MsFacetious
What a Kerfuffle...
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Holy Mother......
Attorney: Husel gave patient paralytics before lethal fentanyl dose
Okay this is sick, cruel, Inhumane, and unbelievable!!
If these accusations are true, he gave this poor lady 2 potent paralytics, followed by Fentanyl 2,000 mcg! This is just nuts...and makes absolutely no friggin sense. I’m sure after receiving the paralytics alone she appeared to be brain dead and quite possibly she was NOT.
While I was working, our medication computer system had safeguards for signaling issues with medications. We would have to override and give a reason for an unusual one-time stat dose of a med. Our pharmacists were amazing in catching things like wrong dose, overlooked allergies, drug interactions, etc and would immediately call us. The computer had also been programmed with proper dose parameters and it would kick out warnings to the MD, RN and pharmacist. It's been so long that I would have thought that these medication computer programs would be universal by now. We would scan the patient's arm band and scan the medicine. The computer would warn the nurse and program lock if she wasn't giving the appropriate medication. Also it's noted in the press that Husel would become angry when staff questioned dosage. There is a chain of command that we follow when we are concerned about an issue. Was there a breakdown in that chain?
Bugurl747, you make some excellent points regarding novice nurses and medication errors. That is one reason why I hate to see new nurses going into critical care areas. When I first began practice, we had to have at least one year under our belt before transferring to a critical care area such as the ER or ICU. It gave the novice time to recognize common meds, doses, and normal baselines. It also gave the staff the time to precept and evaluate the critical thinking and performance of the new nurse in a less critical situation and with more benign medications.
As an RN I would never administer IV fentanyl to anybody. That's the doctor's job.They charged the dr, now charge the nurses who administered the lethal doses.
As an RN I would never administer IV fentanyl to anybody. That's the doctor's job.
As an RN I would never administer IV fentanyl to anybody. That's the doctor's job.
Fentanyl was the drug suspected to be placed into fake Vicodin that contributed to Prince's death.
Prince died after taking counterfeit Vicodin laced with fentanyl, prosecutor says
That stuff is very dangerous.
Fentanyl is also the drug that certain drug dealers are using to spike into heroin batches and its killing people everywhere.
"said Raymond Donovan, special agent in charge of the DEA's New York Field Office. "Fentanyl is the deadliest threat facing communities nationwide."
22 indicted on heroin, fentanyl drug trafficking charges with link to Mexican cartel
Not necessarily, I'm an RN and routinely give IV Fentanyl to patients in a PACU unit for post operative pain. This is absolutely within an RN's scope of practice. I've never had a Dr. give any pain medication themselves. Even if they are at the bedside they will give the order and the RN will administer the medication. However I would never even give 100mcg at one time not to mention 1,000mcg. I typically give 25mcg at a time to patients in severe pain while they are on a monitor and I am at the bedside throughout their PACU stay. We have Narcan in every PACU bay. I also have worked at facilities that used Fentanyl PCA's for pain control on a medical/surgical floor. The nurse set the PCA up to the dose the Dr. ordered and then gives the patient the PCA button so they can administer it themselves. I can't remember what the dose they were allowed but a PCA will lock the patient out after a certain dosage is given with a specific time period.
He was using "override function" to gain access to large doses of medication.
"And records released this week by state health inspectors – who conducted site surveys at Mount Carmel West and St. Ann’s hospitals – noted that the hospital “failed to ensure a system was in place to monitor and prevent large doses” of medication from being accessed via an override function on the hospitals’ medication dispensing machines."
'We are all hurting': Families of Mount Carmel patients say they’re reliving loved ones’ deaths
Thanks @jjenny.
I was questioning whether the fentanyl was IV continuous or push.
Per the video it sounds like in many of the cases, the loved one was dying and that Husel accelerate their deaths.
Video in the link @ 02:06 states the Jim Allen received 1,000 mcg IV Push, Inject, Once.
It was heartbreaking seeing and hearing the families speak of their loved ones.
MOO