OH OH - Bertha Marie Tidd Newell, 40, Zanesville, 13 July 1948

[Mysteries1974]

I agree that this is now pointing to the Bertha that is featured in these articles. As well, I think it can be determined that she simply walked away, due to untreated mental illness. The only way we can try and get a resolution is through loads of documents.

Does anyone have a working email address for Dorothy Daughterly?

 

[Hounddog75]

Does anyone have a working email address for Dorothy Daughterly?

I have tried that email, and I got a reply that it was invalid.

 

[Hounddog75]

While the Bertha Haeft info is circumstantial, I did another search for Bertha, and found that she is listed amongst records as both Marie B Tidd and Marie Tidd and married to Ernest Newell (as a previous poster submitted . I am going to keep working these angles, and if we can eliminate Bertha Haeft as Bertha Tidd Newell with hard evidence, then I think we should do so with uploaded documents to this thread etc,.

 

[Hounddog75]

I believe her granddaughter has ruled this out as a match. I know that she was looking into it but it lead to nothing.

Did you get confirmation at all on this? If so, it will help narrow the path in searching for Bertha. Respect to you.

 

[hanpap]

Did you get confirmation at all on this? If so, it will help narrow the path in searching for Bertha. Respect to you.

Not as of right now. Last I heard (which has been a while) a haeft family memeber was in contact with the family.
I know Dorothy has not been in the best of health in the past, but I will reach out again.

 

[Hounddog75]

Not as of right now. Last I heard (which has been a while) a haeft family memeber was in contact with the family.
I know Dorothy has not been in the best of health in the past, but I will reach out again.

Thank you for doing this!

 

[Diane Redfern]

According to Charley Project:
"After Newell's disappearance, numerous rumors circulated about what might have happened to her. She was said to have joined a traveling circus with a man named Dick Tidd, been murdered by her husband, or admitted to a nursing home in Woodsfield, Ohio. None of these rumors have been substantiated"
I don't know if Tidd was a common surname, but... could this be a misunderstanding? Was Dick Tidd related to her in any way?
Bertha Marie Tidd Newell – The Charley Project

 

[Richard]

Bertha Marie Tidd Newell
Missing since July 13, 1948 from Zanesville, Ohio.
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics

• • Date Of Birth: September 26, 1907
  • Age at Time of Disappearance: 40 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'8 - 5'10, 125 - 145 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Dark brown hair; dark brown eyes.
  • Marks, Scars: Scar on head just behind crown
  • Clothing: She was last seen wearing a brown tweed dress and high heels
  • AKA: Bertha Marie Tidd, Marie Newell; Marie Tidd
  • Medical Conditions: She had some mental health issues before her disappearance and stayed in an Ohio state mental hospital for a brief period.

Circumstances of Disappearance

On July 13, 1948 Newell told her family she was going to the grocery store. She never returned and has never been seen again. She didn't take her purse nor any other personal belongings.
After her disappearance, there were numerous stories circulating; That she ran away to join a traveling circus, that her husband may have murdered her and a possibility she was in a nursing home in Woodfield. None of these were substantiated.

In 1956, there was a report that she had been seen in a town north of Zanesville. After some investigation, the police reached a dead-end. There have been no real leads since and Newell is no longer on file with the Zanesville Police Department.
Newell had given birth to 10 children.

LINK:
The Doe Network: Case File 1119DFOH

 

[Richard]

Missing for 75 Years...

Bertha Marie Tidd Newell, age 40
Missing Since: July 13, 1948
Location Last Seen: Zanesville, Ohio.
LINK:

1119DFOH - Bertha Marie Tidd Newell

 

[spartanx]

There are so many theories about what happened to her... I think they are probable but in my opinion I think only two are plausible... that her husband killed her or that she ran away with that man called Tidd...
whatever the case
may she rest in peace

 

[Brightchaser47]

Bertha Marie Tidd Newell
Missing since July 13, 1948 from Zanesville, Ohio.
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: September 26, 1907
Age at Time of Disappearance: 40 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'8 - 5'10, 125 - 145 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Dark brown hair; dark brown eyes.
Marks, Scars: Scar on head just behind crown
Clothing: She was last seen wearing a brown tweed dress and high heels
AKA: Bertha Marie Tidd, Marie Newell; Marie Tidd
Medical Conditions: She had some mental health issues before her disappearance and stayed in an Ohio state mental hospital for a brief period.

Circumstances of Disappearance

On July 13, 1948 Newell told her family she was going to the grocery store. She never returned and has never been seen again. She didn't take her purse nor any other personal belongings.

After her disappearance, there were numerous stories circulating; That she ran away to join a travelling circus, that her husband may have murdered her and a possibility she was in a nursing home in Woodfield. None of these were substantiated.

In 1956, there was a report that she had been seen in a town north of Zanesville. After some investigation, the police reached a dead-end. There has been no real leads since and Newell is no longer on file with the Zanesville Police Department.
Newell had given birth to 10 children.

Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

Dorothy Daugherty

E-Mail: [email protected]

Source:
The Doe Network: Case File 1119DFOH

LINK:

1119DFOH - Bertha Marie Tidd Newell

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Aug 6, 1945 and Aug 12, 1945

There is quite a bit about the newells in the zanesville time-signal

Doe Network has her missing at age 40 in 1948, but these news articles list her as 49 in 1945 and 1948. That's a pretty big discrepancy, imo. jmo

 

[HBelusky]

Doe Network has her missing at age 40 in 1948, but these news articles list her as 49 in 1945 and 1948. That's a pretty big discrepancy, imo. jmo

The article written in 1956 which gives her age as 49 would have been her age at the time the article was written, not when she would have gone missing. Bertha's date of birth (September 26, 1907) came from ancestry.com

 

[Brightchaser47]

The hospital Bertha may have stayed at is the Orient\Ohio State. Her daughter, Geveva, was an inpatient there when she died in 1956. She also had a son who was sent there in 1947 but I don't believe his stay was very long.

She was also reported missing in November of 1943 and in may of 1944 before her eventual disappearance in 1948. (she attached)

It sounds like there's a strong possibility the mental illness was inherited.

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Given the treatments for mental illness in that era, possibly Bertha's husband mentioned her needing another hospital stay or another treatment and she'd had enough...

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Aug 6, 1945 and Aug 12, 1945

There is quite a bit about the newells in the zanesville time-signal

Sounds like both Bertha and her son were against being "institutionalized". I wonder whether she was trying to protect her son or just didn't care for the police. We're not told whether he'd broken the law before. If this was his first offense, the law certainly took it seriously. jmo

 

[Brightchaser47]

I would be very surprised if a 40 year old woman, with a body that had borne 10 kids, would be of any interest whatsoever to a white slavery ring, even if they existed. And I'm not convinced of that.

I can believe such a ring existed (it was more prevalent than people think), but I agree, in this case it's unlikely that's what happened. jmo

 

[Brightchaser47]

I do believe at the time of her disappearance it was not taken seriously due to her being reported missing before. She had been in trouble for holding the police at bay with a gun while her son escaped a few years before.

RSBM
I agree. I feel the local LE avoided investigating.

She does resemble the Morgan County Jane doe and did have ties to West Virginia at that time. Its a thought....

Has anyone ever made a connection between her WV roots and the Tidd fellow she allegedly left with? I do believe he may have been a relative.