OH - Emily Noble, 52, Westerville, 24 May 2020 *husband not guilty*

[Truman]

Another bit of information from the 911 call-

"According to the 9-1-1 call, the women were looking for Noble when they spotted a body on its knees and it appeared the person had hung themselves in the woods."

Police working to identify body found in woods near where Westerville woman went missing

 

[Dnp2be]

Still no confirmation on identification.

 

[MissUnderstood]

How bizarre! I’d be interested to know, if this is Emily, what she was found wearing. So she went out for a nice dinner with husband, and then decided to go across the road and hang herself! Emily’s disappearance sound weird from the start, I’m sure there has to be parts of the story we don’t know!!! Whoever this is I’m glad they will get their name back
MOO

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Clothing or no clothing found with the body?

LE could have MM view any found clothing for potential identification but I expect that has not happened.

EN's 5 feet tall, 100 pound stature certainly fits with the "tiny" in stature as reported in the 911 call.

Odd circumstances simply surround this case.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

911 caller told Westerville police body found appeared to be female; forensic autopsy to be conducted

 

[ChuckMaureen]

I'm wondering if EN woke up to find MM not in their bed and wondered if he just left her? Maybe she left the dwelling to search and met with foul play?

Just speculating until we get word of body identification....

 

[oviedo]

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Area where body was found in Westerville searched several times for missing Emily Noble
Local News
by: NBC4 Staff

Posted: Sep 17, 2020 / 10:52 AM EDT / Updated: Sep 17, 2020 / 12:12 PM EDT
WESTERVILLE, Ohio (WCMH) — Police in Westerville, along with family, friends and volunteers have spent nearly four months searching for Emily Noble.

Police say Emily Noble was last seen on May 24, a day after celebrating her 52nd birthday. Neighbors reported seeing her outside her home on County Line Road and State Street that evening.

Her husband told police she was gone when he woke up on May 25.

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The Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation was called to assist with the investigation.

The area where the body was found has been searched multiple times over the last four months. Searches of nearby bodies of water have been unsuccessful.
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hmm - if her body was placed here recently well that would indicate to me there is some staging involved -
JMO

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

Area where body was found in Westerville searched several times for missing Emily Noble
Local News
by: NBC4 Staff

Posted: Sep 17, 2020 / 10:52 AM EDT / Updated: Sep 17, 2020 / 12:12 PM EDT
WESTERVILLE, Ohio (WCMH) — Police in Westerville, along with family, friends and volunteers have spent nearly four months searching for Emily Noble.

Police say Emily Noble was last seen on May 24, a day after celebrating her 52nd birthday. Neighbors reported seeing her outside her home on County Line Road and State Street that evening.

Her husband told police she was gone when he woke up on May 25.

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The Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation was called to assist with the investigation.

The area where the body was found has been searched multiple times over the last four months. Searches of nearby bodies of water have been unsuccessful.
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hmm - if her body was placed here recently well that would indicate to me there is some staging involved -
JMO

Let's remember the people who discovered the remains also indicated a rope was on the scene. That suggests hanging... and the body would have been suspended above ground, maybe high enough that ground searchers and even cadaver dogs might not have caught sight nor scent. The person may have climbed up the tree, and the length of the rope plus body length might have been just short enough to keep the suspended body 'hidden' up in the leaves.

After weathering and perhaps bugs, the rope may have broken and the body released to the ground.

SPECULATION ONLY!

 

[K9Enzo]

bbm
Let's remember the people who discovered the remains also indicated a rope was on the scene. That suggests hanging... and the body would have been suspended above ground, maybe high enough that ground searchers and even cadaver dogs might not have caught sight nor scent. The person may have climbed up the tree, and the length of the rope plus body length might have short enough to keep the suspended body up in the leaves.

After weathering and perhaps bugs, the rope may have broken and the body released to the ground.

SPECULATION ONLY!

I agree. IMO, the body in most cases, especially exposed to the elements, will eventually fall to the ground in the decomp process. Bodily fluids would also flow to the lower part of the body. Searchers often don’t think to look up. Bodies are often times hard to locate, especially when they take on the color of the environment. Some folks have described them looking like twisted brown towels. The dogs, can’t explain that but the list goes on with possible reasons. IMO

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Some of these details are just so sad and awful.
May she be at peace.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I agree. IMO, the body in most cases, especially exposed to the elements, will eventually fall to the ground in the decomp process. Bodily fluids would also flow to the lower part of the body. Searchers often don’t think to look up. Bodies are often times hard to locate, especially when they take on the color of the environment. Some folks have described them looking like twisted brown towels. The dogs, can’t explain that but the list goes on with possible reasons. IMO

How high do you think someone is usually off the ground when they hand themselves in a tree? They either have to climb it themselves or have some sort of stool to reach a limb and then the rope is a few feet. The fact is when someone commits suicide via hanging in a tree, they are usually not that far off the ground, a few feet off the ground. (Many people who hang themselves at home only need a door knob for tension)

I'm not going into unnecessary detail but you'd basically walk into a person's knees/legs/feet if you encountered someone hanging from a tree. No need to look up, you'll run into them.

It's also pretty unusual for a woman to commit suicide via hanging outdoors. When it comes to suicide women usually do it in the home, it's very rare for them to end their life outdoors.

Given that the area was so heavily searched over the summer my guess is someone moved the body to that area and threw a noose over a tree limb to stage the scene. I could be wrong, but its something the killer might have done due to feeling paranoid or pressure mounting. The autopsy findings should clear up the matter. You can't really fake certain things so if the body truly had been there for months they will know.

 

[K9Enzo]

How high do you think someone is usually off the ground when they hand themselves in a tree? They either have to climb it themselves or have some sort of stool to reach a limb and then the rope is a few feet. The fact is when someone commits suicide via hanging in a tree, they are usually not that far off the ground, a few feet off the ground. (Many people who hang themselves at home only need a door knob for tension)

I'm not going into unnecessary detail but you'd basically walk into a person's knees/legs/feet if you encountered someone hanging from a tree. No need to look up, you'll run into them.

It's also pretty unusual for a woman to commit suicide via hanging outdoors. When it comes to suicide women usually do it in the home, it's very rare for them to end their life outdoors.

Given that the area was so heavily searched over the summer my guess is someone moved the body to that area and threw a noose over a tree limb to stage the scene. I could be wrong, but its something the killer might have done due to feeling paranoid or pressure mounting. The autopsy findings should clear up the matter. You can't really fake certain things so if the body truly had been there for months they will know.

I’m fairly confident the ME will know if the body did not decompose in that area based on several clear factors. IMO

I’m trying to visualize someone moving a presumably deceased body from May, in the condition it would be in September (from where?) & successfully staging it off the road in a wooded area. This is almost a hard no for me. IMO

We of course don’t even know if these remains are of this poor missing woman. IMO

 

[MissUnderstood]

If this is Emily, I can only hope this was by her own hand. I can’t imagine how family and friends are feeling right now.

 

[kelsie]

After listening to the Vanished pod, I don't get the vibe her husband did it. I don't know what to think. Perhaps suicide.

 

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[oviedo]

Police working to identify body found in woods near where Westerville woman went missing

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According to the 9-1-1 call, the women were looking for Noble when they spotted a body on its knees and it appeared the person had hung themselves in the woods.
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hmm "on its knees" implies it is not laying down IMO- so how would this work?
I'm not finding any updated MSM which has identified this body. anyone finding any updates?

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

How high do you think someone is usually off the ground when they hand themselves in a tree? They either have to climb it themselves or have some sort of stool to reach a limb and then the rope is a few feet. The fact is when someone commits suicide via hanging in a tree, they are usually not that far off the ground, a few feet off the ground. (Many people who hang themselves at home only need a door knob for tension)

I'm not going into unnecessary detail but you'd basically walk into a person's knees/legs/feet if you encountered someone hanging from a tree. No need to look up, you'll run into them.

It's also pretty unusual for a woman to commit suicide via hanging outdoors. When it comes to suicide women usually do it in the home, it's very rare for them to end their life outdoors.

Given that the area was so heavily searched over the summer my guess is someone moved the body to that area and threw a noose over a tree limb to stage the scene. I could be wrong, but its something the killer might have done due to feeling paranoid or pressure mounting. The autopsy findings should clear up the matter. You can't really fake certain things so if the body truly had been there for months they will know.

Yes, it is less likely for women and men to attempt and succeed at suicide by method of hanging. By firearm and poisoning are the most-frequently used methods.

But, we have this:

Compared to women, men who completed suicide with firearms were more likely to be married and committed the act at home. Unmarried men were likelier to hang themselves than married men, but unmarried women were less likely to hang themselves than married women. Men with a history of depression were more likely to suicide by hanging, but women with depression were half as likely to hang themselves compared to the women without a history of depression.

Gender differences in suicide methods - PubMed

• EN is married.
• EN also has no reported history of depression.

Women are 3 times more likely to *attempt* suicide and women have suicidal thoughts more often than men and the successful suicide rate is increasing in women:
U.S. Suicide Rates Are Rising Faster Among Women Than Men

By hanging is a less likely method but it's still a concern because the rate of method by hanging had increased in at least the previous decade:
Increase in Suicide by Hanging/Suffocation in the U.S., 2000–2010

Charlotte Ann Molinari committed suicide outdoors by hanging, her body was discovered between Canyon Trail and Skycrest Way, a street just outside a park in Sonoma County, CA:
Missing Santa Rosa teen's body found in Annadel

Lindsey Piccone committed suicide outdoors (assumed overdose), her body discovered in a field in Tyler State Park in Bucks County, PA:
Missing woman’s body found

I disagree that "heavily searched" is a guarantee of a complete and thorough search.

In the Piccone case, the knee-high grass field in which her body was eventually discovered had been searched numerous times. Her body was on the ground and yet, numerous searchers walked right by the area without noticing the body.

 

[kelsie]

This would make the most sense to me if it is Emily and she killed herself. I feel so awful for her fam and friends.

 

[Truman]

LIVE: Dental records say Emily Noble’s body found, say Westerville PD | NBC4 WCMH-TV

It's Emily

 

[Dre]

Noooo!!!
So it appears she took her own life just some hours after her birthday dinner? Heartbreaking.