Found Deceased OH - Cheryl Coker, 46, Riverside, 2 Oct 2018 *husband suspect* #2

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  • #581
I did hear today, Lamar the company who does the big billboards around town is putting Cheryl’s billboard back up, it’s a start to get her face back out there...

I had a morning coffee with a old friend , a retired police officer, ( old cops are like old soldiers like me, we put are heart and soul into our careers, and it’s extremely difficult to step aside and say your retired, if they could let me put the uniform back on , I would do in a heartbeat, just like my friend )

We discussed this case, he is somewhat up to speed, and the biggest day we discussed was the day she went missing,.......

He had stated that the manner Cheryl’s SUV was found in the Kroger parking lot with her cell phone, ID , etc ... in the vehicle threw up big red flags....

He stated if this occurred he would have done some things different,like the following:

With her belongings found in her car, and the manner the car was located, he would have interviewed William, the oldest daughter, and Got a search warrant for Cheryls home, there cell phones, and other vehicles...
Second once the police found out about the so called “open marriage” , stories, and identified the other players, they would have been interviewed and homes searched if the need required, all would have been decided on their overall cooperation....
Would have visited hers and his employers, verified security cameras at the school, the store and the travel routes..
They won’t have waited 10 days to search the home....
He thinks if this case would have have been saturated from the first hour , crucial evidence would have been found, and just maybe solved by now....
So yes I do believe crucial mistakes were made in the beginning, and how this open marriage stuff was handled was a bad judgement call....

And yes the state he served in , the prime suspect would not be allowed to leave the jurisdiction, as long as he is a suspect in a murder case...

Remember he’s not a suspect in a robbery, theft, he is suspected of taking someone’s life, so taking a Florida vacation would be out of the picture,
So sad, too bad , he was the one who obtained that label....
A few things.

First, and most important is the timeline of events as they happened as opposed to what law enforcement would only learn later due to what was collected via search warrants.
  1. Cheryl was not reported missing until just after midnight on Wednesday, October 3rd.
  2. Her car was not located until approximately 8 pm on Wednesday, October 3rd.
  3. Video footage from the businesses where her vehicle was parked was not obtained until Thursday, October 4th.
  4. The search of the residence was on Tuesday, October 9th - less than a week later, not 10 days later.
If you read the very first news stories, it is not clear at all that at the time Cheryl was reported missing (by her sister and her oldest daughter) that law enforcement was made aware of the fact that a divorce was in progress and William had been recently served. It certainly was known here on WS. But even if they did know it is not uncommon for either party to decide to just go somewhere else. It would be much, much, more likely than a situation of foul play. They have to operate (as do we) with the understanding that more than 2000 people are reported missing every day with the vast majority of them resolving themselves in short order.

At the time she was reported missing there was no probable cause whatsoever that a crime had occurred or even an indication that one likely occurred. Even the fact that it was someone other than William that reported her missing wouldn't be something that would raise the alarm either since there was a divorce underway. There should be no expectation that the other spouse would give a flying fig where the other one was.

More so, the fact that Cheryl's car was located by her eldest daughter rather than by police - despite the fact it would be a vehicle that would stand out just sitting in a parking lot of closed businesses over night - means that law enforcement was not as concerned and thus not running an all-hands-on-deck investigation because there was zero indication that any crime had been committed. Even finding the things they did in her car isn't enough, in and of itself, to rise to the level of a crime must have been committed. She still could have met up with someone and went wherever she did of her own free will. But it would raise the level of concern that law enforcement would have. Suicide, where many important belongings are left in a vehicle is not uncommon at all. We see that enough around here.

It would not be until the next day when law enforcement viewed the video that was available that they would be able to build the beginnings of probable cause that something else was afoot. It is unknown when additional video showing the person dressed in black closer to the home was was located and reviewed but it seems very likely that it did not happen quickly. But as early as Thursday, October 4th law enforcement would have something to work with. They had her cell phone, though they would need to obtain a warrant to examine the contents. The video would be enough for that.

That it was apparent that things of value were still located in the car would give them reason to suspect that something other than robbery was afoot. Yet, it seems that the video was not sufficient to identify a suspect clearly and at that point. However, they would have started with William. The review of Cheryl's cell phone contents would have revealed quite a lot of what was going on with Cheryl and William and their relationship with each other and with others.

By Friday the 5th, I suspect that law enforcement began by interviewing the people that were connected to the relationships, in an effort to build more probable cause and obtain information that could be used to challenge an alibi, corroborate statements, etc. All of this takes time. Talking to employers, family, friends, co-workers and attempting to tighten the timeline and locations of various individuals all takes time. In addition to the fact that it would not be possible at that time to rule out that it could be a complete stranger that was responsible for what had transpired.

Even when the warrant was obtained for the home the allegation was of a crime committed was not homicide but kidnapping instead. There are zero legal requirements to prove any alleged facts to a judge when applying for a search warrant. You simply list your facts and the judge approves or not. So, clearly, at that time law enforcement was not able to establish facts that Cheryl was likely deceased.

Obtaining warrants to search the homes of other people would not have happened simply because Cheryl and William had been in relationships with them and certainly not two or three days into this. Law enforcement would certainly have interviewed them. They would certainly ask to obtain the contents of their phones. At some point, after the search of the home (no indication of how long), they would likely be able to build probable cause to obtain phone records and the contents of their phones.

The media has identified the man that Cheryl had been involved with, including where they met. This is not a mystery. Though the media has not named William's girlfriend, her existence has been reported numerous times. Again, no mystery. But only a few days into this, the presence of third parties involved in the marriage complicates things for law enforcement. Do either of these third parties have significant others? Exes? Friends in low places? Criminal histories?

It increases the number of people that could conceivably be responsible for whatever happened with Cheryl. All of them have to be run out and cleared. If not, any defense attorney can trot out alternative suspects and theories to cast reasonable doubt. It only takes one juror to be convinced of even the slightest reasonable doubt and you end up with no conviction. It isn't cheap to put on a murder trial. It is even worse if more than one juror thinks there is reasonable doubt. That increases the likelihood that a conviction will never be obtained.

For whatever reasons, prosecutors are pretty certain that actually charging William and taking this to trial will likely end in a mistrial or they would have charged him and we would already had the legal process moving forward. The biggest reason has to be the lack of a body but even recovering her body may not be enough. It is entirely possible that when Cheryl is recovered that not only will a cause of death not be able to be determined but even the manner of death would not be able to be determined. That would be the worst case scenario.

This is the kind of process that occurs. Law enforcement doesn't jump immediately to a criminal investigation when they receive a missing persons report. They can't get a judge to just approve warrants to do all kinds of intrusive searches based on nothing. Using hindsight, based entirely on information learned only through the process of obtaining evidence via warrants, to insist that law enforcement should have done this or that sooner is meaningless. Had all of the information that you use in your application of hindsight was available to law enforcement at the time Cheryl went missing then the warrants would have happened sooner. But it wasn't available and almost all of it came about due to the results of the warrants they did obtain, with pieces of information learned from one warrant being sufficient for probable cause to obtain the next one and so on.

Your law enforcement friend would have been able to accomplish exactly zero of what he said he would do.

As for William going wherever he pleases, whenever he pleases, he is free to do so. Law enforcement can't tell him to do anything or not to do anything. They have zero control over any of that. And no, they can't charge him as a fugitive from justice because he hasn't been charged with anything and therefore is not considered to be fleeing or hindering prosecution or anything. Calling someone a suspect does not give the government any new rights rights and certainly doesn't remove any individual rights.
 
  • #582
The above posting explains a lot about this weird case.....

The posting sorta put everything into perspective , and my feelings are there really isnt anything else for us to examine in this case, in Cheryl’s case our named suspect is about 95% chance he did it, but there’s that 5 % that he did not do it or is covering for someone...

The only thing that really disgusts me with this case is the suspect, his lack of care , respect, or basic human decency , of a woman who he was married for 19 years, had children together.....
He’s acting like a 16 year kid who is excited that a girl is paying attention to him, and he’s getting a bedtime partner......

I just don’t understand how he can get up every morning in the home he shared with Cheryl and not care or get emotional , and then by rubbing salt in the wounds by bringing this so called GF into Cheryl’s home, as Cheryl’s home that was her kitchen, bedroom, etc.. not a live bimbo...

And lastly to take such bimbo on a vacation and spend vacation time and act like nothing has happened, that a human life was taken away before her time, ....

So like my first paragraph , I can’t think of any new questions or inquiries, as I see this case from my end, as game over, final score Cheryl 0, suspect 1....

The sad thing is there is thousands of families across this country who have loved ones missing and presumed dead and they are praying for miracles that will never happen, I don’t foresee Cheryl’s case being solved anytime soon in my lifetime.....very sad country and world we live in, where human life is disposable....

The motto of this case, live a long happy life, and god forbid if your a victim of a serious crime, you become like the military uses M.I.A........
 
  • #583
The above posting explains a lot about this weird case.....

The posting sorta put everything into perspective , and my feelings are there really isnt anything else for us to examine in this case, in Cheryl’s case our named suspect is about 95% chance he did it, but there’s that 5 % that he did not do it or is covering for someone...

The only thing that really disgusts me with this case is the suspect, his lack of care , respect, or basic human decency , of a woman who he was married for 19 years, had children together.....
He’s acting like a 16 year kid who is excited that a girl is paying attention to him, and he’s getting a bedtime partner......

I just don’t understand how he can get up every morning in the home he shared with Cheryl and not care or get emotional , and then by rubbing salt in the wounds by bringing this so called GF into Cheryl’s home, as Cheryl’s home that was her kitchen, bedroom, etc.. not a live bimbo...

And lastly to take such bimbo on a vacation and spend vacation time and act like nothing has happened, that a human life was taken away before her time, ....

So like my first paragraph , I can’t think of any new questions or inquiries, as I see this case from my end, as game over, final score Cheryl 0, suspect 1....

The sad thing is there is thousands of families across this country who have loved ones missing and presumed dead and they are praying for miracles that will never happen, I don’t foresee Cheryl’s case being solved anytime soon in my lifetime.....very sad country and world we live in, where human life is disposable....

The motto of this case, live a long happy life, and god forbid if your a victim of a serious crime, you become like the military uses M.I.A........

I really appreciate your passion for this case, because it means I'm not alone. I'm not one to be immersed in 15+ cases a year. I get attached to 2 or 3 at best. Cheryl's one of those three precious gems for me that I carry in my thoughts and prayers daily.

I don't understand how he wakes up every day, either and carries on. Maybe he's innocent. Maybe he's just confident. Time will tell.

Keep being bold and you.
 
  • #584
I can find ZERO state laws that prohibit a suspect from traveling based solely on them being under investigation. Only a court order can restrict travel and that is reserved for someone who has been arrested and charged with a crime and is awaiting trial.



I wonder what made them decide to put the billboards back up?? Why now? It's not some "big anniversary" like 6 months or 1 year since she's been missing. No breaks in the case that we've heard. Does LE influence decisions like that? Suggest to them now would be a good time to put the billboards back up because of something they've learned???
The billboard space was donated by Lamar, with the caveat that it would be up as long as there was not a paying customer who wanted the space. It was temporarily taken down when someone selling fireworks purchased the slot for a short term contract of a few weeks prior to the 4th of July. Then Cheryl's billboard was put back in place.
 
  • #585
Wyome, thanks I do have the passion for this case, it’s hard to put it down and be like everyone else, maybe it’s because I am a Riverside Resident, that I live less than a mile from Cheryl’s home, I shop at that Kroger store....
Maybe because I lived through serious crime in my family , not once but twice....and what it does to you...

I was a USAF First Sergeant, and I saw how crimes affected military families, from severe abuse, to murder, to gang warfare, the military wasn’t immune, just handled more quickly, and more harshly, I wish the civilian side would take note..

So I will start over again on this case and review, there is something we are all missing, right now he’s 95% guilty, and 5% someone else???

I lived in a Niagara Falls, just 2 miles from the falls, the amount of crime victims that get tossed over the falls is sickening , thank god he or who did not have the Falls as a disposal place....
 
  • #586
I never realized that someone can be a named suspect in a missing persons case / murder case and win a all expenses paid vacation to Florida, at the expense of the person he is suspected of harming....

What a Crappy country we live in , I bet there’s even a book at Barnes and Noble , A how to , for murder, for dummies,
 
  • #587
I am starting from page one on this case , again, but before that, does anyone know what Cheryl’s attitude was 30 days before her disappearance ? How many “dates” did she have ? Were things going ok at her job ? Were Bill and her at each other’s throats ? Was there any money issues ? When did Bills GF enter the picture ?
 
  • #588
The day Cheryl went missing was William scheduled to work, if so did he go in , or call out as a concerned husband , was the GF hanging around that day?
 
  • #589
I take it by the lack of discussion I get the everyone is getting tired of this missing persons case.....

I know this case is extremely frustrating, and going nowhere, I live in Riverside and there is no talk about it, other than the billboard and a missing persons poster in the Kroger store, no interest.......

I know we have dissected this case from day one and before, but I still feel we’re missing something, I know that to spark any interest the police will have to throw out some new evidence to the public, but I feel since they aren’t , they don’t have anything...

The other sites are just warning some individuals about posting negative comments about how this case has been handled by the family and LE but I feel for the few posters who have posted negative thoughts, it’s just human nature, frustration, and a right to say it..

Finally, my family has been through it, but when a serious crime occurs within a family and the media runs with it , it’s open season, my feeling is you have to allow the negative in along with the positive to solve a case , in my families case the negative views actually helped solve the 30 year murder of my moms aunt.......
 
  • #590
The day Cheryl went missing was William scheduled to work, if so did he go in , or call out as a concerned husband , was the GF hanging around that day?
It is my understanding that Bill had Tuesdays off. October 2 was a Tuesday. I am not sure about GF.
 
  • #591
I take it by the lack of discussion I get the everyone is getting tired of this missing persons case.....

I know this case is extremely frustrating, and going nowhere, I live in Riverside and there is no talk about it, other than the billboard and a missing persons poster in the Kroger store, no interest.......

I know we have dissected this case from day one and before, but I still feel we’re missing something, I know that to spark any interest the police will have to throw out some new evidence to the public, but I feel since they aren’t , they don’t have anything...

The other sites are just warning some individuals about posting negative comments about how this case has been handled by the family and LE but I feel for the few posters who have posted negative thoughts, it’s just human nature, frustration, and a right to say it..

Finally, my family has been through it, but when a serious crime occurs within a family and the media runs with it , it’s open season, my feeling is you have to allow the negative in along with the positive to solve a case , in my families case the negative views actually helped solve the 30 year murder of my moms aunt.......

Sorry, actually been absent due to jury duty...isn't that ironic.

Here's a timeline to remind/rekindle:
The police have given interviews and asked the public for any tips or leads to help find Cheryl. They have asked for video that may provide information on Cheryl's disappearance. “We want citizens to be aware of the fact that we are actively looking into everything, and we will continue to do so until Cheryl is found," Lead Detective Abney said in a statement. "We appreciate all the tips and leads provided to this department. Riverside Police would like our citizens to know there is no evidence of a public safety risk at this time. We also want the community to know how hard we are working to solve this. We hope that she is fine, but we are going through our investigation thoroughly. We are treating it as a criminal investigation.” Riverside police have not charged anyone or named a suspect.

If you have any information: please contact Riverside police.

---->Riverside Police Department<----
Phone: 937-233-1801, extension 828
937-681-2301
937-233-2080
Email: Detective Travis Abney
[email protected]
If you see her, call 911 immediately.

*Timeline of Events*

On 9/25, a week before Cheryl’s disappearance, according to court records her estranged husband, William (Bill) Coker, was served with divorce papers. According to an affidavit, a woman tells police Coker's husband was blind-sided by the divorce. Another person in the affidavit called it a messy divorce. An affidavit says they still lived together.

On 10/1 at night, William and his daughter, Cheryl’s youngest, returned from a trip to Florida.

On 10/2/18, after dropping her youngest daughter off at Stebbins High School about 7:30am; Cheryl went MISSING. After that, police believe she went back to her home on Christy Ave in Riverside, Ohio 45431. It’s unknown what she did for the next 3 hours. Around 10:52am that same morning, Cheryl’s 2016 Toyota Highlander is seen on security camera footage traveling north on Spinning Rd coming from the direction of her house, turning into the back of a parking lot at 5514 Burkhardt Rd (Spinning Kroger/Clancy's Tavern), and parking in the farthest, last row about a half mile from her home a few minutes drive away. The camera’s motion, activated sensors didn’t see who was driving the vehicle, or who exited the vehicle after parking. “Unfortunately, the cameras have motion sensors that activate them,” Det. Abney told Dateline. “It only picks up motion on the sidewalk. And there was no motion there at that time, so the camera went into sleep mode right when the vehicle parked.” Cheryl works as a crash technician and her employer, KLD Associates, is flexible about letting her work from home, Matthew Carroll, Cheryl's nephew, told Dateline, so it wouldn’t be unusual for her to go home instead of to work. That day, however, nobody was able to contact Cheryl. She did not show up for work at the office or do any work from home, Matthew told Dateline. Her family became worried and posted on social media trying to figure out where she might be.

On 10/3 just after midnight, Cheryl's sister was the one to call police to report her missing. The sister told officials that Cheryl's soon to be ex-husband and their daughter had just gotten back from a trip to Florida the night before, and that Cheryl had woken up and dropped her daughter off at school, but hadn't been heard from since. Her daughter said that Cheryl acted normal enough while dropping her off, but hadn't answered her phone all day. At that point, her sister went out to check all the places she reportedly frequented in the area, but was not able to find her. Family members on scene told officers how concerned they were about Cheryl's disappearance and how she'd never done anything like that before. Her husband arrived on scene a bit later, and told a detective the two had an open marriage, and agreed to be formally interviewed at the Riverside Police Department at a later time. Police proceeded to issue a BOLO (Be On the Lookout) for Cheryl and her car, which her family also could not find that day. The documents do say that no statements were made by the family that implied foul play on his part. Riverside police have said Coker's husband is cooperating.

On 10/3 around 8pm, Cheryl’s locked car was found by her eldest daughter who used the Find an Iphone App to locate it in the parking lot seen on security footage. Inside officials found a backpack with Cheryl's purse, miscellaneous medication, Cheryl's iPhone, driver’s license, credit cards, and other miscellaneous items. A preliminary search was done on her phone, but nothing was reportedly discovered in her phone that would give any indication of where she went or who she was with.

On 10/3, detectives went out to speak with several neighbors. Some neighbors said that Cheryl was 'devastated' about her marriage ending, and another said that she was upset about it because it's 'nineteen years down the drain'.

On 10/4, Police in Riverside are asking for the public’s help after a woman suddenly disappeared this week on 10/2. “She had also missed work that day which is very odd for her. According to her family, she has never done anything like this before, seems to be a good mother from what we have been told. Again, all of this is out of character according to the family,” said Detective Travis Abney of Riverside Police. Coker is a mother of two and grandmother of one. Her family says these circumstances are unheard of. No one has heard from her since she dropped her daughter off on Tuesday. She has missed the last three days of work.

On 10/5, detectives spoke to a man who worked with Cheryl, who wanted them to know about a message she had sent in a group text. The screen shot has a message sent by Cheryl on 9/24, it reads, "I think he got served today cuz I just got this text from him, 'thanks for putting the nail in my coffin i'm going to be making 1750 if they put me in a clerk position 1650 if there's nothing available thanks'." Another person then replied, "Wish I made 17.50 lol", to which Cheryl then replied, "Lmao! So I will be in tomorrow if I'm not dead. Bahahaha.”

On 10/6, detectives said they got a call from Cheryl's husband who said that $4,000 was missing from a box they kept cash in inside their closet, and he suspected Cheryl took it. He said that the day before, he had gone to replace money that he had taken before going on a Florida trip.

On 10/8, A search warrant was conducted by Riverside Police, Ohio BCI, and the FBI on Cheryl’s home including automobiles. It’s unknown if anything was found or removed from the home.

On 10/9, family and friends held a prayer vigil at Stebbins High School.

On 10/17, Riverside Police still, “actively and aggressively" searching for Cheryl Coker. Investigators have been in regular contact with Coker's family and are asking the public for information or tips on where she may be.

On 10/22, Detective Travis Abney says, "It's still a mystery, but we don't have any concerns that she was abducted at this point." Detective Abney says every available department resource is focusing on this case: "All the detectives are working as many hours as we possibly can, which has pretty much been full-time for us at this point. Our supervisors have been helping out as well." Detective Abney says, "I can't stress enough the amount of search warrants we have executed in this case. People we are looking into, leads and tips that we are following up on a daily basis." Hours of surveillance video footage has been reviewed, and countless leads pursued, but still no progress. Abney says at this time there's no indication of foul play, and it's still a possibility that Coker left on her own. Family and friends have been cooperating so far. Abney says, "Everyone seems to be on the same page. The ultimate goal is to find Cheryl and find out what happened." Riverside Police are open to any and all information on this case, asking people to email or call them at any time.

On 10/28, the local community and friends conducted an organized search, passed out flyers, and knocked on the doors of homes/businesses in and around Cheryl's neighborhood.

On 10/29, Dateline NBC featured Cheryl on their webseries, 'Missing in America'. “Cheryl is very big on family. She's probably the most dedicated parent to her kids and granddaughter that I've ever seen,” Matthew told Dateline about his aunt, who has one daughter in school and one who is an adult. Matthew says his family continues to search for Cheryl. “She would never just disappear like this and not have contact with her kids or family,” he told Dateline. “Her kids and family are her life.”

On 10/31, Police stated that new evidence including video had surfaced. The details of the evidence are not being released to the public.

On 10/31, Riverside Police also released to the news search warrant affidavits/search requests for at least 11 search warrants:

*Two search warrants for a 2017 Toyota Tacoma
*Two search warrants for a 2016 Toyota Highlander
*A search warrant of husband William Coker’s cell phone
*Court orders to search the bank records of both Cheryl and William
*Court order to search records held by William Coker’s place of employment
*Two court orders for cell phone records for two separate phone numbers
*A search warrant of the Coker residence on Christy Avenue in Riverside.

Riverside police will not say what was found as a result of the search warrants. Court records show unspecified items were retrieved from the couple’s home, a 2016 Toyota Highlander (the same make of car in which Cheryl Coker’s personal items were discovered), and a 2017 Toyota Tacoma. Investigators including Riverside Police, Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation, and FBI sought a lengthy list of items from the Coker residence, the warrant shows, including furniture covers, body fluids, computers, cell phones, weapons, tools and other items “used to conceal or dispose of a body,” and “any and all materials, electrical stimuli, chemicals, topicals, indigestible or inhalants that could render a human unresponsive or unconscious.”

Cheryl's estranged husband following what Police said is standard procedure was named in court documents as a person of interest. “We had probable cause to believe that he [William Coker] was the last person to be in the house with her,” said Det. Travis Abney on the day she disappeared. The search warrant affidavits listed probable cause for kidnapping, but Abney said in an interview, “There isn’t any evidence to support that a kidnapping has taken place.” He said the probable cause for kidnapping initially was established because Cheryl Coker’s vehicle was found abandoned with her belongings inside.

Police also sought to obtain from William Coker’s employer several records, including interior and exterior surveillance video for certain days and times, information about work injuries and the entirety of his personnel file. The affidavit attached to the search request sent to Coker’s employer referenced scabs on William’s elbows observed during an interview, and swollen knuckles observed during another interview. Coker, according to the affidavit, said he had injured his left hand in a forklift injury at work, but did not report the injury.

On 11/1, after weeks of attempting to contact Cheryl’s husband William with no luck, News Center 7’s James Brown caught up with him at work. When asked if William thought Cheryl was still alive, he said, “I sure hope so. I loved her.” William said that he loves his wife “very much” and that he didn’t have anything to do with his wife’s disappearance. “I wish I knew [what happened],” he said. “I have theories but I don't want to get into those because it would hurt my daughter.” He agreed to do an on-camera interview the next day, but WHIO Channel 7 has not been able to reach him for a 2nd interview.

On 11/17, local community and friends conducted an organized search of Huffman Metropark/Dam near Cheryl's home and her youngest daughter's school.

On 11/23, local community and friends conducted an organized search of Woodman Fen near Cheryl's home.

On 12/27, investigators conduct a lengthy meeting to discuss the continued investigation of Cheryl’s disappearance.

On 12/28, Riverside’s Police chief did an exclusive interview with Channel 2 news. He said he has one detective entirely dedicated to Cheryl’s case. They interviewed credible informants today that helped provide insight into the case. The police chief speculates that Cheryl was not the type to leave her family and anyone involved in the disappearance was close to her. He confirmed the FBI has been involved in the case since the start and has also been working out of state tips and searches.

On 1/7/19, Multiple sealed documents filed by investigators in the investigation into the disappearance of Cheryl Coker (Carroll).
 
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  • #592
The above from Cheryl Coker missing facebook...thank you for the detailed timeline of events! Worth repeating here.
 
  • #593
That timeline is perfect, something to dissect.....

When and if this case ever goes to trial, and since I am a Montegomery resident I would love to be on the jury, .......but I know they would never select me.....damn....
 
  • #594
On the above timeline, the entry dated 1/17/19, what would be in the multiple sealed documents.......are these documents at the prosecutors office or at the police station......

What does the police chief mean the FBI is working out of state tips and searches.......


Personally I think the police need to dig deeper into last years Florida vacation that occurred just before Cheryl disappeared.....
I think and unless someone can produce evidence an argument that I am wrong , I think between William and the GF there was a plan being devised when they got home if Cheryl was still there,....remember William had told Cheryl before he left for Florida that he wanted her gone before he came home ( I remember that from a WHIO article),...

I think between the two of them they devised a plan to rid themselves of her, so he can keep everything,.....the reason I also think is William was well to scripted after Cheryl disappeared with the police and days leading up to the so called $4000, incident..

Does anyone think, and I will direct this question to Wyome, since you stated you live in Florida, is there places or shady a**holes that William could have contracted to take care of his dirty little job.....is this where the so called $4000 paid for.......

I picture William contracting a knucklehead to do his dirty work, that William took care of Cheryl, staged her vehicle, and then took Cheryl’s body to a undisclosed location met up with this knucklehead and the body headed back to Florida, and the Everglades, never to be seen again....this would explain why he’s so relaxed in Riverside......

Just my opinion or theory, any thoughts...
 
  • #595
Actually, Tooltime I never considered the possibility of William paying someone to get rid of her body after he took care of the deed...but it's an interesting thought. Doubt someone took her and drove all the way to Florida, but I could see someone taking $4,000 to dispose of a corpse -- wouldn't have to commit the crime and in need of cash. Very interesting thought.

Oh there's a lot of seedy parts to Central Florida, but I can't wrap my head around him contracting someone there to take care of a problem in OH.
 
  • #596
The day Cheryl went missing was William scheduled to work, if so did he go in , or call out as a concerned husband , was the GF hanging around that day?
Well, if he went to work, then he would probably not know that she was missing.

Here's what has always been confusing to me. Bill was allegedly working on Cheryl's truck that morning, because it wouldn't start. So, we know he was obviously home when Cheryl allegedly left in her car to go to work. Of course, no one saw Bill in the car with her or saw Bill drive her car to the spot where her car was found with her belongings.

Then LE mentions a video of a man dressed in black months later, but how can they discern that it was him in that video? What time was that video, and would he have had the time to drive her car to that spot, somehow walk home in all black clothing, climb a fence, and then what, go home and get ready for work?

I have not seen whether or not Bill was working that day or even an evening shift- that may be the first clue that he might have been involved in her disappearance- if he wasn't working that day, that gave him a lot of time to dispose of Cheryl.

What has always puzzled me was how long that they waited to report her missing. Didn't someone call her work to see if she made it in? Didn't someone notice she wasn't home from work her usual time? Didn't someone notice that she was not home at all that night?
 
  • #597
I know I won't get clarity on most of these questions, but have to jot them down anyway.

1) Bill was served divorce papers a week before Cheryl went missing 9/25, which would mean about 2 DAYS prior to him leaving for Florida -- around 48 hrs. before heading out on a "family" vacation, and for which he's "blindsided" by according the GF's affidavit.

Strangely, though, the text about the nail in the coffin was shared by Cheryl to a co-worker on 9/24.

If both dates are accurate on this timeline, it makes me wonder if Bill was referring to something else in regards to the nail in the coffin. Always kind of perplexed by that statement and how'd he make less money because Costco doesn't demote people who may have extramarital affairs and get divorces.

2) "Her daughter said that Cheryl acted normal enough while dropping her off, but hadn't answered her phone all day." I've seen this quoted several times in early MSM articles, but was always bothered by its brevity. Normal enough could mean so many things, given the stress that family was under during the time.

3) I understand that the family did not raise any red flags very early on about William possibly be involved, and I am not critical of those actions in the least. I just wonder, if Cheryl's mom or older daughter or sister-in-law, or anyone in the family, were aware that Cheryl filed for divorce?
 
  • #598
when I was thinking about the possibility that William paid someone $4000 to dispose of Cheryl’s body..

I thought about this theory on Sunday when I had to travel I-75 highway to the Cincinati Airport , which believe it is located in Kentucky, go figure....

My point , this I-75 highway goes right through Dayton Ohio, and goes directly to Florida, I could leave my home right now get on I-35 which is only 5 minutes from Cheryl’s home and travel west and be on I-75 in about 15 minutes, there is a lot of heavy truck travel on these highways....

Let’s say William paid someone $4000, while he was in Florida, and let’s say the individual is a over-the- road truck driver, let’s say William met this truck driver who he had paid $4000, ( maybe he paid half to seal the contract and the balance when Cheryl’s body was picked up, in Dayton Ohio , the truck driver could get on I -75 and travel to , let’s say the Orlando area in about 13 hours.....this is just a possibility, maybe the 18 wheeler truck was refrigerated .......

I have been exploring these angles , just for the fact with the family searches, the Texas Equsearch multiple searches that he did not seem fazed or nervous, carrying on life he knew they could search all day and not find her......
 
  • #599
Well, if he went to work, then he would probably not know that she was missing.

Here's what has always been confusing to me. Bill was allegedly working on Cheryl's truck that morning, because it wouldn't start. So, we know he was obviously home when Cheryl allegedly left in her car to go to work. Of course, no one saw Bill in the car with her or saw Bill drive her car to the spot where her car was found with her belongings.

Then LE mentions a video of a man dressed in black months later, but how can they discern that it was him in that video? What time was that video, and would he have had the time to drive her car to that spot, somehow walk home in all black clothing, climb a fence, and then what, go home and get ready for work?

I have not seen whether or not Bill was working that day or even an evening shift- that may be the first clue that he might have been involved in her disappearance- if he wasn't working that day, that gave him a lot of time to dispose of Cheryl.

What has always puzzled me was how long that they waited to report her missing. Didn't someone call her work to see if she made it in? Didn't someone notice she wasn't home from work her usual time? Didn't someone notice that she was not home at all that night?

Tuesdays are Bill's day off -- that is per family on the missing FB page. I am unsure about the GF. Although he did have the day off, he was the one to pick the highschooler up, so didn't have ALL day, but a reasonable amount of time if he is guilty.

Yes, Bill himself said in the audio interview that he was home and that he woke up (hmm hum...inaudible to "do something" and Cheryl was in the shower, but claimed that he went right back to bed and never saw her or spoke to her. So yes, he was home and actually places Cheryl back at the home after dropping her daughter off at school.

I need to go back and check the very early details, but according to family/friends, Tuesdays were mandatory days for Cheryl to go to the office AND that Cheryl routinely would get ready for work AFTER dropping her daughter off at school. I want to say she had to report at 9:00 a.m. Tuesday mornings at the office (someone in the know correct me if I am wrong). I believe work people did try contacting her, as it was completely out of character for her not to show up to work and/or not call. So I think alarm bells sounded early, particularly for co-workers.

I often wonder about Bill working on her work vehicle that morning. Did Cheryl routinely take THAT vehicle to work on Tuesdays? Is that why he was hoping to dump that one at Clancy's Tavern? Idk. But remember he claimed to be sleeping pretty much the entire morning and claimed to have never seen or spoken to Cheryl. So....why was he messing with her work vehicle at all?
 
  • #600
Are we sure Cheryl came home after dropping the daughter off at school, Williams memory on what he did that morning is crappy, corr3ct me if I am wrong did he state earlier on he was sleeping in the basement??

I had another theory about that fateful morning, and it may seem far fetched but I want to run this by everyone....

On 2 oct Cheryl takes the daughter to Stebbins High School, I have travelled the same route many times, for Cheryl to drive there one way, depending on traffic would have taken about 15 minutes, she would have taken the side streets from Cristy Lane to Burkhart, make a right on Woodman Dr, which would have taken her past the Airway Shopping plaza, the USAF Museum, Eastwood Metro Park ( yes the same park that was searched numerous times) , go under a overpass which puts the Riverside PD on the left side and the high school across the street.

My theory is what if Cheryl never made it home after dropping her daughter off at school, what if she was intercepted in route and someone else brought her SUV home, and then William abandoned the SUV at Kroger

Did she stop at the Eastwood Metro Park and meet someone, was someone following her to school to intercept her on the return trip, and they drove her car....

These are my theory’s because her so called time at the home after is fuzzy, I know the police mentioned her electronic communications stopped BUT someone else could have been doing that...

If Cheryl was intercepted or kidnapped in route home would have made Williams plan easier so the neighbors wouldnt see anything....
 
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