Found Deceased OH - Cheryl Coker, 46, Riverside, 2 Oct 2018 *husband suspect* #2

[wyome]

I think and it’s my opinion the GF has the answers to fill in the crossword puzzle

I can’t gather much info on her from the other sites, but all I can gather she not well liked

Since she is still part of his life before and after the disappearance , she knows more than she’s letting on, I think she’s directing the show at the house

She's either completely controlled or has a huge set of balls lol. Time will tell

 

[Tillicum]

She's either completely controlled or has a huge set of balls lol. Time will tell

Well now they get to pay the bills and buy the groceries without Cheryl's money. I really wish we knew if this was planned or a moment of rage.

 

[tooltimetim]

I think it was planned , it started before Florida, I think the GF was so hell bound to have a home that she took Cheryl’s, damn the other sites are letting me down, this woman has dark intentions, or she would not be living on Cristy Lane

 

[tooltimetim]

I have been reading US Supreme Court cases , concerning felony murders, and appeals, I stumbled upon some cases that I think could effect the Coker case...

The one US Supreme Court case Sandra K. Hyde vs the City of Columbia, and there is others, how this ties to the Coker the how the media is reporting the “suspect”.

For many years, naming an uncharged suspect, in the press was strictly prohibited in journalism, the suspect should not be named until formal charges are filed, and still they have to use the prefix ALLEGED until the so named suspect is convicted in a court of law....

If you look back in the Coker case , even though the police named William as prime suspect, but the local media printed that verbage without The word alleged being used....

I am very surprised that William is not being afforded his legal rights, in the media, they have this man “ charged, and tried “ in the media which is violating the journalist code as prescribed in court cases and basic decency..

There is a lot more Supreme Court cases pertaining to murder and appeals , to cases where a suspect is prematurely named or rights violated in cases without a body, I will provide more case law after I finish ......

 

[wyome]

I have been reading US Supreme Court cases , concerning felony murders, and appeals, I stumbled upon some cases that I think could effect the Coker case...

The one US Supreme Court case Sandra K. Hyde vs the City of Columbia, and there is others, how this ties to the Coker the how the media is reporting the “suspect”.

For many years, naming an uncharged suspect, in the press was strictly prohibited in journalism, the suspect should not be named until formal charges are filed, and still they have to use the prefix ALLEGED until the so named suspect is convicted in a court of law....

If you look back in the Coker case , even though the police named William as prime suspect, but the local media printed that verbage without The word alleged being used....

I am very surprised that William is not being afforded his legal rights, in the media, they have this man “ charged, and tried “ in the media which is violating the journalist code as prescribed in court cases and basic decency..

There is a lot more Supreme Court cases pertaining to murder and appeals , to cases where a suspect is prematurely named or rights violated in cases without a body, I will provide more case law after I finish ......

I'm no legal expert, but I don't think you can compare journalism and LE in terms of how they proceed to do their jobs. LE has all kinds of liberty in regards to withholding evidence and even lying in interrogations as a tactic to gain information. Journalists, on the other hand, are not given the same; hence the "alleged" title they give to anyone not formally found guilty.

I may be wrong, but weren't there several defendants considered suspects before being formally charged? Scott Peterson, the Ramsays (and in Ramsay's case no one was ever charged).

I've seen the coverage where legal scholars were concerned about labeling William a suspect without an immediate arrest, but I really don't see what the big deal is. Apparently they have a grave amount on him and feel fairly confident. His civil liberties are not being violated -- he has not lost his home, his freedom, nor his work. They says he's a "suspect", which by definition in and of itself doesn't really say anything else.

The only thing I see wrong with LE's declaration without an arrest is that they will sooner or later need to put up or shut up. They played their hand and it's full on William. If an arrest doesn't come down within the next 8 weeks, I will be assuming LE was bluffing from the beginning and will be looking at things differently.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

25 minutes from Riverside.

OH - OH- Remains found in Glen Helen Nature Preserve prompt death investigation- 12 April 2019

 

[Tillicum]

I keep checking but they still haven't identified the remains found in Glen Helen. It seems likely that it's the young man missing but we can't rule out that it's Cheryl yet IMO.

Yellow Springs PD investigating after body found at Glen Helen Nature Preserve

ABC 22/FOX 45 reached out to the Greene County Coroner on Monday, but was told that they haven't positively identified the remains yet.

 

[tooltimetim]

As per the Scott Peterson case he was labelled prime suspect when his wife Lacy, he body washed up, he was arrested three days later

We are all presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, and reading these files of cases what the police did to William is wrong, then the media ran with it, her family and friends are running with it,

Until he’s arrested, tried and convicted the word alleged should be inserted, would any of us like to be tried in the court of public opinion, what if he is innocent, it’s a crap shoot....

Boy could his lawyer run with this when that day comes

 

[Ann99]

I keep checking but they still haven't identified the remains found in Glen Helen. It seems likely that it's the young man missing but we can't rule out that it's Cheryl yet IMO.

Yellow Springs PD investigating after body found at Glen Helen Nature Preserve

ABC 22/FOX 45 reached out to the Greene County Coroner on Monday, but was told that they haven't positively identified the remains yet.

Still unclear, not fact based, and not stated directly, but here is an article that seems to indicate the remains are those of the young man.

Missing Yellow Springs man, Lonya Clark, confirmed dead

 

[Tillicum]

Still unclear, not fact based, and not stated directly, but here is an article that seems to indicate the remains are those of the young man.

Missing Yellow Springs man, Lonya Clark, confirmed dead

YELLOW SPRINGS — UPDATE @ 9 a.m.:

The body recovered Friday from the Glen Helen Nature Preserve in Greene County was the body of Leonid “Lonya” Clark, according to the Greene County Sheriff’s Office.

Clark’s body was discovered in a wooded area near Grinnell Road around 3:30 p.m. Friday.

 

[Tillicum]

As per the Scott Peterson case he was labelled prime suspect when his wife Lacy, he body washed up, he was arrested three days later

We are all presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, and reading these files of cases what the police did to William is wrong, then the media ran with it, her family and friends are running with it,

Until he’s arrested, tried and convicted the word alleged should be inserted, would any of us like to be tried in the court of public opinion, what if he is innocent, it’s a crap shoot....

Boy could his lawyer run with this when that day comes

BBM No I would not want to be tried in the court of public opinion but in pretty much all cases someone is, even if LE and the media give no indication who the suspect is. That's what's great about Websleuths. Until LE or MSM confirm and name a suspect, we can not blame them or badmouth them here. Sometimes it's really hard when their guilt is obvious but we have to sit on our hands and keep it to ourselves if we don't want a time out. Tim you should check out some of the other cases here.

And BTW the media has given Bill every opportunity to speak out in his defense. I'm sure they would love to do a sit down interview with him. If Bill is innocent, why hasn't he hired a lawyer to defend him through the media, against this allegation - if it isn't true? If it were me and I was innocent, I would be out there on every news station defending myself and begging LE to find the true killer. Even if I couldn't afford a lawyer. But Bill's too busy playing house with his girlfriend IMO.

 

[Plo_Koon]

As per the Scott Peterson case he was labelled prime suspect when his wife Lacy, he body washed up, he was arrested three days later

We are all presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, and reading these files of cases what the police did to William is wrong, then the media ran with it, her family and friends are running with it,

Until he’s arrested, tried and convicted the word alleged should be inserted, would any of us like to be tried in the court of public opinion, what if he is innocent, it’s a crap shoot....

Boy could his lawyer run with this when that day comes

You have a problem with like every aspect of this investigation, and a lot of what you say is conflicting with other things you said.

So now you're worried about not using the word "alleged" and how the police have "wronged" and mistreated Bill. A page or few ago, you were talking about how police should go search every piece of property associated with Bill or anyone he knows, and that they should go talk to everyone. What do you want? You can't have it both ways.

 

[Ann99]

YELLOW SPRINGS — UPDATE @ 9 a.m.:

The body recovered Friday from the Glen Helen Nature Preserve in Greene County was the body of Leonid “Lonya” Clark, according to the Greene County Sheriff’s Office.

Clark’s body was discovered in a wooded area near Grinnell Road around 3:30 p.m. Friday.

R.I.P Lonya
Sad that it took so long to find him when the general area of Yellow Springs and the Preserves were always the focus of searches since January

My thought and opinion (even though this young man is not related to this specific thread) -
- there are many rivers, parks, preserves, vast unpopulated areas of farmland/woodland in the immediate vicinity where a body can remain undetected, even if searchers are very close by

Sad and frustrating, it could be a long time before CC is found

 

[tooltimetim]

In response to post #372, yes I can have both ways, if the police are awarding him prime suspect , then put their money where their mouth is and prove why he is prime, a grainy black hoodie sweatshirt video doesn’t impress me, my opinion he’s had help with the coverup of this crime, and yes his GF and friends who are very close with him need their trees shook for any potential evidence, and I don’t want to hear that they are awaiting for the right evidence, and Santa Claus will return in December....unless Cheryl is found dead or alive and awaiting for that magic event to occur they shouldn’t have announced to the world he’s prime suspect, that is wrong.

Would you or me want to be identified as a prime suspect, and carry that label for God only knows how long, everybody in these posts are saying that LE is following the law and their hands are tied, well releasing info to the media and public to have him tormented in the public eye is wrong,and yes the word alleged should be used now..

Our justice system is supposed to be one tiered, and we are innocent until proven guilty, but lately this country seems to have a multi tier justice system ..

How many people have Been falsely accused of a crime and gone to prison for no reason but to appease the public’s mob mentality.

So you or anybody else are not going to think my opinions are wrong , are yours correct? pull your head out of the sand and realize one thing this man could actually be innocent

If this suspect was as guilty as they think he would be in custody already.

I am not saying I like or agree with this mans conduct, or life choices, I just don’t want basic law standards slowly being eroded away, in regards of innocence or guilt

Basically they should put up or shut up.....

 

[tooltimetim]

I see the police are are saying the body found at the Glen Helen preserves, is now officially a Homicide Case, May god take this young man home........

 

[Plo_Koon]

In response to post #372, yes I can have both ways, if the police are awarding him prime suspect , then put their money where their mouth is and prove why he is prime, a grainy black hoodie sweatshirt video doesn’t impress me, my opinion he’s had help with the coverup of this crime, and yes his GF and friends who are very close with him need their trees shook for any potential evidence, and I don’t want to hear that they are awaiting for the right evidence, and Santa Claus will return in December....unless Cheryl is found dead or alive and awaiting for that magic event to occur they shouldn’t have announced to the world he’s prime suspect, that is wrong.

Would you or me want to be identified as a prime suspect, and carry that label for God only knows how long, everybody in these posts are saying that LE is following the law and their hands are tied, well releasing info to the media and public to have him tormented in the public eye is wrong,and yes the word alleged should be used now..

Our justice system is supposed to be one tiered, and we are innocent until proven guilty, but lately this country seems to have a multi tier justice system ..

How many people have Been falsely accused of a crime and gone to prison for no reason but to appease the public’s mob mentality.

So you or anybody else are not going to think my opinions are wrong , are yours correct? pull your head out of the sand and realize one thing this man could actually be innocent

If this suspect was as guilty as they think he would be in custody already.

I am not saying I like or agree with this mans conduct, or life choices, I just don’t want basic law standards slowly being eroded away, in regards of innocence or guilt

Basically they should put up or shut up.....

But you are on one hand saying that you are concerned with his rights being violated, and yet on the other saying you know he did this and that all his friends should have their trees shook -- what about his friends? Don't they have rights?

Secondly, IF I was considered a prime suspect I don't think I would care so much about public opinion as I would about law enforcement's opinion. Also, had my wife disappeared I'd be less concerned with what the public thinks and more concerned with speaking with law enforcement and providing as much help as possible to first and foremost find my significant other, and secondly to assist them in clearing me.

You know what clears this up? Bill cooperates fully with law enforcement. Then guess what happens? If he's truly innocent, then they will go to the media and state he has been CLEARED. That's a real simple way to resolve the issue.

 

[tooltimetim]

I appreciate the sarcasm , yes you would care how the public sees you, in Williams case labeling him the suspect, he gets harassed at work, I read eggs were thrown at the house, they follow and harass him, so you tell me that you would not care if you were tried and convicted in public.

They should have left his status at POI, at the rate LE is working this case is as cold as my ice cube tray.

And as per his close friends , yes they should have been examined very closely and search warrants issued as needed

Whoever did this crime may have done it themselves but had friends assist with the coverup, so if they expect to solve this case this century they need to shake the trees..

 

[Tillicum]

The terms POI and suspect are interchangeable.

 

[Plo_Koon]

I appreciate the sarcasm , yes you would care how the public sees you, in Williams case labeling him the suspect, he gets harassed at work, I read eggs were thrown at the house, they follow and harass him, so you tell me that you would not care if you were tried and convicted in public.

They should have left his status at POI, at the rate LE is working this case is as cold as my ice cube tray.

And as per his close friends , yes they should have been examined very closely and search warrants issued as needed

Whoever did this crime may have done it themselves but had friends assist with the coverup, so if they expect to solve this case this century they need to shake the trees..

Nowhere was I being sarcastic. I will re-state, I don't now, nor would I ever, care how the public viewed me if my spouse disappeared and I was a prime suspect. Awww, does the murderer get harassed at work? What a bummer. It's all a moot point, do you know why? Because any rational person who is accused of murdering their spouse would cooperate fully and completely with local law enforcement to find out what happened. They wouldn't refuse to assist, and they wouldn't use their mouthpiece/girlfriend to make such wild claims. He shows ZERO concern for his missing and presumably murdered spouse so I show ZERO sympathy for his house being hit with eggs or him being bothered. I already said that there's an easy way to clear it up -- work with the police. If he's truly innocent, then they would clear him and maybe he could get some relief.

Trust me, you'll know when I'm being sarcastic.

 

[wyome]

The terms POI and suspect are interchangeable.

I don't think they are. I found this interchange both informative and entertaining.

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