cause more issues than they solve. What used to be known as a good person and law abiding citizen and common sense leadership...........

Unions are responsible for the following:


  1. Weekends without work
  2. All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks
  3. Paid vacation
  4. Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)
  5. Sick leave
  6. Social Security
  7. Minimum wage
  8. Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination
  9. 8-hour work day
  10. Overtime pay
  11. Child labor laws
  12. Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
  13. 40-hour work week
  14. Workers' compensation (workers' comp)
  15. Unemployment insurance
  16. Pensions
  17. Workplace safety standards and regulations
  18. Employer health care insurance
  19. Collective bargaining rights for employees
  20. Wrongful termination laws
  21. Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)
  22. Whistleblower protection laws
  23. Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee
  24. Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
  25. Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)
  26. Sexual harassment laws
  27. Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
  28. Holiday pay
  29. Employer dental, life, and vision insurance
  30. Privacy rights
  31. Pregnancy and parental leave
  32. Military leave
  33. The right to strike
  34. Public education for children
  35. Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work
  36. Laws ending sweatshops in the United States

I'm not into anything that would "break" unions. Unions aren't responsible for poverty or the sorry state of our economy. Quite the opposite, actually. Are there problems with mediocre workers being protected by their unions? Yup. But the mediocre are protected in non-union industries and jobs just as ardently. Why? I don't know, except that those who are mediocre tend to protect others like themselves and to vilify the hard workers and the intelligent.
 
I'm going to say the protest is pretty active right now, if the helicopters overhead are any sign. NYC, near Times square.
 
How does anyone who saw the video not hold the police responsible. Beyond disgusting.

I have to agree. I watched the video and it broke my heart to know that what I was witnessing was this man's last moments. I cannot believe that they chose not to indict in this case. He used an illegal hold and it killed the man. Case closed. I do not understand why he was not charged at least with manslaughter. MOO.
 

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