NY NY - Robert Mayer, 46, Dix Hills, 14 Jun 2013 - # 8

[Eileen730]

A.He left on his own!
B.He Killed himself!
C.Or was Murdered!

I do not for one minute think he killed himself.

JMO

 

[Trackergd]

That's interesting. :silenced:

I'm giving it until the end of the day today. There is the possibility that they are tied up with other day to day things and have just not got around to checking phone messages etc.

After that, I guess I will have to admit that they are just not going to talk to me for what ever reason. Could be Legal advice not to discuss cases or it could be a request from LE with regard to an active case. I would have at least thought I would get the courtesy of a "sorry, can't talk about it" phone call.

 

[BunnyHop]

I'm giving it until the end of the day today. There is the possibility that they are tied up with other day to day things and have just not got around to checking phone messages etc.

After that, I guess I will have to admit that they are just not going to talk to me for what ever reason. Could be Legal advice not to discuss cases or it could be a request from LE with regard to an active case. I would have at least thought I would get the courtesy of a "sorry, can't talk about it" phone call.

Mum's the word on this one :twocents:

 

[ElizaAvalon]

I'm giving it until the end of the day today. There is the possibility that they are tied up with other day to day things and have just not got around to checking phone messages etc.

After that, I guess I will have to admit that they are just not going to talk to me for what ever reason. Could be Legal advice not to discuss cases or it could be a request from LE with regard to an active case. I would have at least thought I would get the courtesy of a "sorry, can't talk about it" phone call.

Just out of curiosity, tracker, since the SCPD has its own K9s, why would they need to use an outside SAR organization? Do we know for sure that the organization you are trying to reach was involved at all?

 

[hot cawfeee]

It depends. At the station there are always cars. People go out east or NYC and leave their cars, so it would not stand out as peculiar and LE seeing it there without knowing to look for it would not find it suspicious. At the preserve parking it is quite the opposite. If a car was seen there late at night or left there, LE driving by would probably notice it and find it suspicious. IMO.

And maybe its as simple as there is a rest-room (I think) at the train station and would be able to refill a water bottle if necessary and use the restroom. Does the Preserve have any amenities or a Info or Ranger Station???

Good point Momoffour----and we did not even discuss yet that LI institution (no--not Dairy Barn-lol)---the Park and Ride lots!!! Cars parked overnight there go without notice b/c of the ....nature of some reasons for parking

 

[BunnyHop]

I'm giving it until the end of the day today. There is the possibility that they are tied up with other day to day things and have just not got around to checking phone messages etc.

After that, I guess I will have to admit that they are just not going to talk to me for what ever reason. Could be Legal advice not to discuss cases or it could be a request from LE with regard to an active case. I would have at least thought I would get the courtesy of a "sorry, can't talk about it" phone call.

Question: when you contacted them, was it specifically referencing RM?
Or did you ask "generally" that you would like to speak with them? TIA

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

A.He left on his own!
B.He Killed himself!
C.Or was Murdered!

I do not for one minute think he killed himself.

JMO

to kiss the blarney stone!
something he'd been doing for the last 10 years of his marriage apparently!

ho ho

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

It depends. At the station there are always cars. People go out east or NYC and leave their cars, so it would not stand out as peculiar and LE seeing it there without knowing to look for it would not find it suspicious. At the preserve parking it is quite the opposite. If a car was seen there late at night or left there, LE driving by would probably notice it and find it suspicious. IMO.

It was "officially" reported yesterday by Force
Ten that RM's car was found at train station
by IM's brother in law who is a SCPD officer.

It was been officially reported that IDA reported
RM to be a missing person at 1AM June 15.

If this is the case - as been oh so officially reported by
Force Ten - even though Force Ten has not been
officially validated or verified or what ever it is called....

if the Deer Park train station is only 8 minutes from
RM's house - why did it take 19 hours to find this outstanding
red car at the train station. Police have numerous patrol
cars literally patrolling looking for things....

common sense says that it most likely would NOT take 19
hours on a Saturday to drive to nearby train stations looking
for a bright cherry red GTO.

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

A newlywed wife was charged Monday with killing her husband by pushing him off a cliff in Glacier National Park during an argument just a week after they got married.



omg - a fight occurred after ONE week of marriage...


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...iff-argument-1-week-wedding-article-1.1450646

 

[relay]

Robert went missing June 14. From a SAR point of view, it could be considered getting old. In my opinion it is no longer a live subject recovery sorry to say. From a case investigation it is well within the time frame of an active case.

With regard to the car, is it fact that LE still has it or that the LE family member discovered it....or both?

Do you agree that a more widespread search of the preserve is warranted?

However, if he left by choice for whatever reason, he could be anywhere in the United States. Since he spent most, if not all of his life on Long Island and the surrounding area, I would tend to think he may be either hiding in plain sight in the area or has relocated to an area where he can support himself financially and where he feels somewhat comfortable. Yet, he may not want to move to a particular place if that was a known favorite region so as not to be found. For example, say he likes warm weather and enjoyed Florida vacays in the past. He may not move to Florida, but instead choose South Carolina or another similar, warm weather state. I don't know if he likes Florida or warm weather, per say. This is an arbitrarily based scenario. He could just as easily go to a colder climate where in the past he may have even mentioned he would never want to live just as a diversion.

At this point, I hope he left on his own because at least he would be still living. And, where there is life, there is hope.

 

[hot cawfeee]

Even if he did take off...that is kinda interesting, no? A seemingly average guy, wife and kids and a good job, up and leaves without a word? Allowing his family, his mom, his friends to imagine he might be dead?

Suicide is starting to sound like a viable option, sorry to say. If this is a real possibility, then that preserve/reserve needs to be searched entirely.

I really do not see the walking away scenario without letting his mom, at least, know he is okay. That would be just cruel. Bad enough for the kids, but for an old woman to have to wonder if her son is alive is just awful, JMO.

Clu-----we have no clue (pun intended) of what happened before RM left (the night before, weeks etc) and also we don't know if he has been in touch with family. I believe its a pending divorce and it went public:twocents:

And I do see the suicide as something to explore on our list of options----that preserve scares the hell out of me

 

[hot cawfeee]

Mom-of-4 .....Clevah is catching on is it not??? lol

there is a real sense of duplicity...I don't know on whose part...fabricated or micro-managed....but def duplicitous

MOO and all that jazz (sorry Cawfee borrowing your catch phrase!)

hahahahahaha---tossing glitter---jazz hands y'all:floorlaugh:

 

[hot cawfeee]

Don't you think possibly he told her they were finished he wanted a divorce and was leaving so he comes home gathers some things and leaves she arrived home to find him gone.... she sits and waits and waits nothing....gets angrier and angrier as the night passes her only way to find out where he is is to report him missing.

Now Robert hears this and get angry and decides ok ill be missing!

Just a thought folks!

Can totally see it Eileen------she will embarrass him, make him look bad, make herself look good, make him feel guilty---who wouldn't do that???

 

[hot cawfeee]

But why make your kids suffer? Your mother suffer?

am the total broken record---We have no way of knowing that RM has not been in touch with his mom, sister or his kids:twocents:

 

[Eileen730]

Can totally see it Eileen------she will embarrass him, make him look bad, make herself look good, make him feel guilty---who wouldn't do that???

Esp if your totally T'd off.



Im wondering if he didn't come home thurs night and wandered in around 4 am they fight he grabs some things and leaves in a big hurry.
He is unshaven! She calls around 9 and the argument continues!

 

[Trackergd]

Just out of curiosity, tracker, since the SCPD has its own K9s, why would they need to use an outside SAR organization? Do we know for sure that the organization you are trying to reach was involved at all?

On the LISAR website they have a video about the case. It shows shots of the train station and a LISAR dog in a crate, however it does not show if it is at the station or at the Preserve, however it does show LISAR staff at the Preserve.

Police dogs tend to be purpose trained animals that (for the most part) are "subject control" and on occasion, drug dogs. SAR dogs tend to be purpose trained for scent detection and subject recovery.

 

[Eileen730]

am the total broken record---We have no way of knowing that RM has not been in touch with his mom, sister or his kids:twocents:

If he is alive I think he would!

 

[Trackergd]

It was "officially" reported yesterday by Force
Ten that RM's car was found at train station
by IM's brother in law who is a SCPD officer.

I think Force Ten said it was a "friend" who found the car. I could be wrong.

It was been officially reported that IDA reported
RM to be a missing person at 1AM June 15.

If this is the case - as been oh so officially reported by
Force Ten - even though Force Ten has not been
officially validated or verified or what ever it is called....

Vetted

I tend to polite to everyone as I work from the theory that "all rumors contain a grain of truth". And I respect everyone's opinion, even if it differs from mine. I am not 100% correct 100% of the time.

if the Deer Park train station is only 8 minutes from
RM's house - why did it take 19 hours to find this outstanding
red car at the train station. Police have numerous patrol
cars literally patrolling looking for things....

common sense says that it most likely would NOT take 19
hours on a Saturday to drive to nearby train stations looking
for a bright cherry red GTO.

Might not have been an immediate priority. Most times PD will not even investigate an MP case for 24-48 hours, however 19 hours does seem a bit long if it was an immediate BOLO.

 

[Momoffourboys]

It was "officially" reported yesterday by Force
Ten that RM's car was found at train station
by IM's brother in law who is a SCPD officer.

It was been officially reported that IDA reported
RM to be a missing person at 1AM June 15.

If this is the case - as been oh so officially reported by
Force Ten - even though Force Ten has not been
officially validated or verified or what ever it is called....

if the Deer Park train station is only 8 minutes from
RM's house - why did it take 19 hours to find this outstanding
red car at the train station. Police have numerous patrol
cars literally patrolling looking for things....

common sense says that it most likely would NOT take 19
hours on a Saturday to drive to nearby train stations looking
for a bright cherry red GTO.

That is not true. Force ten never made that statement. It was a hypothetical statement made by my. I said "unless the family/friend who found car was LE".

Also, the train station always has cars parked overnight. It would not be odd for LE to drive thru station and see cars there.

 

[hot cawfeee]

Robert went missing June 14. From a SAR point of view, it could be considered getting old. In my opinion it is no longer a live subject recovery sorry to say. From a case investigation it is well within the time frame of an active case.

With regard to the car, is it fact that LE still has it or that the LE family member discovered it....or both?

Do you agree that a more widespread search of the preserve is warranted?

If I am off base ---there are so many facts, fictions, cell-phone pings (hey-we havent talked about those in a thread or 3 -lol) that I need some clarification---Was the area around the Deer Park Sta. searched?? The area that was said to have alot of homeless people IIRC.