GUILTY NY - Orsolya Gaal, 51, body found in duffel bag, Queens, Apr 2022 *Arrest* #3

[MimosaMornings]

This guy appears to be just a crime waiting to happen IMO.
I read earlier on this thread from media that he has two prior arrests sealed. I was curious what you can seal in NY as an adult so I googled and came across this
Federal Arrest Process
I had no idea you could seal felony or misdemeanor cases at all like that as an adult. I wonder if its just NY ot other states are similar. Seems like the public, esp an employer has the right to know? JMO

Wonder if he had an attorney assist with the seal request?
JMO

 

[stmarysmead]

This guy appears to be just a crime waiting to happen IMO.
I read earlier on this thread from media that he has two prior arrests sealed. I was curious what you can seal in NY as an adult so I googled and came across this
Federal Arrest Process
I had no idea you could seal felony or misdemeanor cases at all like that as an adult. I wonder if its just NY ot other states are similar. Seems like the public, esp an employer has the right to know? JMO

Interesting that neither of these arrests resulted in his deportation. Not implying this is right or wrong but interesting none the less in regard to this case,

 

[stmarysmead]

From the NY post article….

“Other videos on the playlist include “3 ‘Older Guy’ Attraction Tricks” that will “Attract ALL Women,” “How to Be Instantly Irresistible” and “How To Get A Girlfriend (Even If She’s Not Interested In You At First).”

Other tricks promise to help men seduce women “When She Says She’s Confused” as well as “When She Says ‘She’s Not Ready!'”

Another advises how to “Sexually Escalate With Women,” while one clip promises to teach men “How To Make A Woman Want You Sexually!”

 

[stmarysmead]

More…


The channel even shares more graphic sex tips, including “3 Ways To Please A Girl In Bed (Dirty Moves To Try)” — and “How To Go Down On A Woman.”

As well as numerous tips on seduction, the channel also focuses on how to cope with an affair gone bad — including dealing with “narcissists.”

“Breakups: What ‘I’m confused’ really means,” one video is titled, while another offers, “How To Make Her Miss You! 4 Tips: When It’s Not Going Anywhere!”

 

[indicolite22]

Murder suspect David Bonola appeared to share YouTube videos on NYC crime and seduction tips

He was obsessed with violent murders and seduction videos.

I got the impression from his playlists that he was interested in local news on crime and followed some other cases, including Jodi Arias'. Since people who visit WS presumably follow true crime, I didn't find that part sinister per se. If it turns out that he looked up to the perpetrators or tried to pick up their techniques, that would be a different story.

 

[epiphany]

I got the impression from his playlists that he was interested in local news on crime and followed some other cases, including Jodi Arias'. Since people who visit WS presumably follow true crime, I didn't find that part sinister per se. If it turns out that he looked up to the perpetrators or tried to pick up their techniques, that would be a different story.

Yes, he may only pay for internet and not cable live tv service so that's how he keeps up w/ local news and lowers his bill

 

[Serena Angelique]

agreed, it is from prior to the LE presser and arrest of DB. That was sort of my point. Someone quoted mine and said that the press did not insinuate multiple men and possible affairs. I supplied those snips to explain why I feel the press did just that. Which is why I specifically selected the articles I did, from prior to the arrest and presser.

The links that you provided that refer to the possibility that there might have been “several men” of interest are no longer accessible and the pages have since been removed.

 

[JazzCPK]

I got the impression from his playlists that he was interested in local news on crime and followed some other cases, including Jodi Arias'. Since people who visit WS presumably follow true crime, I didn't find that part sinister per se. If it turns out that he looked up to the perpetrators or tried to pick up their techniques, that would be a different story.

That was my impression when perusing his YouTube news playlists, as well. He also had saved news about drug busts, hit-and-runs, car crashes, mafia crimes, COVID, Capitol riots, etc. Yes, there were also news stories about stabbing murders - but sprinkled throughout completely unrelated crimes. It certainly doesn't seem like the saves were about learning techniques. The seduction playlists? Yes. Those were obviously saved to be educational/inspirational but IMO, that wasn't the case with the 700+ news stories saved. He also saved 700+ sports videos. Just more indicative of browsing habits than trying to brush up on murder techniques.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

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Jealousy homicides involve an offender thinking they are at risk of losing their partner to someone else. I believe this was the motive. jmo

 

[Sundog]

Jealousy homicides involve an offender thinking they are at risk of losing their partner to someone else. I believe this was the motive. jmo

If she was ending the relationship again and had decided to stay with her marriage and family, then that would still have been a rejection of him. I don't think a third party (male) would have to have appeared to set this guy off, I think he refused to accept that it was over and that her choice was her husband and family. JMO.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

If she was ending the relationship again and had decided to stay with her marriage and family, then that would still have been a rejection of him. I don't think a third party (male) would have to have appeared to set this guy off, I think he refused to accept that it was over and that her choice was her husband and family. JMO.

I agree.

 

[NanZDrew]

From the NY post article….

“Other videos on the playlist include “3 ‘Older Guy’ Attraction Tricks” that will “Attract ALL Women,” “How to Be Instantly Irresistible” and “How To Get A Girlfriend (Even If She’s Not Interested In You At First).”

Other tricks promise to help men seduce women “When She Says She’s Confused” as well as “When She Says ‘She’s Not Ready!'”

Another advises how to “Sexually Escalate With Women,” while one clip promises to teach men “How To Make A Woman Want You Sexually!”

I thought these were so weird, especially the fact that he POSTED these. He seems more like a 13 year old boy emotionally.

 

[Argonaut]

If she was ending the relationship again and had decided to stay with her marriage and family, then that would still have been a rejection of him. I don't think a third party (male) would have to have appeared to set this guy off, I think he refused to accept that it was over and that her choice was her husband and family. JMO.

She may have thought the midnight meeting was going to be another of their rendezvous. Then things went south when she found out he knew about her evening out.

 

[Serena Angelique]

Jealousy homicides involve an offender thinking they are at risk of losing their partner to someone else. I believe this was the motive. jmo

That’s still under the premise that they were involved in an ongoing relationship at the time of her death, <modsnip> I don’t accept that as a given. It is a stretch for me to reduce his motives to those of a jilted lover based on the the dubious evidence that has been offered up, and although I realize that there is plenty of information that has been withheld from the general public, without it, there has been nothing to convince me that he wasn’t potentially unhinged to begin with.

 

[NanZDrew]

This recent article gives more detail than I have seen before....providing that it is accurate. It reports that she went to see a composer, traveling by train and returning the same way. After returning home, the article says she walked to the tavern and then walked back home.

How New York mom’s illicit romance with her handyman ended in a brutal murder

 

[Serena Angelique]

I thought these were so weird, especially the fact that he POSTED these. He seems more like a 13 year old boy emotionally.

IMO this makes him seems to be inept and devoid of innate intuition. He sounds as though he had trouble reading people and situations, which would make relationships more difficult for him.

 

[Warwick7]

"Bonola did not upload videos himself, but instead saved a series of clips that he liked onto a playlist on his YouTube account, which is publicly visible. "

Handyman ex-lover and 'killer of Queens mom' was obsessed with sex and crime YouTube clips | Daily Mail Online

 

[NanZDrew]

IMO this makes him seems to be inept and devoid of innate intuition. He sounds as though he had trouble reading people and situations, which would make relationships more difficult for him.

Totally agree. I have wondered if he might have some degree of autism.

 

[Teche]

From the NY post article….

“Other videos on the playlist include “3 ‘Older Guy’ Attraction Tricks” that will “Attract ALL Women,” “How to Be Instantly Irresistible” and “How To Get A Girlfriend (Even If She’s Not Interested In You At First).”

Other tricks promise to help men seduce women “When She Says She’s Confused” as well as “When She Says ‘She’s Not Ready!'”

Another advises how to “Sexually Escalate With Women,” while one clip promises to teach men “How To Make A Woman Want You Sexually!”

This reminds me of Chris Watts’ google search history.

 

[NanZDrew]

"Bonola did not upload videos himself, but instead saved a series of clips that he liked onto a playlist on his YouTube account, which is publicly visible. "

Handyman ex-lover and 'killer of Queens mom' was obsessed with sex and crime YouTube clips | Daily Mail Online

Wow! Possibly, this might be evidence for premediatation and a first degree charge. It also makes me feel that although they knew each other for 2 years. they may not have had a romantic relationship for that long
Possibly she reconciled with her husband and realized this guy was weird. It really looks like he was trying to figure out how to woo her and realized she was not that in to him.