GUILTY OH - Ashley Zhao, 5, Jackson Township, 10 Jan 2017

[Roxie Rosa]

Often a patient with a severe head injury throws up, and sometimes with a seizure as well. Perhaps there was nothing in her belly to throw up, except bile????

She was probably vomiting bile.

 

[jjenny]

Maybe I'm just overly sympathetic in this case. I don't know. Something about this case screams desperation and an out cry for help that was never answered.

I used to get so angry at mothers who killed their children. How could you kill something that you grew inside you for 10 months??? I've had 2 miscarriages and always felt some kind of jealousy I guess.

But as a social worker and offender advocate (mostly men offenders) I try to see all sides and ways to prevent this in the future.

So maybe a way to have prevented this was the Mom have days off and getting treatment. Getting burnt out, depressed and overly stressed (like working 7 days a week) will cause physical symptoms of sickness as well.


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There got to be better ways of crying for help then beating the crap out of your kid.

 

[kammiemc]

Does anyone else find it odd that on both parents FB there is no pics of the other little girl? In one you can see a child's arm but that is it. Probably more that are private. I get not wanting to put your child's pictures on fb but why post one child and not the other if that is the case.


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I don't think it would be reaching too far to suggest that it's possible that this wasn't the first time the mom had beaten the daughter. And if so, probably wouldn't want people seeing her condition in pics (or in person).


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[digginin]

i would also like to know. It is terrible what is happening towards children. I am constantly busy with the McCann and Ramsey stories. Even had a dream speaking to poor maddie:thinking:.

 

[digginin]

Another child beaten to death by an adult here? :gaah:

 

[MissUnderstood]

Is anyone else confused about all the days the restaurant closed due to illness??? Wouldn't having casual staff to open the store be more profitable than just not opening? I know family usually own and run these types of restaurants but they had no one??? It just seems odd to me. Moo


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[wallaby]

I just managed to watch news clips of court case. Kind of a side note but OMG is Elum still judge in Massillon?! Flashback city. He was elected in the 90s when I was in high school! (All the elderly people I knew were scandalised because of the Elum "family history".) I didn't have anything to do with the legal system so no opinions on him one way or the othe, just surprised to see him in clip!

 

[cvaldez1975]

and I think I said he deserves to face justice....

I really don't care how dad feels. He reportedly saw that the girl was dying and even after she stopped breathing he didn't call 911.

 

[dyannaON]

I guess there was a hearing today? I haven't watched yet just saw on my YouTube notifications.
Please delete if not allowed. Thank you.
https://youtu.be/F-74qFZLg3U


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[emigrate]

Well peep this, mom was into Falun Gong and that is why she wanted to come to usa because the govt was after her there for practicing this and that is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong

 

[tlcya]

another link to the hearing this morning.

https://www.facebook.com/Fox8NewsCleveland/videos/10158203930385294/

 

[tlcya]

The sister of Ashley, JLZ age 6(DOB 10/8/10) will remain in the custody of CPS.

Based on parents being charged in the death of Ashley.

Neither is capable of caring for JLZ, as of this time no relative has been found capable of caring for JLZ.

Neither parent wishes to proceed to a hearing for a finding of probable cause re the issue of custody. They both waive that right and stipulate to a finding of probable cause.

 

[tlcya]

CPS requested no contact order between parents and child. Judge approves the no contact order stays the parenting evaluations for now.

 

[JerseyGirl]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mingmin...-family-restaurant-may-face-deportation-cops/

Chen had applied for asylum in the United States in 2009 while claiming she was persecuted by the Chinese government as a follower of Falun Gong, a meditation practice outlawed by China’s government, and federal judges have twice denied her petitions to stay in the U.S.

authorities were trying to sort out whether a deportation order was in place for Chen.

Ashley’s father is a legal citizen.

 

[JerseyGirl]

CPS requested no contact order between parents and child. Judge approves the no contact order stays the parenting evaluations for now.

Here are some articles from today's hearing:

http://fox8.com/2017/01/12/sister-of-murdered-5-year-old-stays-in-custody-of-family-services/
https://www.wkyc.com/news/local/sis...ody-of-stark-county-family-services/385533348

 

[JerseyGirl]

A spokesperson for the New York Law Firm that represented MingMing Chen said that she was ordered to be deported by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals in December 2012, the highest court to which she could have appealed to stay in the United States.

Court records show Chen applied for asylum in early 2009 based on her religion, political opinion, and membership in a "particular social group" explaining she practiced Falun Gong, a Chinese spiritual practice for which she claimed individuals were persecuted by the Chinese government.

An immigration judge determined that Chen was not credible based in part on inconsistencies between her testimony, written submissions, and supporting evidence and ordered her removed to China.

During the appeal in 2012, court records show that Chen claimed after she fled China her brother was arrested for the same practice.

She also claimed to have been detained in an education camp for one month, and that she owed an aunt $20,000 to repay money loaned to pay a person referred to as a "snakehead" who smuggled her into the United States.

Her final appeal for asylum was denied in 2012 and according to the law firm that represented her in the case, Chen was ordered to be deported and was expected to be deported immediately.

Her attorneys said she was notified, but they could not explain why she was still in the United States.

http://fox8.com/2017/01/12/north-canton-mom-charged-with-daughters-murder-ordered-deported-in-2012/

 

[dyannaON]

I really hope the sister is embraced with love and nurturing. This must be so confusing to her. I really pray that she has an abundance of love.


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[georgisdsu]

The citizenship status thing confuses me...if she is married to a citizen doesn't that give her the right to citizenship?

 

[Minette]

Marrying a U.S. Citizen dies not automatically give you citizenship. You must still apply for it, and if you have done everything properly the process should go quicker as long as you meet the requirements. Examples of not doing things properly (not saying any of these apply here): entering the country illegally and marrying a U.S. citizen; overstaying a visa and marrying a U.S. Citizen; marrying a U.S. citizen solely to obtain citizenship, etc. I am married to a now naturalized U.S. citizen and it is not an automatic done deal even if all done legally.

 

[Spellbound]

The citizenship status thing confuses me...if she is married to a citizen doesn't that give her the right to citizenship?

Not immediately, but under normal circumstances it should help move it along. However, the fact that she was supposed to be deported in 2012 may also affect any application for citizenship, I would think. This may be a more complicated case regarding her access to US citizenshiop.


Applying for citizenship in US:
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/citizenship-through-marriage.html#