NY NY - Robert Mayer, 46, Dix Hills, 14 Jun 2013 - # 7

[VeryCleverGirl]

would he be dumb enough to have a drug dealer as a contact on a company issued phone????????

See I think he has had another phone...it's why the other one was left...yanno "not gonna need this thing!" even if it's gf or drugs which I have never bought drugs.....In most of his pics his eyes are clear...and he looks engaged....just not a pic of drug user

 

[Drib]

I know you weren't addressing me . . But RM's vehicle (or a red vehicle with unknown driver) was seen leaving the driveway, so presumably he left the home--no need to search there. Something could have happened to him there, since the camera didn't capture the driver. So, maybe there isn't enough evidence of a crime committed to get a warrant to search the property. Just a thought---no facts.

IMO, the cops are not going to waste their resources if they have come to the conclusion no foul play has been committed. Hence no search of the home. I would think that it would be worthwhile to search for fingerprints though where his wallet and cell phone were just to confirm it was indeed him in the house and not a third party driving the car. But again, no evidence of a crime so LE is not going to waste time investigating.

 

[McSpy]

I am glad that you brought this up, because in My mind I was thinking that IM asked someone from RM's past if he had been in contact with RM, and this person from RM's past lied, in the fact that yes they were texting....

So, when somebody writes something, it really is Individualistic on how the reader interprets what that person means, especially using pronouns in the context of that sentence...he, and him....Is the He RM or the someone from RM's past....

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QUOTE FROM NCNY FROM THE LINK ABOVE AND SNIPPED FOR SPACE............

"All the information regarding calls and texts were combed through and all leads go nowhere with the phone"
"there was at one point early on that we thought of someone Rob associated with as he lied about being in touch with him when asked by IM only to find out they were in touch through texts..."

IMOO.

Oh yes, it is hard to interpret that. I can see why it is confusing. One can't tell who was lying--RM or the associated person. Either way it does suggests some sneakiness by one or the other or---- both. Yet . . .

. . . when I read it a few times, it seems like the other person was lying about the contact with RM, because it looks like IM asked this individual if they had contact with RM. They replied no, but later Ida finds out there was contact after all. I guess it depends on when Ida asked this question. After RM disappeared or before he disappeared.
Wish I could verifiy this interpretation . . .

 

[Codger]

No, Jerry, I am not kidding......My perception of that statement was that IM talked to the friend of RM and that friend lied.
My perception never took me to the thought process that it was RM that lied.
Who knows? It could have been RM that lied......that is why I brought it up about it being an individualistic interpretation of what somebody writes.
I am glad it was brought up, because it did not occur to me otherwise! That's why I like Websleuths because differing opinions are helpful. It's not like I have tunnel vision, sometimes I think of things a certain way, not meaning Not to look at things another way.

Very well said. I never got around to thinking it could be the friend who lied, so I'm glad you put that out there. Your scenario makes perfect sense + I just never saw it. I often see things a particular way + it never occurs to me it could be something else. As you said its not tunnel vision, just the way I perceive it. Then I come to WS + give myself a brain cramp looking at it 58 different ways + debating semantics with myself. Until I get to "what exactly does 'the' mean?" :floorlaugh:

 

[VeryCleverGirl]

Somebody said they took down the Missing FB page....think he has called or come home or they found him?????

 

[Drib]

Somebody said they took down the Missing FB page....think he has called or come home or they found him?????

They shut down the public page temporarily. Didn't say why. The private Robert Mayer search group page is still there.

 

[hot cawfeee]

How well do we really know anyone???
I dated a guy for 3 years and was in his house almost every day. I saw his family as perfect. They laughed, never fought, were lovey dovey, they were a perfect couple. Holidays, dinners, etc. I practically lived there. No reason to ever expect that anything was wrong. The man was home every day at 6pm, ate dinner, we watched a movie as a normal family. I can go on and on about how perfect they were, they had 2 sons.
I thought...they were perfect!
On CHRISTMAS DAY, his dad told the whole family "I'm sorry, you both have a brother and sister and I'm leaving mom" I am marrying my secretary!!!!
The Devastation I cannot describe. He walked out the door and never looked back.
True story.
Needless to say, the guy and I broke up 6 months later. He had to take care of his mother. He later became an addict. His other brother was ok. He got married and is fine.
People don't realize what they do can have severe consequences. They don't think at all.

If the case is that RM is away at a Rehab Facility, why hide it???
In all honesty we all do things we regret in life and I know I cannot mention any names but if RM is away, would it really be so bad??? People do worse things for goodness sakes.
It's the young ones who suffer unfortunately.

Still, that yard is in my head, ugh!

Thank you for sharing that story Mom---yikes---

If RM is a rehab I like you dont understand the shame that is attached to it-----I had thought the whole "disappearance" was a staged scene-for sympathy, attention, relief from creditors. Addiction is a protected "illness" am I right?? If an employee stands up and say "I am an alcoholic, drug addict etc and I am seeking treatment" they are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act. I think I am right--will check it.

What will people remember--not that someone got clean and got themselves together but the whole goat rodeo that is attached to it.

 

[hot cawfeee]

This is what leads me to believe its a possibility RM is away in a Rehab.
I read those words also and what ELSE could the verified person mean??
Any suggestions?

or another red herring??????????

 

[VeryCleverGirl]

Thank you for sharing that story Mom---yikes---

If RM is a rehab I like you dont understand the shame that is attached to it-----I had thought the whole "disappearance" was a staged scene-for sympathy, attention, relief from creditors. Addiction is a protected "illness" am I right?? If an employee stands up and say "I am an alcoholic, drug addict etc and I am seeking treatment" they are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act. I think I am right--will check it.

What will peole remember--not that someone got clean and got themselves together but the whole goat rodeo that is attached to it.

"goat rodeo" :silly: hahahahaha

 

[McSpy]

IMO, the cops are not going to waste their resources if they have come to the conclusion no foul play has been committed. Hence no search of the home. I would think that it would be worthwhile to search for fingerprints though where his wallet and cell phone were just to confirm it was indeed him in the house and not a third party driving the car. But again, no evidence of a crime so LE is not going to waste time investigating.

We are both on board with this, but it is interesting that LE doesn't ask permission to take a walk around in and outside the house (not a deep search with forensics). Often they have to scramble to find ways to get search warrants later. Why not do a simple search to see if anything looks amiss (piece of carpet missing, something broken, strong smell of bleach, etc.)? All they need to do is ask permission. They may not find anything, but if they do, it could provide a lead to what happened.

Maybe LE did take a quick look around the property, but I get the impression it didn't happen. I could be wrong, because I don't know. I'm not saying IM did anything. I'm just saying this about all the missing persons cases where spouses or other family members are missing. If LE asks and the home owner says no, then that is something for LE to think about as well.

Just some thoughts . . . No facts

 

[McSpy]

When people are under the influence of drugs/alcohol, they arent thinking clearly. So who knows.

It's like these politicians (Weiner, Spitzer, etc....) they get a power trip and think they are untouchable. Do the dumbest things and throw their whole career away. Shockingly stupid...but who knows what they were thinking.

Agree. I knew someone, who became addicted to oxycotin. He was a middle class, family man. He was caught burglarizing wealthy homes on Cape Cod and auctioning off the expensive antiques in NYC! He lived in RI. He got caught and everyone was shocked! His family was incredibly embarrassed. They didn't have a clue he was doing this. It was all in the news too. He was convicted and sent to prison for 5 years. Apparently, he had an injury and he became addicted to the drug over time. It drove him to do crazy things.

 

[OldSteve]

We are both on board with this, but it is interesting that LE doesn't ask permission to take a walk around in and outside the house (not a deep search with forensics). Often they have to scramble to find ways to get search warrants later. Why not do a simple search to see if anything looks amiss (piece of carpet missing, something broken, strong smell of bleach, etc.)? All they need to do is ask permission. They may not find anything, but if they do, it could provide a lead to what happened.

Maybe LE did take a quick look around the property, but I get the impression it didn't happen. I could be wrong, because I don't know. I'm not saying IM did anything. I'm just saying this about all the missing persons cases where spouses or other family members are missing. If LE asks and the home owner says no, then that is something for LE to think about as well.

Just some thoughts . . . No facts

You got me thinking how important it is for LE to take action like what you mentioned as soon as a person goes missing! Too late now in this case.

So much can be determined in the hours after a person is reported missing by a loved one - reactions at that time would tell so much. Just looking for bruises, scratches, and the things you mentioned!
If a peson's loved one suddenly went missing they (I) would be in such a state that I would be very oblivious to LE doing a bit of snooping inside my house.

 

[Drib]

We are both on board with this, but it is interesting that LE doesn't ask permission to take a walk around in and outside the house (not a deep search with forensics). Often they have to scramble to find ways to get search warrants later. Why not do a simple search to see if anything looks amiss (piece of carpet missing, something broken, strong smell of bleach, etc.)? All they need to do is ask permission. They may not find anything, but if they do, it could provide a lead to what happened.

Maybe LE did take a quick look around the property, but I get the impression it didn't happen. I could be wrong, because I don't know. I'm not saying IM did anything. I'm just saying this about all the missing persons cases where spouses or other family members are missing. If LE asks and the home owner says no, then that is something for LE to think about as well.

Just some thoughts . . . No facts

I am still trying to figure out how she got them to take a missing persons report so quickly on an adult. That to me stands out as that is not normal procedure. He isn't elderly and there is no sign of foul play. I am thinking she had connections inside LE. I also think the secrecy is around skeletons in the closet. That to me is the reason for so little information being released. I don't buy that the LE is telling her what she can and cannot release as I don't believe they really are doing any investigating. She is/was a lawyer so that speaks volumes to me.

 

[VeryCleverGirl]

You got me thinking how important it is for LE to take action like what you mentioned as soon as a person goes missing! Too late now in this case.

So much can be determined in the hours after a person is reported missing by a loved one - reactions at that time would tell so much. Just looking for bruises, scratches, and the things you mentioned!
If a peson's loved one suddenly went missing they (I) would be in such a state that I would be very oblivious to LE doing a bit of snooping inside my house.

I would think they have had enough missing cases they would pick up on a spouse...police are suspicious by the nature of the job. And a spouse is always looked at first. I think the police looked at her and even took a look see at the house...they sent someone to take info when she first reported sop

 

[Momoffourboys]

I am still trying to figure out how she got them to take a missing persons report so quickly on an adult. That to me stands out as that is not normal procedure. He isn't elderly and there is no sign of foul play. I am thinking she had connections inside LE. I also think the secrecy is around skeletons in the closet. That to me is the reason for so little information being released. I don't buy that the LE is telling her what she can and cannot release as I don't believe they really are doing any investigating. She is/was a lawyer so that speaks volumes to me.

Excellent post.
Thank you.
:rockon:

 

[OldSteve]

I would think they have had enough missing cases they would pick up on a spouse...police are suspicious by the nature of the job. And a spouse is always looked at first. I think the police looked at her and even took a look see at the house...they sent someone to take info when she first reported sop

You would think, but allot times they don't send seasoned detectives, and in some cases I've followed they try to put off the caller by saying the person may have simply run off, or left voluntarily, or you need to way 24, 48 hours before reporting someone missing. More so when that person missing is an adult, and probably more so when it's a man..

 

[Codger]

http://www.longislandpress.com/2013/08/31/vanished-dix-hills-father-still-missing-after-2-months/

A Suffolk County Police Department spokesman tells the Press detectives do not believe Mayer’s disappearance to be the result of foul play at this stage and that there is an active and ongoing investigation into “all leads.”

Good to know. Straight from LE.

About a week after her husband’s disappearance, Suffolk police detectives informed Ida that a neighbor’s camera had recorded what appeared to be her husband’s car by her driveway at approximately 2:41 p.m., June 14, and then showed it pulling out of the driveway 10 minutes later. Only the top of the car was spotted; the driver and/or passengers weren’t. The camera caught Ida’s car pulling into the driveway at about 3 p.m.

This made me :waitasec: because previously I had it rattling around in my head that the neighbor's cam was around the block, saw a red car going to coming from that direction. This states it shows the driveway.

Further searching the garage, Ida found Rob’s cell phone, turned off, in another drawer in the garage. The $300 she’d found previously matches the transaction he made June 14 at Arrow, she says.

Much debate about who found what + when. This at least has her finding the phone after she'd found the $.

Where is Robert?

 

[MomWhoLovesDragons]

Thank you for sharing that story Mom---yikes---

If RM is a rehab I like you dont understand the shame that is attached to it-----I had thought the whole "disappearance" was a staged scene-for sympathy, attention, relief from creditors. Addiction is a protected "illness" am I right?? If an employee stands up and say "I am an alcoholic, drug addict etc and I am seeking treatment" they are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act. I think I am right--will check it.

What will peole remember--not that someone got clean and got themselves together but the whole goat rodeo that is attached to it.

LOL, What is a goat rodeo? Is it like who can catch the most goats? lol

IMO I think that with any addiction the work place has to help the person.
I think the privacy of the person is also protected.

I read somewhere about denial. I'm reading the threads from July and I don't know if I can copy it and post it here. Lots of clues there.

 

[Trackergd]

How could it have been searched if they didn't find things till after the fact?

Seems its a family member that has found everything concering this case NOT law enforcement>

And that may be true. What "we" would do may be far different that what LE is permitted to do without a warrant and what the family may want done. Were we to know more about the "back story" and what LE knows, perhaps we would understand a bit better. I submit that if LE had even a suspicion that foul play was involved, a warrant would have been secured. I "suspect" LE was permitted a walk through cursory check and found nothing to suggest foul play.

 

[Eileen730]

Thank you for sharing that story Mom---yikes---

If RM is a rehab I like you dont understand the shame that is attached to it-----I had thought the whole "disappearance" was a staged scene-for sympathy, attention, relief from creditors. Addiction is a protected "illness" am I right?? If an employee stands up and say "I am an alcoholic, drug addict etc and I am seeking treatment" they are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act. I think I am right--will check it.

What will peole remember--not that someone got clean and got themselves together but the whole goat rodeo that is attached to it.

All he has to do is call home I'm fine .... or call law enforcement and say I'm ok just do t want anyone to know where I am. He has been gone to long for rehab