Found Deceased OH - Cheryl Coker, 46, Riverside, 2 Oct 2018 *husband suspect* #2

[mks762]

Does anyone know if the police have been monitoring (listening) into Williams cell phone calls, I was just curious of who he called and spoke with when he abandoned the SUV and once he got home......

RSBM
I'm happy to see that this thread is still rolling along despite the lack of anything new from LE. I don't have much to add, I've been quietly reading along with everything yall are posting. I did want to say though, I have a feeling police are keeping a VERY close eye on William. They must have some sort of evidence to name him a POI which I think would also be enough evidence to secure a warrant to monitor his calls.
LE is just waiting for a slip up and it will happen eventually IMO

 

[tooltimetim]

I am surprised William being labelled as prime suspect in her disappearance/ presumption of murder, that LE is allowing him to travel to Florida this month, I always thought that once you were identified with “suspect” your kinda of restricted in a circle of travel, for fear of flight....

I also shop at the small Kroger store, where Cheryl’s SUV was found, and I know the people, and a few of them are very interested in this case, which pleases me, to me interest could lead to evidence....
Some are very vocal about this Florida trip, saying that the family should cancel the reservations, because Cheryl made them for HER family vacation, not his.....
Some even want to call the condo rental place in a Florida and inform them that a suspect in a murder case will be staying there, ( their way of protecting Cheryl), to get them to cancel the booking.....

You can sit back and see the passion and love her friends have and they miss her, so I really cannot blame them for what they want to do.....

As per this so called “vacation” it’s just another way for William to earn more “daddy” points with the minor child with the GF at his side, ..
Great mental visual........

I certainly hope the police pull the rug out from underneath him before the 20 th of this month, and ruin his so called vacation....

 

[wyome]

I didn't follow this case as it occured; just attempted to get caught up recently, but something to perhaps keep in mind in regards of LE not checking the house immediately is did they ask and Bill did not allow a search? If that were the case (homeowner not allowing LE to search the home) then a search warrant would then be necessary. Who decides/signs off on a search warrant; not Police or investigators.

I'm guessing the waters were muddied by the impending divorce, the open marriage; each seeing different people etc. If it's not clear that the person isn't voluntarily missing, a warrant is probably much harder to obtain. Perhaps LE's hands were tied there.

The household wasn't exactly "cookie cutter" at the time. (Knowingly and voluntarily by all parties) I think that made being able to separate "normal behavior" from abnormal more difficult, which in turn made disproving "off the grid voluntarily" a bit more difficult in terms of warrants, moving the investigation forward etc.

I hope this doesn't come off as my sounding critical of the victim, as that is definitely NOT my intention. Bill is clearly a suspect for a reason. Even if we remove everything that is known about the case, about him, the video evidence etc, just the fact that he isn't shouting from the rooftop for answers of what happened to Cheryl is telling, IMO. Even if the marriage was ending, he has a daughter (plus her older daughter) to think about and want answers for. Humans are curious creatures and nosey by nature. He would want to know the who the why and the how that left him as a single parent with no clear answers if he were an innocent uninvolved party. The lack of curiosity is what tells me he's not innocent or uninvolved. I'm just growing tired of criticism of the police department. Their hands are tied it seems (or that at least has to be considered) Cheryl's body hasn't even been found, that's a huge roadblock in moving forward.

JMHO.

I don't believe William refused the home to be searched in the early days, but have nothing to back that up. I think if he had, they might have moved quicker. LE certainly wasn't swift in this case to label the husband a POI, let alone seal off the possible crime scene. But this is all just speculation on my part.

I agree that the multiple people in this married couple's life slowed down an investigation because of the extra moving parts so to speak.

I also sadly agree that LE's hands are tied and without a body, they probably won't proceed.

 

[MissMalowe]

I kind of felt the trip to Florida last year was a far more ballsy move; he went to Florida with the girlfriend INSTEAD of Cheryl.

This year there's no Cheryl
So, there's no alternative; the GF wins by default. Last year though, he chose. One of many of his brazen choices....

 

[wyome]

RSBM
I'm happy to see that this thread is still rolling along despite the lack of anything new from LE. I don't have much to add, I've been quietly reading along with everything yall are posting. I did want to say though, I have a feeling police are keeping a VERY close eye on William. They must have some sort of evidence to name him a POI which I think would also be enough evidence to secure a warrant to monitor his calls.
LE is just waiting for a slip up and it will happen eventually IMO

Just wanted to say thank you for quietly reading along, and thanks for your voice, too! It's a lot of bravo to announce him as suspect they way they did without an arrest that week at least, let alone letting months tick past. Here's to LE keeping a VERY close eye and ear on that entire household.

 

[tb24oh]

Tim, you have mentioned the three "missing" before from Riverside. Yet there is not one single bit of info about any of them on Google. That tells me they aren't really missing persons. They were likely runaways who were quickly found and no media generated about them at all.

I thought this group didn't allow sleuthing of family members who haven't been named POI/suspect??

The people who want to contact the resort and cancel the reservation or tell them about this case are NUTS. As much as everyone believes Bill to be guilty, he has never been arrested, charged, or convicted of this or any other crime. He owns the timeshare just as much as Cheryl and has every right to go on a vacation. Would I rather he be in jail? Absolutely. But until he is, people need to keep the line intact between speculation online and real world harassment.

 

[wary]

I am surprised William being labelled as prime suspect in her disappearance/ presumption of murder, that LE is allowing him to travel to Florida this month, I always thought that once you were identified with “suspect” your kinda of restricted in a circle of travel, for fear of flight....

I also shop at the small Kroger store, where Cheryl’s SUV was found, and I know the people, and a few of them are very interested in this case, which pleases me, to me interest could lead to evidence....
Some are very vocal about this Florida trip, saying that the family should cancel the reservations, because Cheryl made them for HER family vacation, not his.....
Some even want to call the condo rental place in a Florida and inform them that a suspect in a murder case will be staying there, ( their way of protecting Cheryl), to get them to cancel the booking.....

You can sit back and see the passion and love her friends have and they miss her, so I really cannot blame them for what they want to do.....

As per this so called “vacation” it’s just another way for William to earn more “daddy” points with the minor child with the GF at his side, ..
Great mental visual........

I certainly hope the police pull the rug out from underneath him before the 20 th of this month, and ruin his so called vacation....

How could they keep him from traveling to Florida, unless they arrested him? And if they arrest him, they must either let him go, or move forward toward a trial for which they obviously feel there is not enough evidence.

 

[wyome]

I kind of felt the trip to Florida last year was a far more ballsy move; he went to Florida with the girlfriend INSTEAD of Cheryl.

This year there's no Cheryl
So, there's no alternative; the GF wins by default. Last year though, he chose. One of many of his brazen choices....

That is a really good point. The reason I see this upcoming trip being a bit more disturbing is because the 2018 trip was probably William giving Cheryl the middle finger since he was clearly pissed she filed divorce (nail in coffin text). GF told LE in interview that Cheryl blindsided him with this divorce and that her act of filing changed her attitude towards both of them (GF stated they all were "friends" before). Plus, she was still alive at that point, so William probably thought, she wants the divorce and refused to go, so I'll take my GF, why not, screw it. Not saying it's the adult way to behave, particularly bringing a minor along...clearly in bad taste, but not in my opinion surprising.

Of course we don't know whether William and the GF's statements are truthful, either.

I think this upcoming trip is pretty insensitive based on the fact that LE has openly declared that they believe Cheryl's a victim of homicide, and of course she hasn't been seen 9 months. Not a lot of time has passed to be vacationing in the condo your wife booked with the GF that slandered her in LE interviews.

But it's his right to go; LE's not charged him or them with a thing. Maybe he feels like LE's getting close and this will be his last hoorah? Or maybe he's just playing the part of a dumped husband whose wife ran off on him -- again, why not vacation?

This is just such a sad and strange case.

 

[tooltimetim]

Wyome, I totally agree with your post, I come from the Western NewYork area, and there if your a labelled a suspect in a serious crime, your not allowed to leave the jurisdiction or county for which the crime occurred, if you do your charged as fleeing to flight....

To me for LE to LABEL him as PRIME suspect in a missing persons/ murder case , then seem not to care if he leaves the state , seems to me to take the seriousness out of the case, I don’t want to hear nonsense that there’s not enough evidence , it’s almost like the boy who cried wolf too many times nobody listens....

I’m sorry but since he has this designator as suspect his movements should be restricted until adjudicated...

What if gets to Florida and skips out and disappears, and all this is going to do is make good olde dad a bigger hero in the eyes of the minor daughter, and make her moms memory just that ,mom who???

I guess I agree with the friends , the reservations made by Cheryl should be cancelled....he deserves a vacation like I need a hole in my head,

Vacations are for hard working people not suspects in their wife’s murder..

 

[wyome]

Wyome, I totally agree with your post, I come from the Western NewYork area, and there if your a labelled a suspect in a serious crime, your not allowed to leave the jurisdiction or county for which the crime occurred, if you do your charged as fleeing to flight....

To me for LE to LABEL him as PRIME suspect in a missing persons/ murder case , then seem not to care if he leaves the state , seems to me to take the seriousness out of the case, I don’t want to hear nonsense that there’s not enough evidence , it’s almost like the boy who cried wolf too many times nobody listens....

I’m sorry but since he has this designator as suspect his movements should be restricted until adjudicated...

What if gets to Florida and skips out and disappears, and all this is going to do is make good olde dad a bigger hero in the eyes of the minor daughter, and make her moms memory just that ,mom who???

I guess I agree with the friends , the reservations made by Cheryl should be cancelled....he deserves a vacation like I need a hole in my head,

Vacations are for hard working people not suspects in their wife’s murder..

I think you must have misunderstood my post. I believe he has the right to go where ever he wants because he has not been charged of a crime.

I actually work at an Orlando theme park, and hope that I see him. I would never say anything to him about the case, but would love the opportunity to observe him, his company, their synergy, etc.

If he's guilty, I understand and share the frustration, believe me. But we live in America thank God. And here we have freedoms and LE can't take those away unless they're willing to charge. They are clearly NOT.

Do I find it gross what Bill and GF are doing...YES. But they are innocent beings until proven guilty. Being free to go on vacation outings with family/friends is completely legal, all taste aside.

And don't worry about him disappearing in Florida. We're pretty bad here.

 

[wary]

Wyome, I totally agree with your post, I come from the Western NewYork area, and there if your a labelled a suspect in a serious crime, your not allowed to leave the jurisdiction or county for which the crime occurred, if you do your charged as fleeing to flight....

To me for LE to LABEL him as PRIME suspect in a missing persons/ murder case , then seem not to care if he leaves the state , seems to me to take the seriousness out of the case, I don’t want to hear nonsense that there’s not enough evidence , it’s almost like the boy who cried wolf too many times nobody listens....

I’m sorry but since he has this designator as suspect his movements should be restricted until adjudicated...

What if gets to Florida and skips out and disappears, and all this is going to do is make good olde dad a bigger hero in the eyes of the minor daughter, and make her moms memory just that ,mom who???

I guess I agree with the friends , the reservations made by Cheryl should be cancelled....he deserves a vacation like I need a hole in my head,

Vacations are for hard working people not suspects in their wife’s murder..

It’s not flight if you plan a vacation, let everyone know that you’re going on a vacation, and then go on a vacation, at a time when you have no particular reason to think that the police mean to arrest you any time soon.

Now, whether he deserves a vacation is another story. Personally, I think the only kind he deserves is a long stay in what’s referred to as the graybar hotel.

But, I bet that even in Western New York his actions, as described here, don’t come anywhere near the definition of flight.

MOO

 

[Steelslady]

The problem is- there is no body.

The second problem- while BC was named a suspect, there's no evidence he did this or any harm to Cheryl before she went missing.

For all we know, he could be covering for someone else- taking the heat, because he knows he's not guilty and won't be prosecuted. I wonder if they made him a suspect to try to get him to talk and possibly out someone. He could be protecting someone, perhaps he did help that person bury her somewhere far away.

If he didn't do it, then I feel he knows full well who did.

There's a lot of excess baggage in their marriage, with many people to look at closely that could have done something to her. Someone could have been angry because Cheryl no longer wanted to be in an open marriage- it would break up the family if she went through with the divorce.

I truly think there's a lot that we don't know (and probably shouldn't, of course- it's private) that contributed to this.

For now, I am sitting on the fence as to whether or not he actually killed her.

There's a lot of odd things going on amongst the people close to Cheryl. No signs in their front yard to bring her home, no searches done by them, no pleading to the media. Only one family member elsewhere speaking out- just one, and Cheryl's Mom is devastated beyond words. What a cruel thing, parking Cheryl's car where her mother could see it. Someone did this to be spiteful.

 

[tooltimetim]

I did hear today, Lamar the company who does the big billboards around town is putting Cheryl’s billboard back up, it’s a start to get her face back out there...

I had a morning coffee with a old friend , a retired police officer, ( old cops are like old soldiers like me, we put are heart and soul into our careers, and it’s extremely difficult to step aside and say your retired, if they could let me put the uniform back on , I would do in a heartbeat, just like my friend )

We discussed this case, he is somewhat up to speed, and the biggest day we discussed was the day she went missing,.......

He had stated that the manner Cheryl’s SUV was found in the Kroger parking lot with her cell phone, ID , etc ... in the vehicle threw up big red flags....

He stated if this occurred he would have done some things different,like the following:

With her belongings found in her car, and the manner the car was located, he would have interviewed William, the oldest daughter, and Got a search warrant for Cheryls home, there cell phones, and other vehicles...
Second once the police found out about the so called “open marriage” , stories, and identified the other players, they would have been interviewed and homes searched if the need required, all would have been decided on their overall cooperation....
Would have visited hers and his employers, verified security cameras at the school, the store and the travel routes..
They won’t have waited 10 days to search the home....
He thinks if this case would have have been saturated from the first hour , crucial evidence would have been found, and just maybe solved by now....
So yes I do believe crucial mistakes were made in the beginning, and how this open marriage stuff was handled was a bad judgement call....

And yes the state he served in , the prime suspect would not be allowed to leave the jurisdiction, as long as he is a suspect in a murder case...

Remember he’s not a suspect in a robbery, theft, he is suspected of taking someone’s life, so taking a Florida vacation would be out of the picture,
So sad, too bad , he was the one who obtained that label....

 

[mks762]

I wonder what made them decide to put the billboards back up?? Why now? It's not some "big anniversary" like 6 months or 1 year since she's been missing. No breaks in the case that we've heard. Does LE influence decisions like that? Suggest to them now would be a good time to put the billboards back up because of something they've learned???

 

[GraceG]

I am surprised William being labelled as prime suspect in her disappearance/ presumption of murder, that LE is allowing him to travel to Florida this month, I always thought that once you were identified with “suspect” your kinda of restricted in a circle of travel, for fear of flight....

I also shop at the small Kroger store, where Cheryl’s SUV was found, and I know the people, and a few of them are very interested in this case, which pleases me, to me interest could lead to evidence....
Some are very vocal about this Florida trip, saying that the family should cancel the reservations, because Cheryl made them for HER family vacation, not his.....
Some even want to call the condo rental place in a Florida and inform them that a suspect in a murder case will be staying there, ( their way of protecting Cheryl), to get them to cancel the booking.....

You can sit back and see the passion and love her friends have and they miss her, so I really cannot blame them for what they want to do.....

As per this so called “vacation” it’s just another way for William to earn more “daddy” points with the minor child with the GF at his side, ..
Great mental visual........

I certainly hope the police pull the rug out from underneath him before the 20 th of this month, and ruin his so called vacation....

In law enforcement jargon, a suspect is a known person accused or suspected of committing a crime. Police and reporters in the United States often use the word suspect as a jargon when referring to the perpetrator of the offense.

The difference is the suspect is not KNOWN by evidence to have committed the crime while the perp is the one who did. Because there is no evidence tying them to the crime they are free to travel if only named as a suspect. Unless and until criminal charges have been filed against someone they are free to travel about as they please.

Under the judicial systems of the U.S., once a decision is approved to arrest a suspect, or bind him over for trial, the suspect can then be properly called a defendant, or the accused. Only after being convicted is the suspect properly called the perpetrator.

 

[tooltimetim]

Thanks for clarifying, ......

I am hoping ( but I won’t hold my breath) , that the police would arrest him the day before of their vacation.....I would love to see that.......

I reside in Riverside and close to Cheryl’s home, and being a small city and I mean small ( the city of Riverside is 9 square miles ) , that the scuddlebut is heard , from the postoffice to Kroger, and some local fast food restaurants, and yes there have been friends of Cheryl calling this Florida vacation spot to inform them of his status, quite ballsy , but they are seeing the hurt in Cheryl’s sisters face and tone, and Cheryl’s mom....

 

[tooltimetim]

I have a hypothetical question, or scenario,.......

Let’s say William, (labelled as prime suspect in his wife’s missing persons / murder case) , took the Florida vacation from 20-27 July, and for discussion purposes , Cheryl’s body is locatedwhile there in Florida, does Riverside PD call the Florida State Police and have him arrested and taken into custody...

Then what if the “suspect” lawyers up and fights extradition back to Ohio......because I feel after reading up everything I can find about this knucklehead, that the day he is arrested , he won’t go quietly, and make an Academy Award Performance out of it.....

What do you guys think??

 

[wary]

I have a hypothetical question, or scenario,.......

Let’s say William, (labelled as prime suspect in his wife’s missing persons / murder case) , took the Florida vacation from 20-27 July, and for discussion purposes , Cheryl’s body is locatedwhile there in Florida, does Riverside PD call the Florida State Police and have him arrested and taken into custody...

Then what if the “suspect” lawyers up and fights extradition back to Ohio......because I feel after reading up everything I can find about this knucklehead, that the day he is arrested , he won’t go quietly, and make an Academy Award Performance out of it.....

What do you guys think??

In this type of a situation, I think that the only reasons to fight extradition would be to delay court proceedings a little, or if he was really enjoying the Florida jail and thought that an Ohio jail wouldn’t measure up.

In a case of murder, there’s no chance that he wouldn’t get extradited back to Ohio if Ohio wants to charge him.

MOO

 

[tooltimetim]

Another hypothetical, ...

Let’s say Williams trip to Florida last year just before Cheryl went missing , he met someone down there, who handles dirty little jobs,
And he was paid to get rid of Williams “problem” named Cheryl,
I know it sounds like a crappy Hollywood movie, but would if he paid someone to come to Riverside, clean up Williams dirty work, takes Cheryl’s body to a Florida and disposes her in the Everglades..

I know it seems far fetched, but William just seems too relaxed , not a care in the world, because he knows she will be never found...

Maybe he would meet up with the dirty little job man for another money payment , or see where she was disposed of....

There has to be a reason why she hasn’t been found, why he’s so relaxed, confident, and the police case is stalemated......

Just a thought............to ponder.......

 

[wyome]

I have a hypothetical question, or scenario,.......

Let’s say William, (labelled as prime suspect in his wife’s missing persons / murder case) , took the Florida vacation from 20-27 July, and for discussion purposes , Cheryl’s body is locatedwhile there in Florida, does Riverside PD call the Florida State Police and have him arrested and taken into custody...

Then what if the “suspect” lawyers up and fights extradition back to Ohio......because I feel after reading up everything I can find about this knucklehead, that the day he is arrested , he won’t go quietly, and make an Academy Award Performance out of it.....

What do you guys think??

If her body was found, I doubt they'd arrest him right away because there would be weeks of autopsy and forensic testing against what they've collected from the home.

Even if a body was found while Bill was in Florida, it would take expedited testing to determine if it was even her...meaning multiple days at least.

So, no matter what happens, I think they'll get their full week in Florida.