OH - 2 bodies found at trailer park where reporter was reported missing, Wood County, 12 Nov 2018

[asmi106082]

Is the grandmother who recently died Robert's mother?

I wonder where Nikki and Robert agreed to meet?

Did they go to the bar?

It was her maternal grandmother.

 

[1&2&3]

In divorced couples where children are young, if one of the parents move out of town, the children loose contact with the other side’s family.

The other side does not want to go to the ex’s house to pick up children for a play date or over night. Likewise, the parent still in town doesn’t want to take the child over to the other side’s house.

It is a terrible situation for children to grow up in. Sometimes there are people on the other side who want to stay in contact, and they will get in touch with the ex to let them know.

This sounds like what happened here. The father’s brother did not keep in contact with his niece. Understandable in a way.

After reading what is known, it made me wonder if this uncle was to receive his brother’s estate since the daughter was no longer in the picture. Her reappearance would change all that, Uncle was in a rage due to these facts, and wasn’t going to let her have it. Just like many other cases, they then kill themself, go to jail for life, etc. *SPECULATION*

 

[Crosby87]

It was her maternal grandmother.

Is Robert related Nikki's maternal grandmother? If so, how?

 

[Inthedetails]

Is Robert related Nikki's maternal grandmother? If so, how?

I'm confused about the family tree too. I think Nikki's maternal grandmother passed away recently, which made her want to connect to her paternal side of the family. That's my understanding - and seems like a normal response to a death in the family. The loss can make you desire to strengthen family connections.

I think the uncle was her father's brother. ?

I might have that mixed up!

jmo

 

[Indy Anna]

Is the grandmother who recently died Robert's mother?

I wonder where Nikki and Robert agreed to meet?

Did they go to the bar?

Maternal g'ma recently died:

Mother says slain cleveland.com culture reporter Nikki Delamotte ‘flourished' in and loved Cleveland

Ullman was still processing the situation as she sat with two cleveland.com reporters at her kitchen table. Her emotions were raw; she has now lost her 98-year-old mother and 30-year-old daughter in the same year.

[...]

Delamotte was known for her kindness and willingness to help people, which was evident in the last months of her life. The death of Delamotte’s maternal grandmother caused her to reach out to members of her father’s family, many of whom she had been estranged from for years, Ullman said.

That included Delamotte’s uncle, Robert. Ullman said her daughter had fond memories of her uncle from when she was younger, describing her as being “the apple of his eye.”

The pair met up once before last month, around the time of a memorial dinner the family held for Ullman’s mother. The plan was to meet up with her uncle on Sunday and go to a Perrysburg Township bar to watch the Miami Dolphins play the Green Bay Packers.

answers some of my questions, too.

 

[katydid23]

I wonder what prompted her to go visit her estranged uncle, after all this time?

And I wonder what triggered that violent, brutal response?

I have to put this out there....I was estranged from my uncle, by my choosing. I was a victim of his sexual abuse, but I never told anyone until I was in my 30's. Could she have wanted to discuss something, uncomfortable, with him at that time?

 

[Jennifer17]

I wonder what prompted her to go visit her estranged uncle, after all this time?

And I wonder what triggered that violent, brutal response?

I have to put this out there....I was estranged from my uncle, by my choosing. I was a victim of his sexual abuse, but I never told anyone until I was in my 30's. Could she have wanted to discuss something, uncomfortable, with him at that time?

I have wondered that too.

 

[marsyao]

I have to put this out there....I was estranged from my uncle, by my choosing. I was a victim of his sexual abuse, but I never told anyone until I was in my 30's. Could she have wanted to discuss something, uncomfortable, with him at that time?

If this is the case, why would she contact her uncle after so many years? Especially she planed to spend alone time with him, watching football in bars and having drinks? I think the cause was in the past, some kind of bitter family feud

 

[Indy Anna]

If this is the case, why would she contact her uncle after so many years? Especially she planed to spend alone time with him, watching football in bars and having drinks? I think the cause was in the past, some kind of bitter family feud

BBM Exactly, and per the article I posted above:

That included Delamotte’s uncle, Robert. Ullman said her daughter had fond memories of her uncle from when she was younger, describing her as being “the apple of his eye.”

The pair met up once before last month, around the time of a memorial dinner the family held for Ullman’s mother.

Mother says slain cleveland.com culture reporter Nikki Delamotte ‘flourished' in and loved Cleveland

I doubt we'll ever know what precipitated the violent response.

 

[Razz]

I wonder what prompted her to go visit her estranged uncle, after all this time?

And I wonder what triggered that violent, brutal response?

I have to put this out there....I was estranged from my uncle, by my choosing. I was a victim of his sexual abuse, but I never told anyone until I was in my 30's. Could she have wanted to discuss something, uncomfortable, with him at that time?

There is something about being in your thirties that forces you to face bad things head on. Growing up, having kids? Not sure but that's what made me think there was more to this meeting than just reconnecting. Jmo.

 

[newshound6]

Early on in the reporting I read that Nikki saw her uncle walking on the road there In Perrysburg and set up the football watching get together for the next month.This general area is where her mother lived and where Nikki grew up

 

[katydid23]

If this is the case, why would she contact her uncle after so many years? Especially she planed to spend alone time with him, watching football in bars and having drinks? I think the cause was in the past, some kind of bitter family feud

I don't know. But it is a complicated thing and one's feelings can be very confused, if it is childhood abuse. As said in one interview, 'she was the apple of his eye' and very close to him. And yet they had been estranged?

I loved my uncle very much. Strangely enough, even after he had been sexually abusing me, I still loved him because he treated me like his little girlfriend. He walked us home from school everyday and stayed with us until our Mom returned from work. So he helped with homework, and played games with us, and treated us great. Except for that few minutes most days, where we had our secret play time.

My parents had just divorced and I missed my Dad. So my uncle had the perfect opportunity to groom me, and exploit me to be his little girlfriend because I wanted the attention so badly.

I could easily see her meeting up with him. She was now grown up and he was 67. She was probably not afraid of being alone with him anymore. But she may have wanted to speak to him, alone. And express things she had never been able to before?

It is just really hard for me to think of what other kinds of issues would trigger this kind of sudden violence? What kind of family feud would involve her and her uncle, whom she hadn't seen in years?

I am probably wrong because of my own personal bias and history. But this particular situation just smells like it involves something unsavory from his past. JMO

 

[marsyao]

I don't know. But it is a complicated thing and one's feelings can be very confused, if it is childhood abuse. As said in one interview, 'she was the apple of his eye' and very close to him. And yet they had been estranged?

After her parents got divorced, her mother got custody and they moved, if this occurred when she was very young of age, I won't be surprise they had been estranged. So far we heard nothing remotely relate to sexual abuse, all we know are that her mother said she had very fond of memory of her uncle, an she was glad to re-connect with him. So I would think there may have some kind of family feud, bad divorce, inheritance debate etc. and she was too young at that time to remembering it

 

[katydid23]

After her parents got divorced, her mother got custody and they moved, if this occurred when she was very young of age, I won't be surprise they had been estranged. So far we heard nothing remotely relate to sexual abuse, all we know are that her mother said she had very fond of memory of her uncle, an she was glad to re-connect with him. So I would think there may have some kind of family feud, bad divorce, inheritance debate etc. and she was too young at that time to remembering it

but why would he want to kill his niece, who he hadn't seen in ages?

 

[Jennifer17]

but why would he want to kill his niece, who he hadn't seen in ages?

Yes, very suspicious.

 

[marsyao]

but why would he want to kill his niece, who he hadn't seen in ages?

I do not know, his uncle, according to his neighbors, was not a violent man, and he did not have criminal records, I could only guess that there was some very bitter family feud in the past, and that led to some argument, and then end with murder-suicide

 

[Indy Anna]

I don't know. But it is a complicated thing and one's feelings can be very confused, if it is childhood abuse. As said in one interview, 'she was the apple of his eye' and very close to him. And yet they had been estranged?

I loved my uncle very much. Strangely enough, even after he had been sexually abusing me, I still loved him because he treated me like his little girlfriend. He walked us home from school everyday and stayed with us until our Mom returned from work. So he helped with homework, and played games with us, and treated us great. Except for that few minutes most days, where we had our secret play time.

My parents had just divorced and I missed my Dad. So my uncle had the perfect opportunity to groom me, and exploit me to be his little girlfriend because I wanted the attention so badly.

I could easily see her meeting up with him. She was now grown up and he was 67. She was probably not afraid of being alone with him anymore. But she may have wanted to speak to him, alone. And express things she had never been able to before?

It is just really hard for me to think of what other kinds of issues would trigger this kind of sudden violence? What kind of family feud would involve her and her uncle, whom she hadn't seen in years?

I am probably wrong because of my own personal bias and history. But this particular situation just smells like it involves something unsavory from his past. JMO

If it had been a situation like this, I couldn't imagine wanting to see him once I was an adult and had that choice. But, if it was a situation like you describe, perhaps she did have some fond memories of her uncle and thought he was too old to pose a threat. But, maybe once they were alone he made some unwelcome advances and she resisted, which made him angry? IDK.

Even before my parents divorced, I didn't see much of my dad's family. When I reconnected with my dad before he died, he revealed that one of my uncles (his brother) would make advances toward, even sexually assaulting at times, women and teen girls. My dad and other family members were too afraid of my uncle to say anything (they said he would "kill them" and were serious). He was in his 80's at the time. That made me realize that an SO at any age is a threat. I had no desire to reconnect with him.

 

[marsyao]

If it had been a situation like this, I couldn't imagine wanting to see him once I was an adult and had that choice. But, if it was a situation like you describe, perhaps she did have some fond memories of her uncle and thought he was too old to pose a threat. But, maybe once they were alone he made some unwelcome advances and she resisted, which made him angry? IDK.
.

If we assume the adults kept their feud among themselves, and she was just a little child and maybe not know anything about it. Her mother knew she was going to visit her uncle and obviously did not try to stop her, so if there was really a feud, both her mother and herself never thought her uncle would still keep a grudge after so many years. Then they met, her uncle started saying bad word about her mother, this could lead to an argument, and things went out of hand

 

[katydid23]

I do not know, his uncle, according to his neighbors, was not a violent man, and he did not have criminal records, I could only guess that there was some very bitter family feud in the past, and that led to some argument, and then end with murder-suicide

They may not have thought he was a violent man---but that was a pretty violent reaction he had to her visit.

If there had been a bitter family feud, why would her mother let her go see him alone?

 

[doozle]

Cleveland.com reporter Nikki Delamotte’s uncle fatally shot her before killing himself, authorities say

I found this interesting, from this article:

"Ullman, who lives in Toledo, said Wednesday that detectives told her they found a copy of her daughter’s book and some photos of her uncle when he was a child in the trailer. Delamotte brought that all to her uncle. She found the photos when going through pictures with her mother before heading to Perrysburg Township, Ullman said."

Maybe he had resentment over her success in Cleveland? Or maybe the old photos reminded Nikki of a happy time, but the uncle may not share such happy memories?

I find odd that no one in the trailer park heard 4 gunshots on an early Sunday evening. (I believe she was shot soon after arriving, since she left her cell phone & other belongings in the car.). Probably was supposed to be a quick pickup to get to the bar for the game. MOO