NY NY - Robert Mayer, 46, Dix Hills, 14 Jun 2013 - # 9

[Force Ten]

I have been racking my brain for what happened to this man at 2:51, but your posts about the car possibly being dropped off at the train station at some time later is giving me a feel that the timeline we have been working with is really extended until the car was found the next day. Something transpired between 2:51 PM on Friday and Saturday when the was found. Someone could have dropped it off at 2:51 A.M. for all we know and that leaves a 12 hour window of possibilities..

Yep...

 

[windstorm]

I have been racking my brain for what happened to this man at 2:51, but your posts about the car possibly being dropped off at the train station at some time later is giving me a feel that the timeline we have been working with is really extended until the car was found the next day. Something transpired between 2:51 PM on Friday and Saturday when the was found. Someone could have dropped it off at 2:51 A.M. for all we know and that leaves a 12 hour window of possibilities..

YES. This is what a couple posters on here have been saying all along. The timeline doesn't end at 2:51 pm on 14 June. There's 17 hours that anything could have happened.

 

[Force Ten]

YES. This is what a couple posters on here have been saying all along. The timeline doesn't end at 2:51 pm on 14 June. There's 17 hours that anything could have happened.

I have never been able to buy into the assumption that RM went straight to the train depot from the house, especially once I saw that video of the parking problem early on. There would be more available parking up front after say 6 or 7 pm when commuters are coming home and most certainly on saturday when less people would be commuting. It would be useful to have someone give an account that is familiar with riding the train from Deer Park. But more importantly, why did he leave the house? Was it willingly and if not, why not communicate that he was leaving to IM as she was expecting him home around that time? Is there a correlation that he went home, went into the garage, left and the car being found with the trunk empty connected? And LOCKED to boot.

It may be possible that the person drove (possibly not RM) and parked the car there late saturday afternoon with the intention of returning to the vehicle later after a short commute on the train. But once returned.....

 

[ElizaAvalon]

Hmmm... Well I think something happened to him right away. I thinking if he had planned to be away from home for an extended period of time he would have given Ida a head's up so that she wouldn't be worried.

Actually, what am I saying? Maybe he did.

 

[Force Ten]

Do you think he met with foul play?

Still on the fence on that one. I am leaning more towards that he is alive but less and less each day. I think odds are better for Hoagland than RM in that regards.

 

[Sassimiz]

I have never been able to buy into the assumption that RM went straight to the train depot from the house, especially once I saw that video of the parking problem early on. There would be more available parking up front after say 6 or 7 pm when commuters are coming home and most certainly on saturday when less people would be commuting. It would be useful to have someone give an account that is familiar with riding the train from Deer Park. But more importantly, why did he leave the house? Was it willingly and if not, why not communicate that he was leaving to IM as she was expecting him home around that time? Is there a correlation that he went home, went into the garage, left and the car being found with the trunk empty connected? And LOCKED to boot.

It may be possible that the person drove (possibly not RM) and parked the car there late saturday afternoon with the intention of returning to the vehicle later after a short commute on the train. But once returned.....

I have posted earlier about the DP station. My husband has been commuting out of there for 10 years- and I commute from there once a week as well. A Friday in June- a so called "summer Friday" would definitely be less crowded than usual. Lost of people take Fridays off after Memorial Day or just leave early. You absolutely can see the difference in the parking situation. Plus, spots open up all day long as not everyone works 9-5. The night workers come home all throughout the late morning and early afternoon.

 

[windstorm]

RM is 46 and him and IM have been married 18 years. That puts him getting married at approximately 28 years old. Anybody ever wondered if he was married before?

 

[ElizaAvalon]

RM is 46 and him and IM have been married 18 years. That puts him getting married at approximately 28 years old. Anybody ever wondered if he was married before?

I didn't find a divorce record in downstate court records.

 

[trigger]

I have never been able to buy into the assumption that RM went straight to the train depot from the house, especially once I saw that video of the parking problem early on. There would be more available parking up front after say 6 or 7 pm when commuters are coming home and most certainly on saturday when less people would be commuting. It would be useful to have someone give an account that is familiar with riding the train from Deer Park. But more importantly, why did he leave the house? Was it willingly and if not, why not communicate that he was leaving to IM as she was expecting him home around that time? Is there a correlation that he went home, went into the garage, left and the car being found with the trunk empty connected? And LOCKED to boot.

It may be possible that the person drove (possibly not RM) and parked the car there late saturday afternoon with the intention of returning to the vehicle later after a short commute on the train. But once returned.....

I took this train to work for years. It was packed with people, no seats available and when the train stopped at Deer Park after 7pm alot of people got off and I was finally able to get a seat. So imo it had to be later, imo after 830pm for RM or whoever, to get that spot.

 

[windstorm]

I didn't find a divorce record in downstate court records.

IM has a doctorate, so she was obviously going to college after high school. Wonder what RM was doing for those 10 years between high school and marriage?

I just wish we knew more about ROB the person!

 

[Jerry516]

I have posted earlier about the DP station. My husband has been commuting out of there for 10 years- and I commute from there once a week as well. A Friday in June- a so called "summer Friday" would definitely be less crowded than usual. Lost of people take Fridays off after Memorial Day or just leave early. You absolutely can see the difference in the parking situation. Plus, spots open up all day long as not everyone works 9-5. The night workers come home all throughout the late morning and early afternoon.

Let us keep in mind the train station MAY play no role in this. The car might have just been driven there by the perp as a diversion. Remember, it's more likely the perp got that spot in the wee hrs of sat morning, since the lot is much emptier and there is less chance of being seen. JMO

 

[ElizaAvalon]

IM has a doctorate, so she was obviously going to college after high school. Wonder what RM was doing for those 10 years between high school and marriage?

I just wish we knew more about ROB the person!

A doctorate?

 

[Sassimiz]

A doctorate?

Juris doctorate

 

[windstorm]

Let us keep in mind the train station MAY play no role in this. The car might have just been driven there by the perp as a diversion. Remember, it's more likely the perp got that spot in the wee hrs of sat morning, since the lot is much emptier and there is less chance of being seen. JMO

Which would indicate the perp had at least some knowledge of RM. Way too much coincidence for a random perp to part in THAT SPOT. IMO

 

[windstorm]

A doctorate?

Juris Doctorate

 

[Djais]

Hi, I've been reading but haven't posted before. Trains do run in the wee hours all night, that 12:59 train mentioned above, is actually 12:59 a.m. And then continue going out at 2 a.m., 3 a.m., etc.

You are correct Nicole, I did not see that it read "Morning Service" on that schedule. Sorry.....

 

[ElizaAvalon]

Juris Doctorate

A bit different from a research doctorate.

 

[Jerry516]

Which would indicate the perp had at least some knowledge of RM. Way too much coincidence for a random perp to part in THAT SPOT. IMO

Forget the spot, I think that it is being "over thought". Make no mistake, NOTHING about this was/is random. He was targeted or somehow involved with this perp.

 

[Force Ten]

Let us keep in mind the train station MAY play no role in this. The car might have just been driven there by the perp as a diversion. Remember, it's more likely the perp got that spot in the wee hrs of sat morning, since the lot is much emptier and there is less chance of being seen. JMO

I agree, it could have been a diversion or maybe a spot to just dump the car. But then I think they wouldn't lock the car. But one thing is clear for me (not fact, IMO) RM left the money and phone at home (if leaving all behind, why not just leave it in the car) and then left. There may have been a snap judgement for him to bolt (looking scared on the Arrow video) and just leave. I sometimes wonder if this was a case of road rage and the perp followed him home. Perhaps they got into it in front of his house, perp takes off and he goes after them. Then? Who knows. But if there was an altercation later, there may have been no evidence of a crime or murder in the car. Just my thoughts and theories, no facts.

 

[Force Ten]

There are plenty of places along Commack Road that one could pull over and dispose of a body deep (a few hundred feet) in the woods.