NY State Legalizes Gay Marriage !!!

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Good grief--I didn't even think of the tax mess. Married gay couples can now file their state income tax jointly, but not their federal income tax! How, Mr. President, can this be a "states' rights" issue? (Of course, when the president was born, technically his bi-racial birth was illegal in several states. But I suppose states' rights are the only way to go.)
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  • #63
Good grief--I didn't even think of the tax mess. Married gay couples can now file their state income tax jointly, but not their federal income tax! How, Mr. President, can this be a "states' rights" issue? (Of course, when the president was born, technically his bi-racial birth was illegal in several states. But I suppose states' rights are the only way to go.)
:rolleyes:

No, it should be a national issue. Even if each state decides who can get married there, each state should have to recognize marriages performed elsewhere.

The current law, DOMA ("Defense of Marriage Act"), is what we got from the GOP-controlled Congress and a pandering Democratic president (Clinton) in 1996.

Not only did it create the current crazy patchwork system of state-by-state marriage legality, but it codified special taxes on gay people.

Married gay people still have to file Federal returns as single people, AND WORSE, if one's gay spouse is insured by one's employer, one has to pay taxes on the cost of that insurance. It is considered "special income", even though the straight person sitting next to you doing the same job gets her spouse insured without any tax penalty.

The extra taxes would be one of those "special rights" that some people say gay people want.

(ETA I don't know about New York. But here in California, married people are REQUIRED to file jointly; if they are gay, they are required to file individually on the Federal side. Yes, we have an accountant.)
 
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Finally, thought this would have been the case long ago.

Goz
 
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No, it should be a national issue. Even if each state decides who can get married there, each state should have to recognize marriages performed elsewhere.

I totally agree with you, Nova. I was quoting Obama's stance in which he indicated gay marriage and/or civil unions could not be legislated federally due to "states' rights" which is a crazy view on his part considering his ethnicities and the illegality of that due to "states' rights" at the time of his birth.

Here in PA, marriage/civil unions are still illegal. Two of my friends had the traditional commitment ceremony this weekend. I hate the name of it. "Commitment ceremony" makes it sound like an intervention at a drug rehab facility or maybe a hospital for the mentally ill. Let anyone & everyone get married!
 
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I totally agree with you, Nova. I was quoting Obama's stance in which he indicated gay marriage and/or civil unions could not be legislated federally due to "states' rights" which is a crazy view on his part considering his ethnicities and the illegality of that due to "states' rights" at the time of his birth.

Here in PA, marriage/civil unions are still illegal. Two of my friends had the traditional commitment ceremony this weekend. I hate the name of it. "Commitment ceremony" makes it sound like an intervention at a drug rehab facility or maybe a hospital for the mentally ill. Let anyone & everyone get married!

Sorry, Pandora, I misunderstood.

Obama may be coming around. He has ordered the Justice Department to stop defending DOMA in court cases. Or at least to stop defending it very vigorously.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...ll-no-longer-defend-doma-in-legal-challenges/


http://www.christianpost.com/news/j...ient-appeal-to-challenges-against-doma-48499/
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2011/07/25/nyregion/20110725-READERMARRIAGE.html

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Niagara Rainbow Falls in honor of the weekend:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...niagara-falls/2011/07/25/gIQACY2UYI_blog.html

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After New York’s law legalizing same-sex marriage went into effect Sunday, hundreds of couples recited their vows before emerging out of the city courthouse to raucous cheers.

But the first legal wedding in New York happened somewhere a bit quieter: at Niagara Falls, where Kitty Lambert wed Cheryle Rudd. The two grandmothers from Buffalo “have been trying to wed for over a decade,” and have five children and 12 grandchildren between them.
 
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It embarrasses me, as a citizen of the United States of America, that gay marriage is still an issue.

My take on it, If gay marriage is against your religion, than do not marry a same sex partner. It really is that simple!
 
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It embarrasses me, as a citizen of the United States of America, that gay marriage is still an issue.

My take on it, If gay marriage is against your religion, than do not marry a same sex partner. It really is that simple!

Right there with you Linda7NJ.

I honestly thought NY was pro-marriage years ago anyway. How embarrassing.
 
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It embarrasses me, as a citizen of the United States of America, that gay marriage is still an issue.

My take on it, If gay marriage is against your religion, than do not marry a same sex partner. It really is that simple!

Worth repeating. It really is that simple.
 
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Congratulations to the newly married!
 
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My favorite saying is "Well I have lots of gay friends but I don't think gay marriage should be legal."

My response is always, "Thanks for letting me know you're a crappy friend. I won't bother."
 

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