GUILTY NY - Sean "Diddy" Combs guilty re prostitution charges but NG of racketeering conspiracy and sex trafficking, 17 Sept 2024

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  • #861
So, someone explains this like I'm 5. Is the main purpose of the cross-CV, Mia, Jane, BB to prove that they were willing participants?
 
  • #862
But this is a lot of what trafficking is in a cliff notes definition. They are afraid and abused but appear to go along with it. That’s always the answer isn’t it?

To the 2nd point - several family related items lead me to believe that he was likely sexualized at a very young age. When this happens, as adults over sexualization sometimes an occurs where there is never fully satiation and go go go happens.

I’m not sure if it’s the formal definition according to the law but it seems like it is trafficking to me. They start off in an unhealthy relationship so it’s not surprising that they go along with it. They are being groomed but they mistake that for love.

His Father left when he was young. His mother had her own version of Freak-offs in the home in front of Combs. Alcohol and drugs were always present. I don’t recall the source but there is a link up thread. The family dynamics are very strange.
 
  • #863
So, someone explains this like I'm 5. Is the main purpose of the cross-CV, Mia, Jane, BB to prove that they were willing participants?
IMO yes. Nothing to see here, all adults and willing participants is the message.
 
  • #864
IMO yes. Nothing to see here, all adults and willing participants is the message.

That is definitely the insidious part of a relationship with an abuser. I keep going back to Tina and Ike Turner, because SC reminds me a lot of Ike Turner. He abused everyone around him, there is a very specific pattern the way these abusers start off, love bombing and excess attention, over the top gestures of "love". Everything is grandiose, part of the narcissism method of manipulating people.

Then, the "love bomb" tapers off, and the victim is coerced into doing things, to get back that "love bomb" attention and "relationship". What the victim thought was "love". Women who were abused as children are particularly susceptible to this, because it mimics the abusive relationship the child received.

Normal people, who grew up normally just don't understand the dynamic. The highs and lows, it is addictive, like being on heroin. Why do people crave something that is so terrible?! Because that is what they are used to.
 
  • #865
That is definitely the insidious part of a relationship with an abuser. I keep going back to Tina and Ike Turner, because SC reminds me a lot of Ike Turner. He abused everyone around him, there is a very specific pattern the way these abusers start off, love bombing and excess attention, over the top gestures of "love". Everything is grandiose, part of the narcissism method of manipulating people.

Then, the "love bomb" tapers off, and the victim is coerced into doing things, to get back that "love bomb" attention and "relationship". What the victim thought was "love". Women who were abused as children are particularly susceptible to this, because it mimics the abusive relationship the child received.

Normal people, who grew up normally just don't understand the dynamic. The highs and lows, it is addictive, like being on heroin. Why do people crave something that is so terrible?! Because that is what they are used to.
the demon you know. And yeah, that love bombing, followed by extreme emotional abuse, then back to the love bombing. People who haven't experienced love that isn't also abusive are particularly susceptible to such predatory grooming behavior.
 
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Here's the transcript of Jane's cross-exam testimony yesterday in which she testifies a rapper who is an icon in the music industry and his girlfriend see the same prostitute she and Diddy saw."He is very close with Mr. Combs, right?""Yes."

 
  • #869
Here's the transcript of Jane's cross-exam testimony yesterday in which she testifies a rapper who is an icon in the music industry and his girlfriend see the same prostitute she and Diddy saw."He is very close with Mr. Combs, right?""Yes."

This might be why Kayne showed up. His name was almost mentioned
 
  • #870
This might be why Kayne showed up. His name was almost mentioned
I thought the rapper in question and the girlfriend/spouse hadn't been named? Wasn't there some sort of order that they could not be? For some reason I was thinking that unnamed couple being referred to from the Vegas live sex show was Jay and Bey.
 
  • #871
I thought the rapper in question and the girlfriend/spouse hadn't been named? Wasn't there some sort of order that they could not be? For some reason I was thinking that unnamed couple being referred to from the Vegas live sex show was Jay and Bey.
They haven't been named. I was speculating. I'm pretty sure I could find out on X, as each unnamed witness becomes named there. What a lifestyle.
 
  • #872
I really hope the jury convicts this piece of filth! Seriously, his behavior sickens me!
 
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I really hope the jury convicts this piece of filth! Seriously, his behavior sickens me!

The power he held over people is disgusting. He viewed himself as though he was God. Now everyone knows that he is a sex addict and much of his time revolved around sex. What a catch! Ugh.
 
  • #875
The power he held over people is disgusting. He viewed himself as though he was God. Now everyone knows that he is a sex addict and much of his time revolved around sex. What a catch! Ugh.

I see prison in his near future.
 
  • #876
I see prison in his near future.

I hope so but I’ve seen a couple of articles saying that he is already winning some of the jurors over. Someone has to be following jurors around offering cash stacks.
 
  • #877
I hope so but I’ve seen a couple of articles saying that he is already winning some of the jurors over. Someone has to be following jurors around offering cash stacks.

No juror will fall for that. Enough is enough of him getting his way. I predict prison.

We will see.To accept $ for a not guilty is a serious felony crime and I do not believe any juror would risk it.

I see no signs of jurors taking his side, maybe I missed something but this is serious stuff and LE is being very careful with Dirty Diddy messing with jurors.

How I see it.

Who on earth thinks beating up women is cool? What a coward. I would like to see a guy beat the crap out of him.

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  • #878
No juror will fall for that. Enough is enough of him getting his way. I predict prison.

We will see.To accept $ for a not guilty is a serious felony crime and I do not believe any juror would risk it.

I see no signs of jurors taking his side, maybe I missed something but this is serious stuff and LE is being very careful with Dirty Diddy messing with jurors.

How I see it.

Who on earth thinks beating up women is cool? What a coward. I would like to see a guy beat the crap out of him.

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Agree 100% but look what he has been able to do to control people. He payed off the security guard to get the Cassie video. Some people will sell their souls for money and opportunity.
 
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No juror will fall for that. Enough is enough of him getting his way. I predict prison.

We will see.To accept $ for a not guilty is a serious felony crime and I do not believe any juror would risk it.

I see no signs of jurors taking his side, maybe I missed something but this is serious stuff and LE is being very careful with Dirty Diddy messing with jurors.

How I see it.

Who on earth thinks beating up women is cool? What a coward. I would like to see a guy beat the crap out of him.

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  • #880
Agree 100% but look what he has been able to do to control people. He payed off the security guard to get the Cassie video. Some people will sell their souls for money and opportunity.

All his phone calls and mail is watched. Anything he tries to do would be by getting someone else to do it. He can't. So he is being watched and watched more probably than most because of his unusual circumstances. Anyone who does his bidding is an idiot and can expect to wear an orange or whatever jump suit. Not worth it.

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