Found Deceased OH - Cheryl Coker, 46, Riverside, 2 Oct 2018 *husband suspect* #2

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  • #621
I see others are trying to dissect this case and hopefully solve, I saw an interesting post that William resided in Northridge and was evicted from the property in 2002, and the home has been abandoned since 2008...

I know they also had a program this am at the Airway Kitchen , to have coffee with a cop, to discuss the Coker case, I understand only two people showed up.......I wish I knew about this,very poorly advertised, I would have attended this am to ask my questions and theory’s ,I can see this restaurant from my backyard, could have walked there.
 
  • #622
I saw Riverside Police Dept. had another Coffee with a Cop event (something this Dept as well as other police depts in the area have regularly)
But I didn't see that this was in relation to Cheryl or that the Cheryl Coker case would be specifically discussed/was the reason for the event.

Was it?

Coffee with a Cop
 
  • #623
I hate the spell check I meant to say How did he get Cheryl’s lifeless body out of the house......how did he conceal her?
Not sure how he removed her but having the hood up on her company vehicle may have been done to block the view of his movements IMO.
 
  • #624
I have been by Cheryl’s homes numerous times and as I see it the homes in that neighbor sit about one car length from curb to home foundation, so he would have to be very careful not to be seen , and I am surprised at the amount of car and foot traffic by the home.....

Question for the group, let’s say for discussion purposes, William killed Cheryl in the home, first off her body would have discharged bodily fluids of the natural body shutdown, my question is how much time did William have before “rigor” set in on Cheryl’s body, because once set in she would have been as stiff as a board....

I am trying to figure out what he used to transport her out of the home, did he jam her inside a large suitcase, dufflebag, rug, a tarp, he had to use something for camouflage and not to transfer bodily fluids to a vehicle..

Then he had to clean up the home before the daughter got home, and how long would it take for the smell of death in the home.....

Another question, I know their backyard fence borders the Spinning middle school, I have driven through the school parking lot and have seen their home from the back, I have to recheck or does anyone know is there a gate in their backyard where he could have backed his truck up pretending to drop off stuff for their pool..

Or did William conceal Cheryl’s body at the home until after dark, and load her in a vehicle, maybe since the Florida trip and the daughter being tight with the GF, maybe the GF went somewhere with the daughter to Bill could transfer the body under the cloat of darkiness....

So before we can solve this case we need to figure out how he disposed of the body, ....without being noticed by the neighbors......
 
  • #625
After reading everything I can find about this case until I went cross-eyed, ......I still believe the solution of this case , begins on The Who, what and where on how he was able to get Cheryl out of the home undetected, ........

If his crime was unplanned, and after he changed his pants after realizing what he did , he had to quickly come up with a plan of disposal.

Question, does anyone know who picked up the daughter after school??,
Was it him or did he recruit the GF to pick her up???

So let’s say this this was a spur of the moment heat of anger, I think it would have taken him a few hours to get his witts about himself and remove Cheryl from the home....

Does anyone know if the older daughter has made unannounced visits to the home to visit, If so I wonder if he was worried about that two...

I just can’t believe he was that cool and calm, and was able to pull the body removal from the home that cleanly, without help, and not having the neighbors notice, especially when the neighbors knew Cheryl was divorcing, just to keep another eye out for her.....
 
  • #626
Not sure how he removed her but having the hood up on her company vehicle may have been done to block the view of his movements IMO.

This is a pretty interesting thought. My only confusion is that the neighbor witnessed 2 cars in the driveway, both face in -- one was Cheryl's vehicle, the other was Bills -- around 10:39 a.m. on the day she went missing. Where was the work vehicle? On the street in front of their home, I would assume?

I wonder if the account of a witness seeing Bill "work" on Cheryl's work vehicle means that he moved in into the driveway first, or even behind his to block views after dumping Cheryl's car? Of course this assumes that the work vehicle was operational to begin with, unless he did something to disable it. tb24oh has made mention that Cheryl's company had to get it towed from the Coker residence due to being not driveable. Seems like that would be easy information for LE to get from towing operator. I wonder how long it took for Cheryl's company to tow it?

I wondered too if he was seen "working" on it because that was the car he was intending to ditch along with her stuff and he couldn't start it. I know Cheryl had to report to work every Tuesday. Wonder if it was customary for her to take the work vehicle on those days?

Or maybe he was planning to use her work vehicle to dump her body to keep his car as clean as possible?
 
  • #627
I understand that the Cokers were famous for throwing a 4th of July pool party each year. Anyone know if one happened this year?
 
  • #628
This part of the case has me bugged ,i drove by the home again and pulled up satellite images of the home from above , trying to look at the layout, take a look back at the photos the day the police searched the home and note the closeness of the street and the driveway....

Does anyone know if they had a large freezer in their home, I was trying to determine if they did he hid her in there until he formulated his plan for disposal, but he also realized the clock was ticking not knowing when the police were going to make a house call..

I wondered when the mailman delivers the mail , was there any newspapers being delivered , UPS or FEDEX in neighborhood, was there any lawn care workers in neighborhood.....

Also unrelated to this , but the thought came up , the day he was witnessed roaming in the blackhoodie, I can’t exactly remember the weather that day, but LE could request through FBI and federal agencies to get a satellite view of him that day and the route he took....
 
  • #629
Trying to figure out how he removed her body from their home is driving me nuts, looking at photos of the home, driving by the home I see a two car driveway with the right side driveway proceeds along the side of the home to the backyard, I think it would be difficult on that right lane with the neighbors home right there and their two side windows facing the Coker residence, so being totally discreet on that side is impossible.

Is there any place on the property which to me looks like a 1/4 acre lot, that he could have hid her body temporarily....does anyone know if William had any of his friends come over that day to help him??

Are any of the large suitcases missing from last years Florida trip, he was in the military for a short time I wonder did he use his duffle bag, if I had to choose I think that’s what he probably used, the only thing is that if he did use that he would have to have taken her out at the grave site because his duffle bag if used would have had his name stenciled on it, ( I know these duffle bags do hold a lot, and are tough, I dragged my duffle bag across the Middle East on two tours during the war)...
 
  • #630
Trying to figure out how he removed her body from their home is driving me nuts, looking at photos of the home, driving by the home I see a two car driveway with the right side driveway proceeds along the side of the home to the backyard, I think it would be difficult on that right lane with the neighbors home right there and their two side windows facing the Coker residence, so being totally discreet on that side is impossible.

Is there any place on the property which to me looks like a 1/4 acre lot, that he could have hid her body temporarily....does anyone know if William had any of his friends come over that day to help him??

Are any of the large suitcases missing from last years Florida trip, he was in the military for a short time I wonder did he use his duffle bag, if I had to choose I think that’s what he probably used, the only thing is that if he did use that he would have to have taken her out at the grave site because his duffle bag if used would have had his name stenciled on it, ( I know these duffle bags do hold a lot, and are tough, I dragged my duffle bag across the Middle East on two tours during the war)...

Generally speaking, neighbors keep to themselves nowadays. I only notice what my immediate neighbors are doing if I'm leaving for work or walking the dogs. And even then, I'm not super attentive to details (was their garage up? what was he/she wearing? what was he/she doing? were both cars there? idk!)...I just wave or verbally greet and get on with it because I'm checking off the boxes and focused on where I need to be next.

I also never look out the window when I'm home, with the exception of the back, where most of open views are -- but no neighbor views.

Even our Ring has become somewhat of a car alarm where it's frequently ignored. Turns out a lot of stuff sets it off and we've become conditioned to ignore the alarms unless we're expecting something/someone.

So I think if I'm representative of a typical neighbor, he could stuff a body into a vehicle without being seen fairly easily. He's also a pretty sturdy male, so I don't believe lifting her, even at dead weight, would be an issue...particularly with adreneline.
 
  • #631
This entire case is just hinky to me- from start to finish.

I don't know how he could do all of that in a short amount of time, especially with the video of someone in all black climbing a fence- what was the purpose of that, anyway? Not like he buried Cheryl there, right? Or did he have a vehicle parked there with her in it, maybe he knocked her out or drugged her, so she wasn't deceased yet? That would explain no death smell in the vehicle- he may not have killed her at home or in a vehicle. No one has ever brought this scenario up, but this is how I think it happened.

BC was smart enough to know her scent would already be in that vehicle he used because they were married. I think he knew he couldn't kill her before- as that would cause fluids to leak and leave evidence. Maybe he offered her a cup of coffee before work and she drank it, got drowsy, and he walked her to the vehicle before the drug caused her to go unconscious. Meanwhile, he acted quick, bringing her vehicle with her belongings to that parking lot, ran back and climbed a fence, jumped into what ever vehicle he used to transport Cheryl who was still alive, brought her to a remote place and killed her, then buried her. He probably buried a few items with her to leave no evidence in the vehicle.
 
  • #632
Wyome and Steelslady , thanks for the inputs, I like to think that were pretty close to being on the same page, that if we can figure out how he got her out of the home is key!!

Wyome, I wish I could just ignore what goes on outside my home but the crime element has increased...
Even though I live on a military base, the military housing is located outside the fence line, we do have Federal Police Officers and Military Police with Military Dog teams, we have our fair share of crime from the outside ( fine outstanding individuals), for example about three weeks ago I was awaken by noise outside around 300 am, I noted a individual breaking into cars , my wife had a fit , as I am chasing this clown down the street while speaking to the police on my cell phone, he was caught , and I made a new friend, he needed his mouth washed out with soap with the language he was yelling at me, I wished him a good day and see ya soon in court....yeah I know I am crazy, but it’s the only way to stop crime...

So in Cheryl’s case I remember reading that Cheryls friends and some neighbors were aware of the divorce being served and they were looking out for her, so I do feel some of her neighbors were discreetly watching what was going on to protect her...

I thought of another direction that he might have used to dispose of the body, around our area there are old wells and some areas use septic tanks, I wonder if William knew friends who lived more in the rural areas and he dropped her in a septic tank, and with the lime and other chemicals used to break down the waste her body would disentegrate...

I thought of the septic tank after seeing a old story of Noah Thomas of Virginia, age 5 , who was reported missing and his body was found in a septic tank, even though it was determined the tank access cover was not secure and he fell in , just proves how easy it is to gain access...

I just don’t think William buried her in the woods....
 
  • #633
Wyome and Steelslady , thanks for the inputs, I like to think that were pretty close to being on the same page, that if we can figure out how he got her out of the home is key!!

Wyome, I wish I could just ignore what goes on outside my home but the crime element has increased...
Even though I live on a military base, the military housing is located outside the fence line, we do have Federal Police Officers and Military Police with Military Dog teams, we have our fair share of crime from the outside ( fine outstanding individuals), for example about three weeks ago I was awaken by noise outside around 300 am, I noted a individual breaking into cars , my wife had a fit , as I am chasing this clown down the street while speaking to the police on my cell phone, he was caught , and I made a new friend, he needed his mouth washed out with soap with the language he was yelling at me, I wished him a good day and see ya soon in court....yeah I know I am crazy, but it’s the only way to stop crime...

So in Cheryl’s case I remember reading that Cheryls friends and some neighbors were aware of the divorce being served and they were looking out for her, so I do feel some of her neighbors were discreetly watching what was going on to protect her...

I thought of another direction that he might have used to dispose of the body, around our area there are old wells and some areas use septic tanks, I wonder if William knew friends who lived more in the rural areas and he dropped her in a septic tank, and with the lime and other chemicals used to break down the waste her body would disentegrate...

I thought of the septic tank after seeing a old story of Noah Thomas of Virginia, age 5 , who was reported missing and his body was found in a septic tank, even though it was determined the tank access cover was not secure and he fell in , just proves how easy it is to gain access...

I just don’t think William buried her in the woods....

Glad you caught that SOB!

Yes, I'm under the impression from some friends and at least one neighbor that they were aware that Cheryl filed for divorce. But, I don't believe she expressed fear of him. I have not read any reports about that. Yes, there was that one text to co-workers, but it was made somewhat in jest. So, I'm not convinced that neighbors were "looking out for her" in regards to safety.

I asked a while back, but I'm still very curious as to whether Cheryl's family was aware that she filed for divorce. I follow the FB group through my son's profile since I don't have an account. Would not ask a question under his identity, but would love it if someone that has access can. When LE did initial questioning of family early on, no one in the family raised any red flags about Bill possibly being involved because of the recent divorce filings. Makes me wonder if any of them knew. Even without knowledge of a divorce, no one in the family raised early on to LE that Bill could be violent. Did they even know that Cheryl was dating other people or was that disclosed through the investigation? I guess it's not a big sticking point either way, except for the fact that she may have been a very private person, even withholding things from family, despite her being such a fun-loving extrovert.
 
  • #634
This entire case is just hinky to me- from start to finish.

I don't know how he could do all of that in a short amount of time, especially with the video of someone in all black climbing a fence- what was the purpose of that, anyway? Not like he buried Cheryl there, right? Or did he have a vehicle parked there with her in it, maybe he knocked her out or drugged her, so she wasn't deceased yet? That would explain no death smell in the vehicle- he may not have killed her at home or in a vehicle. No one has ever brought this scenario up, but this is how I think it happened.

BC was smart enough to know her scent would already be in that vehicle he used because they were married. I think he knew he couldn't kill her before- as that would cause fluids to leak and leave evidence. Maybe he offered her a cup of coffee before work and she drank it, got drowsy, and he walked her to the vehicle before the drug caused her to go unconscious. Meanwhile, he acted quick, bringing her vehicle with her belongings to that parking lot, ran back and climbed a fence, jumped into what ever vehicle he used to transport Cheryl who was still alive, brought her to a remote place and killed her, then buried her. He probably buried a few items with her to leave no evidence in the vehicle.

Interesting and good point. Drugged or maybe a taser?

If he strangled her, her claw marks to survive would be all over him, and all he has are these injuries to the back of the arms above the elbow. I always wondered if he was fighting to hold her down to drown her in the shower and his arms were abrasively rubbing against the tub. But the affidavits also suggest LE witnessed swollen knuckles. Jesus, I can't believe this case has gone cold and silent.
 
  • #635
Interesting and good point. Drugged or maybe a taser?

If he strangled her, her claw marks to survive would be all over him, and all he has are these injuries to the back of the arms above the elbow. I always wondered if he was fighting to hold her down to drown her in the shower and his arms were abrasively rubbing against the tub. But the affidavits also suggest LE witnessed swollen knuckles. Jesus, I can't believe this case has gone cold and silent.
I am thinking that whatever vehicle he took her away in (IF he is the one who harmed Cheryl), that she had to have been alive somehow. Maybe he did tie her up and put her in a trunk. If she had been deceased already, bodily fluids would have been found in the vehicle. Just my opinion.
 
  • #636
Glad you caught that SOB!

Yes, I'm under the impression from some friends and at least one neighbor that they were aware that Cheryl filed for divorce. But, I don't believe she expressed fear of him. I have not read any reports about that. Yes, there was that one text to co-workers, but it was made somewhat in jest. So, I'm not convinced that neighbors were "looking out for her" in regards to safety.

I asked a while back, but I'm still very curious as to whether Cheryl's family was aware that she filed for divorce. I follow the FB group through my son's profile since I don't have an account. Would not ask a question under his identity, but would love it if someone that has access can. When LE did initial questioning of family early on, no one in the family raised any red flags about Bill possibly being involved because of the recent divorce filings. Makes me wonder if any of them knew. Even without knowledge of a divorce, no one in the family raised early on to LE that Bill could be violent. Did they even know that Cheryl was dating other people or was that disclosed through the investigation? I guess it's not a big sticking point either way, except for the fact that she may have been a very private person, even withholding things from family, despite her being such a fun-loving extrovert.

Just curious- is the FB group active still?? Or is it quiet like the thread has been? Not asking for what's being discussed as that is a violation of TOS, just wondering if people there are still talking about CC.
I try to avoid SM pages so I don't cloud my judgement with rumors that pop up so often in those groups- I couldn't even participate in the Ally Kostial thread because of all the rumors my brother who just graduated from Ole Miss was telling me.
 
  • #637
Just curious- is the FB group active still?? Or is it quiet like the thread has been? Not asking for what's being discussed as that is a violation of TOS, just wondering if people there are still talking about CC.
I try to avoid SM pages so I don't cloud my judgement with rumors that pop up so often in those groups- I couldn't even participate in the Ally Kostial thread because of all the rumors my brother who just graduated from Ole Miss was telling me.
They are still active, but with the same posters. Some of Cheryl's family and friends have been posting on them. They are beyond frustrated. My heart goes out to them.
 
  • #638
Just curious- is the FB group active still?? Or is it quiet like the thread has been? Not asking for what's being discussed as that is a violation of TOS, just wondering if people there are still talking about CC.
I try to avoid SM pages so I don't cloud my judgement with rumors that pop up so often in those groups- I couldn't even participate in the Ally Kostial thread because of all the rumors my brother who just graduated from Ole Miss was telling me.
I sent you a PM
 
  • #639
If I were the county prosecutor I would be trying this case now, our suspect is laughing his butt off because he knows they have nothing...

I hate to say it but our justice system sucks, and the “bad guys” know this , they know if they ever get caught up with their respective trials could drag out years....for example..

There is a case where a mother killed her three young children, in 2014/2015 she was arrested in 2015, but her trial keeps getting delayed, personally I think it’s for the lawyers to rack up billable hours.....

The Pike county murders the state and county dragging their feet .....

There’s another case of a high school girl who gave birth, the baby took a breath, she killed it and burned it in the families backyard burnpit, this case has been dragging ......

I follow these cases and the dragging of feet and delays make me sick, as I said above I think it’s just lawyers racking up billable hours ,

What ever happened to a speedy trial , my god the longer these cases drag out witnesses get older, die off , or a witnesses memory gets fuzzy, lousey system....
 
  • #640
If I were the county prosecutor I would be trying this case now, our suspect is laughing his butt off because he knows they have nothing...

I hate to say it but our justice system sucks, and the “bad guys” know this , they know if they ever get caught up with their respective trials could drag out years....for example..

There is a case where a mother killed her three young children, in 2014/2015 she was arrested in 2015, but her trial keeps getting delayed, personally I think it’s for the lawyers to rack up billable hours.....

The Pike county murders the state and county dragging their feet .....

There’s another case of a high school girl who gave birth, the baby took a breath, she killed it and burned it in the families backyard burnpit, this case has been dragging ......

I follow these cases and the dragging of feet and delays make me sick, as I said above I think it’s just lawyers racking up billable hours ,

What ever happened to a speedy trial , my god the longer these cases drag out witnesses get older, die off , or a witnesses memory gets fuzzy, lousey system....

When someone’s guilty, what’s the point of a speedy trial and near-certain acquittal?
 
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