Found Deceased OH - Cheryl Coker, 46, Riverside, 2 Oct 2018 *husband suspect* #2

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  • #721
The last I gathered the police still have the SUV, the police would have been smarter at this game if they kept the home on Cristy Lane sealed, this would have helped if future evidence or witness statement ever came forward....

I think in the line of my theory, of Cheryl walking out on her own , that the clue for her disappearance in her belongings ..

Have the police ever thought of getting a search warrant to go through her medical history, example....was she ever been treated for depression, is she having trouble with menopause, or it may seem far fetched does she have a terminal illness that she left to experience life for the second time while she can....just theories.....

How was her personalities towards her coworkers, did she get along with coworkers ok , did they , the coworkers notice any changes in her...

Did she attend church services, I know a priest, minister , chaplain , etc.. would not speak about her conversations , but maybe fellow church goers , noted changes .........but if she’s in the so called open marriage, I doubt , but could be wrong , of going to church.......

Has the police really sat down with her mom and ask the tough questions about her daughter, ......

I am trying to get a picture of her mental state from Sept 2018 up to Oct 2, 2018

My theory is she “escaped” to Florida, a state she’s familiar with, and started over

Does anyone think the Riverside Police will come out on Oct 2 , with a meaningful update of this case,
 
  • #722
The problem with this theory, though, is the fact that by all accounts she was a devoted daughter, mom and grandmom. She attended a wedding of a family member the previous weekend. She was extremely family oriented. There's nothing that's been put out there to indicate she would walk away. Absolutely nothing.

So we have to look at what we know so far. We know that she recently filed for divorce. We know that she expressed extreme disappointment to neighbors about ending this marriage, and we know that she was keeping co-workers in the loop about filing. Anyone feeling (as she expressed to neighbors) like she wasted years in this marriage, would feel anxious, angry, emotional, you name it. But we also know that she was attending family functions, active on social media, going to work, even dating...these all indicate to me that she was dealing with a difficult situation but very much functioning.

It has been speculated that he wanted her out of the home when he returned home from Florida. This divorce was going to hurt his finances and security, he was already working two jobs at the time. He had the motive and the opportunity. They were both placed in the home together. He had the day off and most of the morning and early afternoon to take care of his problem.
 
  • #723
I do believe, though, that you have a point about LE overplaying their hand. I believe they've intentionally made some statements in order get William nervous and people close to him to talk. It didn't. This evidence that they are sitting on in no way implicates him conclusively or he would have been hauled in months ago. So, really, the evidence that she's deceased could be a culmination of interviews for all we know. It's no smoking gun. Extremely frustrated in the case.
 
  • #724
Exactly, we’ll spoken Wyome!
 
  • #725
I have said it from the beginning, that the police “bungled” this case from releasing the home back to the family after initial searches, gee whiz guys this was the last known location she was seen alive, they did not allow themselves to research a sealed crime scene if new evidence came foreword....
The premature naming him suspect number one, big mistake...

Just like the most recent crime where the suspect overpowered the cop and stole the Riverside Police Cruiser, the bungle here on video was the cop tased the suspect twice with no avail, well I think at that point lethal force should have used to stop him, but no the suspect drives off and ends up killing two innocent six year old girls..

I see a pattern ....
 
  • #726
The part of this case and other cases similiar to this, that really angers me, that IF the evidence the police have to name him number suspect, indicates to them that she is deceased, to me they are showing great disrespect to the victim, I get the feeling oh well....

This feeling I have comes from the murder investigation of my moms aunt that took 30 years to solve, I remember very vividly that the police had no respect for her age , she was old, they gave us hard time because she lived alone, and the biggest was at that time the suspect was black and they were worried about race issues that the city was trying to push under the the rug.....to me all excuses were a load of 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.....

So yes I do believe that law enforcement gets a oh well attitude, if the crime investigation moves at a snails place or because of external sources..

So if indeed Cheryl is deceased like they claim, out of respect for her and other victims they need to provide the justice for the victim, I am tired of excuses.....

There’s always something else that overtakes these victims cases, and after a while it will be “Cheryl who?”

I don’t believe she’s deceased, but hopefully someday the truth will come out, but I am not holding my breath......
 
  • #727
(Meant to quote your post Steelady)

You have such a thoughtful way of responding. I really enjoy your posts.

I believe she was murdered as well. But only because of all the weird statements from the odd couple's affidavits, coupled with the open marriage narrative introduced by Bill, the initial lack of suspicion of Bill by Cheryl's immediate family, her recent divorce filing, their cohabitation that night after a bitter split and "split" vacation, then Cheryl's never seen again after returning home from dropping her daughter off that very morning....not to mention Bill's own fumbling and misspeaks over that awkward radio interview.

I don't think Cheryl was open with her immediate family about the divorce or the emotional toll this decision or what led to it was doing to her. If she had I think someone within the family would have raised alarms sooner. That may have led to quicker search warrants, more extensive interviews, more sense of urgency?, idk.

Sadly, I don't have much confidence in LE's declaration of evidence of homicide in this particular case, and really don't weigh their declaration in my theory at all. I think there was a lot of laissez-faire in the beginning with no one in the family raising red flags, coupled with Bill scooping out a heavy dose of, "Hey we're open, and by the way, $4,000 missing." LE was too complacent in my opinion. They got suspicious too slowly out of the gate, got all bravado in interviews, and imo exaggerated their evidence to elicit something.

My mind goes to Susan Powell sometimes when I think about this case. As tragic as that case is, the media really hounded Josh, the FIL, the family in general for soundbites, reactions and information. Tidbits gleaned from these impromptus were both crucial and invaluable.

So why hasn't the media hounded Bill for more interviews or anyone in the know for that matter? One awkward radio interview, and no follow-up. Surely someone in the family would want to spill some stories at this point...has the media been pursuing? Have they been hounding LE?
 
  • #728
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  • #729
Wyome, I love your fourth paragraph, starting with sadly, and I agree 100% about how the police have handled this, it’s sad.........

And as per the news media , I haven’t seen anything since February...
 
  • #730
In regards to what you wrote above, ......this is one of the most strangest missing persons case, and I will borrow your term laisse-faire in regards to the family, and police.......

As I see it here in Dayton there , it seems like everyday , some eledery person wanders off , with alztimers disease, and they have media alerts all over, but to have a person go missing like Cheryl , I get the feeling it’s not urgent.....

The police have to realize one important fact, individuals like Cheryl are born, they have birthdays, they have feelings, wants, and they hurt....so when a crime is committed against someone to hurt them, they turn up missing, it’s the police, family and community banding together with a sense of urgency to find them, that’s what us humans are supposed to do...
I get the feeling that cases like Cheryl are a bothersome to authorities and families, because it interferes with their schedule and life, and the police along with the prosecution, are afraid to put their reputation on the line or worry about the cost of trials, well that’s all 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.....

Well if the police state on camera he’s number one suspect, she’s deceased, get off your duffs and do your damn job, we pay your salaries and they are hired to keep our civilization civil, ..


Well as I see it the authorities are doing a lousey job, with Cheryl’s case, and others, and my favorite good job guys policing to let a suspect get away with your patrol car, and now two, yes two six year old girls are dead, and the only mistake was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.....the police need to realize life is not a scripted episode of Mayberry.....probably explains why the police officer did not use his service revolver the bullet was in his pocket....

So let’s solve her case and others, and the police try a new option, solve the the cases...
 
  • #731
In regards to what you wrote above, ......this is one of the most strangest missing persons case, and I will borrow your term laisse-faire in regards to the family, and police.......

As I see it here in Dayton there , it seems like everyday , some eledery person wanders off , with alztimers disease, and they have media alerts all over, but to have a person go missing like Cheryl , I get the feeling it’s not urgent.....

The police have to realize one important fact, individuals like Cheryl are born, they have birthdays, they have feelings, wants, and they hurt....so when a crime is committed against someone to hurt them, they turn up missing, it’s the police, family and community banding together with a sense of urgency to find them, that’s what us humans are supposed to do...
I get the feeling that cases like Cheryl are a bothersome to authorities and families, because it interferes with their schedule and life, and the police along with the prosecution, are afraid to put their reputation on the line or worry about the cost of trials, well that’s all ********.....

Well if the police state on camera he’s number one suspect, she’s deceased, get off your duffs and do your damn job, we pay your salaries and they are hired to keep our civilization civil, ..


Well as I see it the authorities are doing a lousey job, with Cheryl’s case, and others, and my favorite good job guys policing to let a suspect get away with your patrol car, and now two, yes two six year old girls are dead, and the only mistake was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.....the police need to realize life is not a scripted episode of Mayberry.....probably explains why the police officer did not use his service revolver the bullet was in his pocket....

So let’s solve her case and others, and the police try a new option, solve the the cases...
In regards to what you wrote above, ......this is one of the most strangest missing persons case, and I will borrow your term laisse-faire in regards to the family, and police.......

As I see it here in Dayton there , it seems like everyday , some eledery person wanders off , with alztimers disease, and they have media alerts all over, but to have a person go missing like Cheryl , I get the feeling it’s not urgent.....

The police have to realize one important fact, individuals like Cheryl are born, they have birthdays, they have feelings, wants, and they hurt....so when a crime is committed against someone to hurt them, they turn up missing, it’s the police, family and community banding together with a sense of urgency to find them, that’s what us humans are supposed to do...
I get the feeling that cases like Cheryl are a bothersome to authorities and families, because it interferes with their schedule and life, and the police along with the prosecution, are afraid to put their reputation on the line or worry about the cost of trials, well that’s all ********.....

Well if the police state on camera he’s number one suspect, she’s deceased, get off your duffs and do your damn job, we pay your salaries and they are hired to keep our civilization civil, ..


Well as I see it the authorities are doing a lousey job, with Cheryl’s case, and others, and my favorite good job guys policing to let a suspect get away with your patrol car, and now two, yes two six year old girls are dead, and the only mistake was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.....the police need to realize life is not a scripted episode of Mayberry.....probably explains why the police officer did not use his service revolver the bullet was in his pocket....

So let’s solve her case and others, and the police try a new option, solve the the cases...

I share your frustration. I don't think local law enforcement was prepared for this and were slow to react. I don't think they're idiots, though; just ill-prepared, young and caught off guard. So then why aren't they using the media to help them get further information? I'm really perplexed by this. Leak something to get the conversation going. Or the family -- have they tried to get a 2 minute segment on the news to keep this story alive? It's like the media doesn't care. LE's gone silent. And the only people speaking "out" are doing so on a closed FB group. I normally don't feel weird following a case, but this one gives me a bit of pause because of the complete silence outside of a closed FB.
 
  • #732
I share your frustration. I don't think local law enforcement was prepared for this and were slow to react. I don't think they're idiots, though; just ill-prepared, young and caught off guard. So then why aren't they using the media to help them get further information? I'm really perplexed by this. Leak something to get the conversation going. Or the family -- have they tried to get a 2 minute segment on the news to keep this story alive? It's like the media doesn't care. LE's gone silent. And the only people speaking "out" are doing so on a closed FB group. I normally don't feel weird following a case, but this one gives me a bit of pause because of the complete silence outside of a closed FB.
I think the family is being quiet because they don't want to alienate Cheryl's youngest daughter. If her dad's arrested, I'm sure they would want her to feel comfortable living with one of them. As for LE who knows? Maybe they don't have anything they can leak without jeopardizing the investigation or future prosecution. They definitely don't want Bill or anyone helping him to know what evidence they have on him.

I wish everyone (not aimed at you wyome) understood the complexities involved in an investigation and the amount of evidence it takes to get a guilty verdict. Just because an arrest hasn't been made, it doesn't mean LE screwed up, they don't know what they're doing or they're just lazy.
 
  • #733
In regards to what you wrote above, ......this is one of the most strangest missing persons case, and I will borrow your term laisse-faire in regards to the family, and police.......

As I see it here in Dayton there , it seems like everyday , some eledery person wanders off , with alztimers disease, and they have media alerts all over, but to have a person go missing like Cheryl , I get the feeling it’s not urgent.....

The police have to realize one important fact, individuals like Cheryl are born, they have birthdays, they have feelings, wants, and they hurt....so when a crime is committed against someone to hurt them, they turn up missing, it’s the police, family and community banding together with a sense of urgency to find them, that’s what us humans are supposed to do...
I get the feeling that cases like Cheryl are a bothersome to authorities and families, because it interferes with their schedule and life, and the police along with the prosecution, are afraid to put their reputation on the line or worry about the cost of trials, well that’s all ********.....

Well if the police state on camera he’s number one suspect, she’s deceased, get off your duffs and do your damn job, we pay your salaries and they are hired to keep our civilization civil, ..


Well as I see it the authorities are doing a lousey job, with Cheryl’s case, and others, and my favorite good job guys policing to let a suspect get away with your patrol car, and now two, yes two six year old girls are dead, and the only mistake was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.....the police need to realize life is not a scripted episode of Mayberry.....probably explains why the police officer did not use his service revolver the bullet was in his pocket....

So let’s solve her case and others, and the police try a new option, solve the the cases...
I think you're totally and completely mistaken about LE and the prosecutors.
 
  • #734
I've known some LE to work for years on a couple of missing person's cases. Detectives take it home with them. It haunts them for years. They go over all the evidence they do have with a fine tooth comb. They revisit the area last seen numerous times. It disrupts their sleep. They even turn it over to another detective to get a fresh look at the case.

In one such case involving a friend's brother- it took 40 years to finally prosecute the guys responsible for his death, at the age of 15 years old- he'd be 67 now. Her father died just before one of them was sentenced- elderly man waiting for the day to see it finally happen, and he passed away a week before the sentencing for his son's murder. At least he knew who was responsible. Her mother died a year later, not comforted at all by the court's decision to let two out of three go off on technicalities, but one is serving time.

I also have a friend who's husband was in LE for years, now works on his own. These men and women do so much more than we could ever realize. Countless hours and research- some of them even do it off the clock! Many are so dedicated to helping find the victim. Many LE are married themselves, or have mothers, daughters, etc around Cheryl's age. Believe me, they want to find her and find out what happened. If anyone is responsible, they want them behind bars.

I won't lie and say that every single LE is wonderful- we know better. However, I do think LE took this serious in Cheryl's case, after several things happened and evidence started to slowly build. Just because they didn't speak in front of the media doesn't mean they aren't working hard behind the scenes.

People forget- these guys and gals just can't get cell phone records or check persons of interest or suspects houses on their own- they need warrants and they had better have a good reason to want them, or the judge will turn them away empty.

It's a catch 22. I am sure LE has detectives working quietly, mostly without the family involvement for several reasons- some are torn. Some think it's BC that did it, some think BC and the girlfriend, some went elsewhere and thought of others- some family, some others. LE definitely listens to all family and friends that talk, and works from there. Do you know how many stories they've had to check out? No? Me, neither.

These guys and gals work round the clock. Is this at a stand still? I don't know, perhaps leads have dried up. Then there was the tornado. Other bodies and crime to deal with as well in between all of this. Do I think they've given up yet? Heck, no!
 
  • #735
I am not sure what it means but I hear William Coker lost his supervisor position at Costco, sounds kinda of strange, I wonder what brought that on...

That got me thinking (OMG) , I wonder if he had taken out a life insurance policy out on Cheryl??, when he was hired at Costco..

Another big question, who is paying the health insurance for the younger daughter??

Big question, does anyone know if Cheryl still has her job, if so how long does the employer legally keep her on the books, IF she does turn up deceased who gets her last paycheck, vacation pay, or sick days accumulated??

And until proven deceased ( a body) , and is still alive living elsewhere, do you think Her closet friend is secretly in touch with her??
 
  • #736
I am not sure what it means but I hear William Coker lost his supervisor position at Costco, sounds kinda of strange, I wonder what brought that on...

That got me thinking (OMG) , I wonder if he had taken out a life insurance policy out on Cheryl??, when he was hired at Costco..

Another big question, who is paying the health insurance for the younger daughter??

Big question, does anyone know if Cheryl still has her job, if so how long does the employer legally keep her on the books, IF she does turn up deceased who gets her last paycheck, vacation pay, or sick days accumulated??

And until proven deceased ( a body) , and is still alive living elsewhere, do you think Her closet friend is secretly in touch with her??

We can't talk about most of the things you mentioned above because it's rumor. As far as Cheryl still having a job open to her, LE's pretty much come out and said they have evidence she's dead, so I'm sure Cheryl's employer has passed that torch.

You should reach out to the sister-in-law and Aunt and mom who routinely post on the FB groups and ask them to please join websleuths as a Verified Insider. Someone here who's more seasoned than me can tell you who they can contact.

I think the sister-in-law is the most outspoken and may at this point be willing to come on our forum. As a VI, and also a victim's family member, we can discuss much more than regurgitating what little the media's put out there.
 
  • #737
And just to add: Coming up on the heels of the 1 year anniversary of Cheryl's disappearance, with LE's declaration that she's dead and they know it's William, but he's not been charged...I'm thinking they might be a bit more inclined to discuss Cheryl, their loss. LE labeling William the way they did without having this thing in the bag was a mistake. They will never have another opportunity to interview him again.
 
  • #738
I would do the asking myself, tooltime, but I joined under my son's name because I don't do facebook. But if you feel comfortable private messaging one of them to consider talking with us on this forum as a Verified Insider, I know it would be appreciated here.
 
  • #739
I will try, but I can be as course as
 
  • #740
Continued from above , course as 60 grit sandpaper....

I have followed other cases, and this is the weirdest case ever, I have never seen a family taking such a backseat attitude of trying to find their loved one....

I really wish they would hire a private detective , or research and find a retired police detective for advice or just maybe look into the case....
 
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