GUILTY NY - Tessa Majors, 18, Barnard College student, fatally stabbed, Manhattan, 11 Dec 2019 *13yo arrest

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bbm
Exactly !
Thanks for pointing this out.
Some are too quick to assume he only handed the knife back; in some msm articles.

I don't believe he just picked up that knife.
A mugger who plans his activities after school the way some kids plan to go skateboarding, tells me this wasn't a new, after-school 'activity' for them.
13 years old can still be a hardened thief and/or murderer.
This was a frenzied and vicious attack.
I'm wondering if one of them covered her mouth so no one could hear her ?
How incredibly brazen to do this while still daylight hours --where anyone could've come across the murder while they were out for a walk ?
And who knows how many of those teens took part in Tessa's murder ?

It was after or around 7pm that she was attacked. So it was way past sunset by this time. For me, though, I wonder about their plan to go mugging after school. Were they hanging around the park from after school hours up until the time they killed Tessa? Looking for victims? Did they go home and come back out? I have a feeling JMO that there is probably not much supervision by the adults in their lives - for them to be in middle school and to be out and about after dark on a school night does quite support the best parenting. MOO

 

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DBM because this duplicate post will not go away. I enjoy WS, but this nonsense with this site. has to stop.

 

[LietKynes]

It was after or around 7pm that she was attacked. So it way past sunset by this time. For me, though, I wonder about their plan to go mugging after school. Were they hanging around the park from after school hours up until the time they killed Tessa? Looking for victims? Did they go home and come back out? I have a feeling JMO that there is probably not much supervision by the adults in their lives - for them to be in middle school and to be out and about after dark on a school night does quite support the best parenting. MOO

bbm
Chilling thought.
Agreed.
As a parent, you should know what your kids are doing or where they're at.
The aunt's defense of this possibly murderer speaks volumes.
And shows that their families will rally around them.
Not inconsequential as the families' allowing these teens to come and go as they pleased shows a lack of supervision.

 

[squareandrabbet]

It was after or around 7pm that she was attacked. So it was way past sunset by this time. For me, though, I wonder about their plan to go mugging after school. Were they hanging around the park from after school hours up until the time they killed Tessa? Looking for victims? Did they go home and come back out? I have a feeling JMO that there is probably not much supervision by the adults in their lives - for them to be in middle school and to be out and about after dark on a school night does quite support the best parenting. MOO

Yes, agreed. I live there now, and it's pretty much pitch black at 5:30 currently.

The ‘Little Kids’ Suspected in Tessa Majors’ Murder

But there wasn't much the cops could do, just as there was not much they could do when another of the teens stole a box of bite-sized cakes from the deli and when they threatened the 67-year-old manager, Rachid Ousaji. He had the audacity to tell them “Don’t steal” and they challenged him to come out from behind the counter, intimating they would do him bodily harm.

“They start talking bad; ‘Come over and I will show you,’” Ousaji recalled on Friday.

The teens had hit the man who worked the counter in the afternoon in the face with a snowball.

“They robbing the store, I told them to stop,” the man recalled.

The afternoon counterman had made another of many calls of his own to the police in recent weeks.

“I call, I call, I call,” he reported on Friday. “Sometimes, I’m shamed to always call 911.”

The people who run the deli say the kids often spoke of committing robberies. The woman said she heard some time back that they had robbed somebody in Morningside Park, a block away.

On Wednesday evening, the whole city heard of another robbery in the park, this involving a knife and resulting in the death of Tessa Majors, an incandescent 18-year-old Barnard College freshman from Virginia.

“The first thing that came to mind was those kids,” the woman behind the counter recalled.

 

[JoeFromLB]

From what I've read elsewhere, the 13-year old little gangster was being raised by his aunt and uncle. No mention of father or mother. I would be interested in hearing more about the aunt and uncle, such as any criminal background, ages, etc.
His name is being floated around the internet but I won't post it here in case the rules apply. He has been charged with murder, though.

 

[kaen]

From what I've read elsewhere, the 13-year old little gangster was being raised by his aunt and uncle. No mention of father or mother. I would be interested in hearing more about the aunt and uncle, such as any criminal background, ages, etc.
His name is being floated around the internet but I won't post it here in case the rules apply. He has been charged with murder, though.

This is no doubt a heinous crime. I think that all who murdered Tessa should be held to account. But, it is inappropriate to start to lionize their families. The family didn't kill Tessa. Allegedly, these young men did and, according to TOS, the young men who are arrested as killers are fair game to discuss but families are not.

 

[LietKynes]

Yes, agreed. I live there now, and it's pretty much pitch black at 5:30 currently.

The ‘Little Kids’ Suspected in Tessa Majors’ Murder

Hoping the other person(s) they robbed in the park will come forward.

 

[kaen]

Yes, agreed. I live there now, and it's pretty much pitch black at 5:30 currently.

The ‘Little Kids’ Suspected in Tessa Majors’ Murder

Sounds like people in the neighborhood have been trying to make reports and there has been very little done. If this has been the case, why no stepped up patrols? Why is it that these kids are running rough shod over the people in the building?

 

[Gardenista]

Tessa Majors murder: Heartbreaking video of teen performing before her death emerges

https://nypost.com/2019/12/13/tessa...-of-teen-performing-before-her-death-emerges/

 

[squareandrabbet]

Sounds like people in the neighborhood have been trying to make reports and there has been very little done. If this has been the case, why no stepped up patrols? Why is it that these kids are running rough shod over the people in the building?

I assume we're going to find out over the coming weeks, or at least find members of the press who attempt to explain.

Unfortunately, I would bet at least part of the answer is probably going to be political and thus outside TOS to discuss much, because the NYPD gets its authority from the mayor.

I'm also pretty sure that the juvenile authorities are not getting the support they need to bring these barely-teens into the civilized world, because you can't treat them like grown adults, and always have to assume they're redeemable.

This batch doesn't seem particularly redeemable, especially if the NYPD has been calling them out as often as they have; and they've definitely flipped the scale from childish hi-jinks at this point.

 

[MJPeony]

Apologies if this has already been posted. This article has quite a few photos at the bottom- several crime scene area photos and gives a pretty good idea of what the area looks like.

18-year-old from Charlottesville stabbed to death near college campus in New York City

 

[epiphany]

<snip> Criminal charges were voided early Saturday against a 14-year-old boy suspected in the murder of Barnard College student Tessa Majors as cops continue to hunt for two teens responsible for the killing, officials and sources said.

It was not immediately clear if the teen is still considered a suspect in Majors’ death or is still being questioned. The NYPD would not say why the charges were dropped Saturday.

No other arrests had been made as of Saturday afternoon, officials said.

Charges dropped against 14-year-old grabbed for Barnard College student killing

 

[LietKynes]

This is no doubt a heinous crime. I think that all who murdered Tessa should be held to account. But, it is inappropriate to start to lionize their families. The family didn't kill Tessa. Allegedly, these young men did and, according to TOS, the young men who are arrested as killers are fair game to discuss but families are not.

Agreed with your post.

Due to the age of the perps in question no doubt the id's of the families will be withheld.
Which is right.

The problem imo is that esp. with the 13 year old but also the 14 yr. old; these weren't adults.
Not even 18 yet.
So they were in someone's care and responsibility.

They had homes and I'm assuming adults were in charge.
What did their parents/aunt or uncles/guardians know ?
Did they ever show up at home with electronics pr other goods that they didn't own nor could afford ?
Were questions asked ?
In a very general sense-- yes, I want to know something about their background and if there were warning signs that were ignored or missed ?
I agree with you --- Not their names or residences or anything else.

The general home life.
These were still 'kids' in some people's opinions.

Someone was responsible for their actions; and it'd be the same if the crime was committed by a 12 year old.
Sorry if this sounds wrong-- but I think that in some cases the parents or adults hold some responsibility.
Or at least have uncomfortable questions asked.

 

[happyday]

From what I've read elsewhere, the 13-year old little gangster was being raised by his aunt and uncle. No mention of father or mother. I would be interested in hearing more about the aunt and uncle, such as any criminal background, ages, etc.
His name is being floated around the internet but I won't post it here in case the rules apply. He has been charged with murder, though.

One of the articles from yesterday said his mother is deceased.

 

[DropthePuck]

This is no doubt a heinous crime. I think that all who murdered Tessa should be held to account. But, it is inappropriate to start to lionize their families. The family didn't kill Tessa. Allegedly, these young men did and, according to TOS, the young men who are arrested as killers are fair game to discuss but families are not.

No, they didn't. But why weren't they properly supervising the kid? He's 13 and obviously in need of guidance and discipline that he was not getting. And if the aunt and uncle took it upon themselves to be responsible for him and raise him (legally or otherwise), they are responsible for ensuring he gets that guidance and discipline, IMO. And then the aunt pipes up in the news defending him?? It's frustrating and tiresome. 12, 13, 14 year old kids should not be out terrorizing the neighborhood (or any age kid, really).

 

[DropthePuck]

Agreed with your post.

Due to the age of the perps in question no doubt the id's of the families will be withheld.
Which is right.

The problem imo is that esp. with the 13 year old but also the 14 yr. old; these weren't adults.
Not even 18 yet.
So they were in someone's care and responsibility.

They had homes and I'm assuming adults were in charge.
What did their parents/aunt or uncles/guardians know ?
Did they ever show up at home with electronics pr other goods that they didn't own nor could afford ?
Were questions asked ?
In a very general sense-- yes, I want to know something about their background and if there were warning signs that were ignored or missed ?
I agree with you --- Not their names or residences or anything else.

The general home life.
These were still 'kids' in some people's opinions.

Someone was responsible for their actions; and it'd be the same if the crime was committed by a 12 year old.
Sorry if this sounds wrong-- but I think that in some cases the parents or adults hold some responsibility.
Or at least have uncomfortable questions asked.

YES!!! Amen to this. I agree with everything you said.

 

[squareandrabbet]

No, they didn't. But why weren't they properly supervising the kid? He's 13 and obviously in need of guidance and discipline that he was not getting. And if the aunt and uncle took it upon themselves to be responsible for him and raise him (legally or otherwise), they are responsible for ensuring he gets that guidance and discipline, IMO. And then the aunt pipes up in the news defending him?? It's frustrating and tiresome. 12, 13, 14 year old kids should not be out terrorizing the neighborhood (or any age kid, really).

Yeah, the aunt doesn't know he's the scourge of the neighborhood bothering everybody?? It sounded to me like the police have had to bring him home at least once before.

Also, let's not forget that there are girls of equal age in this gang, which makes me shudder.

 

[jaejae]

Here is a Sky News report about this case:

Boy, 13, charged with murder after college student stabbed to death

 

[LietKynes]

Now the victim blaming has started.
Shame on the NY PD.
This is unnecessary.

Tessa Majors was looking to buy weed before her murder: police union president
“Here we have a student murdered by a 13-year-old, we have a common denominator: marijuana,” said Mullins, referring to the 18-year-old Majors and one of her alleged killers, 13-year-old Zyairr Davis, whom neighbors have said smokes weed.
Police sources confirmed to The Post that they are investigating the claim that Majors was in the park to score weed, a detail that came from a college friend of the victim...." emph. mine

With friends like that....and the police union pres. just publicizes this based on a college friend's gossip.
Unbelievable.

The killer has been publicly named and can be sleuthed.
Only him and any other perps who are arrested.

If you can brutally slaughter an innocent person, you can have your name put out there.
Regardless this ZD will be protected whilst incarcerated !

‘Little Kids’ Suspected in Fatal Stabbing of Barnard College Freshman Tessa Majors

"... Five days before 18-year-old Barnard College student Tessa Majorswas slashed to death in Morningside Park at the edge of campus, a younger teenage girl was chased into the 118 Deli one block further away.
The younger girl lost her footing as a boy who would prove to be 13 came in after her.
“He kicked her on the floor,” the woman behind the counter would recall. “Situation like that, all I know is I got to call the cops. Once I see something like that, I’m calling the cops.”
The counterwoman, who declined to give a reporter her name, made the call. She then took a cellphone photo through the deli window of the boy after he rejoined four other young teens out on Manhattan Avenue, two male, two female...." emph. mine

The employee was probably terrified that either the teens or someone known to them would return and exact revenge.
If the police had arrested these teens -- Tessa would be alive today.
Think about that.

Eta : From the second link : No, they were most certainly NOT "Little kids".
Smh.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Now the victim blaming has started.
Shame on the NY PD.
This is unnecessary.

Tessa Majors was looking to buy weed before her murder: police union president
“Here we have a student murdered by a 13-year-old, we have a common denominator: marijuana,” said Mullins, referring to the 18-year-old Majors and one of her alleged killers, 13-year-old Zyairr Davis, whom neighbors have said smokes weed.
Police sources confirmed to The Post that they are investigating the claim that Majors was in the park to score weed, a detail that came from a college friend of the victim...." emph. mine

With friends like that....and the police union pres. just publicizes this based on a college friend's gossip.
Unbelievable.

The killer has been publicly named and can be sleuthed.
Just him and any other perps who are arrested.

If you can brutally slaughter an innocent person, you can have your name put out there.
Regardless this ZD will be protected whilst incarcerated !

‘Little Kids’ Suspected in Fatal Stabbing of Barnard College Freshman Tessa Majors

"... Five days before 18-year-old Barnard College student Tessa Majorswas slashed to death in Morningside Park at the edge of campus, a younger teenage girl was chased into the 118 Deli one block further away.
The younger girl lost her footing as a boy who would prove to be 13 came in after her.
“He kicked her on the floor,” the woman behind the counter would recall. “Situation like that, all I know is I got to call the cops. Once I see something like that, I’m calling the cops.”
The counterwoman, who declined to give a reporter her name, made the call. She then took a cellphone photo through the deli window of the boy after he rejoined four other young teens out on Manhattan Avenue, two male, two female...." emph. mine

The employee was probably terrified that either the teens or someone known to them would return and exact revenge.
If the police had arrested these teens -- Tessa would be alive today.
Think about that.

And yet... here it comes...

“I understand the mayor made statements that this is surprising on how this can happen in New York City,” he said. “I really have to question what world he’s living in to think that this is surprising, when we are watching the city slowly erode, with shootings, stabbings, an increase in homicides and, most importantly, a hands-off policing policy.

“Something needs to change and it needs to change quickly or it’s gonna be very difficult to put the genie back in the bottle.”