NY - Two firefighters & woman slain, 3 injured in Webster ambush, 24 Dec 2012

[Steely Dan]

The gunmen is dead. Nobody knows why he did it. wfgodot has a name above, but I haven't seen any confirmation.

 

[Lois Lane]

...Theodore Scardino and Joseph Hofsetter suffered serious injuries and were being treated in the ICU unit of Strong Memorial Hospital, according to Dr. Nicole Staffen, who treated both patients.

Scardino was shot twice, Staffen said -- one bullet went through his left lung and broke his shoulder blade, and the other injured his right knee. Hofsetter was shot in the pelvis, and the bullet was lodged against his spinal bone, Staffen said.

"Neither gentleman is currently on a ventilator," Staffen said. "Both are awake, alert, with good blood pressure. Both have significant injuries."

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/nati...hters-Responding-to-House-Fire-184678511.html

 

[wfgodot]

The gunmen is dead. Nobody knows why he did it. wfgodot has a name above, but I haven't seen any confirmation.

Name reported by 13-WHAM as being on deed of one of affected properties is "Spengler."

 

[Steely Dan]

From what they're saying now it appears the gunman died of a self inflicted gunshot wound.

That ruined Christmas' to come for a great many people. I wish he was alive so they could question him.

 

[lunchbox]

Unbelievable....

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[Lois Lane]

BBM

The firefighters were from the West Webster Fire Department, about four miles from the blaze, and were believed to be volunteers.

As he recited the names of the four firefighters at a news conference, Chief Pickering repeatedly choked up. One of the deceased, Michael J. Chiapperini, was a police lieutenant in the Webster Police Department.

“These people get up in the middle of the night to go put out fires,” he said. “They don’t expect to be shot and killed.”

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said that State Police and the Office of Emergency Management were working with local officials. He said that Webster firefighters and the police had initially responded to a car fire.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/25/nyregion/2-firefighters-killed-in-western-new-york.html

 

[Steely Dan]

Supposedly there is going to be another news conference at 2pm

 

[Steely Dan]

4 homes destroyed and four more burned. I believe that's what they said.

 

[Lois Lane]

BBM

Police identified the other firefighter killed as Tomasz Kaczowka, who WHAM reported also was a 911 dispatcher.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighte...bster-ny-blaze/story?id=18055594#.UNiYGeTAc7o

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

DH and I had just finished breakfast when we heard about this senseless shooting in the car on our way to the market. It's Christmas Eve, firefighters respond to an emergency to save lives/property, and are shot as they performed their duties :banghead: What is this world coming to?

 

[wfgodot]

Emergency scanner traffic as incident in Webster unfolded:

https://soundcloud.com/producermatthew/emergency-scanner-traffic-2

"It's going to be a rifle or shotgun, high-powered....semi- or fully auto."

 

[matou]

"There was some pursuit on foot," and the shooter was found outside the home on the north side of the road, Pickering said. No other people were being sought and the area is now safe, he said. Police recovered both a body and the weapon used. He wouldn't describe the weapon.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/24/firefighters-shot-rochester.html

 

[matou]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD57C0StzeA"]Raw: 4 Firefighters Shot, 2 Dead in Western N.Y. - YouTube[/ame]

Raw video from the Associated Press of the fire.

 

[matou]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6yw__m8CF4"]Police Describe Shooting of N.Y. Firefighters - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Ricki]

From what they're saying now it appears the gunman died of a self inflicted gunshot wound.

That ruined Christmas' to come for a great many people. I wish he was alive so they could question him.

I don't get why they have to take others with them to their grave when gunman has all intentions of killing himself.

 

[Steely Dan]

This is the Google Earth picture of the scene.

 

[MsFacetious]

WTF is wrong with these people?! lease:

 

[Steely Dan]

This picture shows something very controversial that occurred about 20 years ago. There used to be a bridge at the circled area. People who housed their boats in the bay cried that they couldn't get their boats out on to Lake Ontario because there was a road across the outlet.

The local residents were very angry because where you see his house it takes about an additional 20 minutes to get to the hospital once the road across the bay outlet was removed. The state didn't want to put in a lift bridge and basically gave the finger to those residents. So I'm assuming it took an additional 20 minutes for the firefighters to get to the hospital.

My brother and I are at very different ends of the political spectrum. He sided with the boat owners. I sided with the people who had started a "Bridge It" campaign. I couldn't and still can't understand it. The people who housed their boats in the bay knew when they housed them there that they would only be able to use the bay. Since the people who owned the boats probably have a lot more money and political pull they won out, and the local residents didn't.

It doesn't have much to do with this situation, but when you have two people relying on getting to the hospital it does to me.

 

[Steely Dan]

There should be another press conference coming up at 2pm.

 

[Steely Dan]

They're awaiting the start of the press conference.