NYC gym teacher claims 6-year-old student beat him up

[Linda7NJ]

I doubt the parents would teach them anything about behaving in class. They'd probably sue the school for not letting their child attend. When my daughter was in high school students would be suspended for their behavior and you would either see them walking around during the day or they saw it as a vacation.

Maybe the parents should have to go to a special class WITH the child and help the teacher teach their kid how to behave, sit still, listen, etc.

IMO a teachers job isn't to teach a child to sit. The parents have already failed miserably. What will actually happen....they'll slap some label on him and toss him in a self contained classroom with the rest of the animal like children and he can learn even more inappropriate behaviors.

 

[Sheromom]

It's scary that some parents even laugh when their kids do stuff like this. Sometimes I see kids in public and I want to spank them. Someone needs to! I remember being in a grocery line and trying to make conversation with a toddler in a cart and the brat tried to kick me and told me "shut the eff up stupid!" I fear for the future!

LOL! One time my husband and I were at a carnival and there was a teen girl SPITTING as she rode the Scrambler. Being old, we waited until she was off and sort of screeched at her? Thankfully, she turned submissive.....But yes....someone NEEDS to.....and it just might be us.....it takes a community to raise a child!

 

[Mama-cita]

LOL! One time my husband and I were at a carnival and there was a teen girl SPITTING as she rode the Scrambler. Being old, we waited until she was off and sort of screeched at her? Thankfully, she turned submissive.....But yes....someone NEEDS to.....and it just might be us.....it takes a community to raise a child!

Glad she didn't spit on you!! Sounds like she was a "tough girl" who couldn't handle someone standing up to her!!!

 

[Reality Orlando]

I worked in the inner city for many years with children where violence was rampant. We had 5 teachers out on assault leave (arm broken when kids crushed her arm in a door, pushed down stairs, etc). I had a kindergartener tell me he was "gonna bust a cap in my azz" when I stopped him from attacking another child. He meant it and i know he had access to guns in his home.

Violence is rampant in schools today. Our school district responded by sending a lawyer to tell us how to deal with a violent child. We were told to respond by raising both hands in the air, so that the child couldn't accuse us of touching them because the school would be sued for simply touching them, pushing them away, or defending ourselves.

This is a large part of why I would not teach in public schools again. I did not spend years and thousands of dollars to get an education so that I could be abused and attacked and then be sued for merely defending myself (or lied about, even I never even touched the child).

There must be an increase in child onset mental illness or dope and booze in adults at home. It's not normal behavior at all. Too bad no states have any money to set up special schools with extra specially trained teachers, aides, counselors, etc. Where they get full curriculum. The troubled and older ones with juvie records are thrown in with the rest and expected to behave but some of them can't.

Many districts used to have schools like that, but parents fought for "mainstreaming" into the regular classrooms. Could be a troubled kid who is in a program but mainstreamed into art, gym, etc. I've always thought maintstreaming deprived kids of much needed programs where they actually did better in more structured setups.

 

[Mama-cita]

Many districts used to have schools like that, but parents fought for "mainstreaming" into the regular classrooms. Could be a troubled kid who is in a program but mainstreamed into art, gym, etc. I've always thought maintstreaming deprived kids of much needed programs where they actually did better in more structured setups.

I feel like in many situations mainstreaming hurts ALL the kids. The kids with the issue don't get the structure, and the kids without the issue sometimes are deprived of learning because of the issued kids acting out. Not to mention the stress on the teachers!!

 

[oh_gal]

It's scary that some parents even laugh when their kids do stuff like this. Sometimes I see kids in public and I want to spank them. Someone needs to! I remember being in a grocery line and trying to make conversation with a toddler in a cart and the brat tried to kick me and told me "shut the eff up stupid!" I fear for the future!

The problem is if you dare to discipline your child in public, you run the risk of someone who doesn't believe in spanking calling CPS on you.

And my hat is off to teachers. You aren't paid what you deserve for what you have to put up with.

 

[butwhatif?]

I feel badly for this teacher and all teachers who have to deal with behavioural issues that parents have created or not dealt with appropriately.
I think teachers are terribly underpaid for the amount of responsibility placed on them.
Having said that, while I respect everyone's right to their own opinion, I'm reading some really unfortunate ignorance here.
Somehow 'out of control, violent kids' got grouped in with genuinely disordered kids.
I actually like the suggestion that the parents should have to attend school with their child rather than suspension when it results from garden variety bad behaviour. Often, parents of disordered children are already spending a significant amount of time at their child's school.
But regarding main-streaming, people have to understand that not all parents of disordered kids have mainstreaming as their first choice. Sometimes their only choice is mainstreaming, homeschooling which puts the burden entirely on an already overwhelmed parent or leaving them in a special needs home.
The education system in Australia, the US and UK are not set up to support the needs of all students. Often there aren't any placements at special ed schools for those who have disorders regardless of if they are physical, intellectual or emotional/behavioural. Even for the ones who do get placements, they face the very same problem: they are all lumped together, despite their needs being completely different. So that could leave completely defenceless physically disabled kids in a class with violent kids with 1 or 2 teachers to deal with them all.
It's not even close to fixing the problem. It's just getting the problem out of mainsteam schools.
How can we eliminate the problem of parents who just don't care enough to teach their regular, neurotypical kids the most basic value of respect for others -not just authority figures.
Can't wait to see this movie: [video=youtube;lvYPxZpstkE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvYPxZpstkE[/video]

 

[Sonya610]

The problem is if you dare to discipline your child in public, you run the risk of someone who doesn't believe in spanking calling CPS on you.

That is why you don't wait until they are acting up and embarrassing you in public! Put the fear of God into them at HOME!

When they are little it is easy to scare them without hurting them. When parents wait until they have a "serious problem" then things are a lot more complicated.

 

[Mama-cita]

That is why you don't wait until they are acting up and embarrassing you in public! Put the fear of God into them at HOME!

When they are little it is easy to scare them without hurting them. When parents wait until they have a "serious problem" then things are a lot more complicated.

I love when parents laugh off bratty behavior as "cute." I know when I was a kid, if I would have talked to my
Mom the way I see some kids talk to their parents it would have been the last time I ever talked to anyone like that! And it doesn't always have to involve a spank! I remember being at a birthday party a few years ago, with 7 year olds.
This kid (not the birthday boy) whose mom was helping cut cake wanted a piece with the red balloon. When he didn't get one he started screaming like a demon. He was kicking her, telling her to shut her fat ass, he spit at her. The mother did NOTHING! If my kid had ever acted like that I would have IMMEDIATELY removed him from the party and taken away the toys and priveleges most important to him. this lady didnt even remove the kids from the party! Why reward that behavior?It teaches him it is ok. Needless to say when this tirade started I removed my children from the party. When we were leaving my son (7) said "Wow that was awful! I can't believe anyone would ever act like that!" My kids aren't perfect, no child is, but they know that there are unpleasant consequences to unpleasant actions!

 

[Jovi Girl]

My children were darlings out in public. Teachers and friends parents would tell me how wonderful they were. I wanted to invite them to our house to see the REAL child they were referring to. LOL They just always behaved well around other people. They saved the monster behavior for home. That was fine. When I would mention something to other moms about something naughty they did, the other moms would look at me and say "I can't believe she would do that." No children are perfect, but I guess some of us have easier kids. I really don't know what I would do if my children were out of control at school. It certainly would not be the teacher's or school responsibility to deal with them.

 

[PMLsmom]

My children were darlings out in public. Teachers and friends parents would tell me how wonderful they were. I wanted to invite them to our house to see the REAL child they were referring to. LOL They just always behaved well around other people. They saved the monster behavior for home. That was fine. When I would mention something to other moms about something naughty they did, the other moms would look at me and say "I can't believe she would do that." No children are perfect, but I guess some of us have easier kids. I really don't know what I would do if my children were out of control at school. It certainly would not be the teacher's or school responsibility to deal with them.

LOL, THIS was my DS. I referred to him as Jekyll & Hyde.