NY NY - Robert Mayer, 46, Dix Hills, 14 Jun 2013 - # 7

[Trackergd]

Bolded by me

I have to disagree. LE wouldn't close the case until he was found, but they may wait for leads inorder to continue the investigation. They could be stuck on where to search at this point. The case may languish for a while and/or turn cold. JMO

Bolded by Me. That is the point I was trying to make. LE would not close the case until he was found. The fact they have not closed the case "appears" to indicate that they do not have credible evidence that he willfully left for what ever reason. I also agree that they may not know where to search, and that would indicate they still do not have a clue to hang their proverbial hats on.

Thanks for the feedback! :seeya:

 

[hot cawfeee]

I like that you mentioned that HE was expected to bring the seafood home, as that's how I recalled the first report as well. however, in the video interview at the train station she said "I told him I was getting [shellfish] and he asked if I could also pick up oysters".

I then assumed he was responsible for some other errand.

nice !!!!! and buying fish esp. raw shell fish on Friday to use on Sunday?? no likely

 

[Eileen730]

If the family is not suspected and declines a search, it would require a warrant. If there is no compelling evidence of foul play, I doubt a judge would sign one.

I would not read too much into the family declining a search either. Some folks are very private. Perhaps in their grief of a missing family member, they may feel they are being targeted. There may also be particular things about their private life that may be completely legal, yet not something they wish to become public knowledge.

Were something come to light that would suggest foul play, that situation would most likely change.

But..... He was last thought to be there correct? And no one else was home so why would no one think that maybe something happened to him there being no family members where home.

That would be the first thing id do!

 

[MissJ]

JMO I have no idea what happened to this man but I have theories. I just hope he is alive and can come home. I am on the fence about whether he left voluntarily or foul play. His family must be frightened.

 

[relay]

I have heard it questioned more than once that one or more people are perplexed as to why a private investigator was not called in and why the home wasn't searched. How does anyone know if or if not either or both of these things were done?

 

[Eileen730]

I have heard it questioned more than once that one or more people are perplexed as to why a private investigator was not called in and why the home wasn't searched. How does anyone know if or if not either or both of these things were done?

I think we would have heard if a search was done.
JMO

 

[Eileen730]

A man goes missing!
They find his car!
He is seen at a scrap yard!
His car is seen leaving the home!
No one was home.
No calls no texts.
Hes just gone!

Wouldn't you want your home searched to see if possibly something happened to him there or to see if possibly someone else was in there waiting for him? fingerprints dna hair etc....

How can you move on to searching these wide open spaces when you have not searched the place he was last seen?
Rule this place out then move on!

JMO

 

[ElizaAvalon]

I think we would have heard if a search was done.
JMO

I disagree. If a search was done with vans with CSI plastered all over them and neighbors witnessed investigators walking out of the house carrying black plastic bags in rubber gloved hands, then yes. But a quiet search by LE that did not require a search warrant? Maybe not.

 

[Clemenza]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blythe
I dropped FB months ago. If you don't mind me asking, What do you think happened to RM? Just speculating.

Originally Posted by Force Ten

I have no idea. Well I do have ideas but....I know he didn't disappear willingly. At least according to the evidence. At this point, I wish he did. As time drags on it doesn't look good for Mr. Mayer.

Force Ten, it's one thing to respectfully disagree with an opinion or theory by expressing counter points as to why you might disagree. Often times you've made the effort to attack an idea or theory without offering a reason, just a venomous attack.

<modsnip> what evidence are you aware of that leads you to state with certainty, "I know he didn't disappear willingly, at least according to the evidence?"

 

[Eileen730]

I disagree. If a search was done with vans with CSI plastered all over them and neighbors witnessed investigators walking out of the house carrying black plastic bags in rubber gloved hands, then yes. But a quiet search by LE that did not require a search warrant? Maybe not.

How can you know unless you do a REAL search?
This man has been missing for quite a longtime now.

My feeling is LE knows he left home and ran away!

Otherwise they would be tearing that house apart! JM

 

[Eileen730]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blythe
I dropped FB months ago. If you don't mind me asking, What do you think happened to RM? Just speculating.

Originally Posted by Force Ten

I have no idea. Well I do have ideas but....I know he didn't disappear willingly. At least according to the evidence. At this point, I wish he did. As time drags on it doesn't look good for Mr. Mayer.

Force Ten, it's one thing to respectfully disagree with an opinion or theory by expressing counter points as to why you might disagree. Often times you've made the effort to attack an idea or theory without offering a reason, just a venomous attack.

<modsnip> what evidence are you aware of that leads you to state with certainty, "I know he didn't disappear willingly, at least according to the evidence?"

And what Evidence?

 

[Eileen730]

I disagree. If a search was done with vans with CSI plastered all over them and neighbors witnessed investigators walking out of the house carrying black plastic bags in rubber gloved hands, then yes. But a quiet search by LE that did not require a search warrant? Maybe not.

How could it have been searched if they didn't find things till after the fact?

Seems its a family member that has found everything concering this case NOT law enforcement>

 

[Jerry516]

I think you're looking through ash colored glasses. There have been friends and family commenting. Also family at the tapings and searches. That has been pointed out by more than one person. Either you missed or chose to.

But spare me the 'well are all the other friends and family?' BS. MOST of his family could care less about FB or WS. It's not like a cell phone where 'everyone has to have one'. My take is this a very simple family and don't know things about cell phones, twitter, fb, texting and YES, even WS. THIS FAMILY, They Mayer Family, is missing their father and husband. Most people forget....this man is also a father that most HERE are stating unscrupulous things about him AND his wife. How becoming.

THINK before you POST.

Why do you thank my post and then bash it? The bottom line is, until you are a verified insider, I will take NCNY's word over anybody elses here.

And I am not speaking of FB and WS......I am speaking of interviews, etc.... I never said they werent PRESENT at the search, I said they are SILENT and havent SPOKEN.
Perhaps, as you say, I did miss them speaking, can you provide the links? If so, I have NO PROBLEM admitting that I am wrong.....I have eaten crow before. I dont have and EGO problem....please supply the back up. Thanks!

 

[McSpy]

But..... He was last thought to be there correct? And no one else was home so why would no one think that maybe something happened to him there being no family members where home.

That would be the first thing id do!

I know you weren't addressing me . . But RM's vehicle (or a red vehicle with unknown driver) was seen leaving the driveway, so presumably he left the home--no need to search there. Something could have happened to him there, since the camera didn't capture the driver. So, maybe there isn't enough evidence of a crime committed to get a warrant to search the property. Just a thought---no facts.

 

[Jerry516]

I know you weren't addressing me . . But RM's vehicle (or a red vehicle with unknown driver) was seen leaving the driveway, so presumably he left the home--no need to search there. Something could have happened to him there, since the camera didn't capture the driver. So, maybe there isn't enough evidence of a crime committed to get a warrant to search the property. Just a thought---no facts.

Technically, I believe it was SOMETHING RED BY the driveway, cant even confirm it was his car.

 

[CatFancier]

For the record, Rob requested oysters and lobsters for that night (friday).

Do you have a link for this ForceTen? If it's a fact, we need a link.

 

[CatFancier]

If you are stating facts, please link. If you are stating your opinion, please indicate that.

Also, please do not personalize your posts to other posters. The gauge for this is the use of the word "you". If your post is full of sentences containing this word, it may be viewed as a personalized post and may be unapproved.

 

[hot cawfeee]

I completely agree. Everything our verified insider has said has come to fruition. I now do believe that RM had, or still has, some kind of substance abuse problem.
Can you elaborate and take us through an explanation of your thoughts?

Hey guys-----am behind on this thread but had a thought---other than drugs or alcohol could it be something to do with Hurricane Sandy and insurance/home improvement loans. ALot of people had $$$$$ serious damage done from both Sandy and that superstorm in Feb-2013. Maybe they had to go out of pocket for alot of what insurance did not cover???
My b-in-law's brother had that problem--now they owe more than house is worth.

 

[McSpy]

I would respectfully submit that everyone here is well meaning and caring, that's why they are here. A lot of theories are (for lack of a better word) spitball'd up on the wall to see if anything seems to fit the timeline and what information is verifiable. There are also a fair number of professionals here with years of experience who take time from their lives to assist with these cases, to the point that even LE takes a look on occasion for ideas. WS members have even solved cases. That's not a bad track record for a website.

Theories are what drive cases to be solved, and you can bet a paycheck that LE has white boarded most if not all the same theories themselves, just not in a public venue such as this.

Most of us do think when we post. The theories are not always popular, but necessary none-the-less to get from point A to point B.

Excellent post!

 

[hot cawfeee]

"Bolding by me"--took me a while to figure it out by context.


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