OH - Emily Noble, 52, Westerville, 24 May 2020 *husband not guilty*

  • #321
The defense's opening statement was brilliant.

Time and time again, we are told that the opening statement is NOT evidence (i.e., remember Jose Baez a la CA).

Defense attorney Diane Menashe told the jurors that an expert from the TN Body Farm would testify about the Science of decomposition resulting in skeletonized remains and that the expert was initially hired by the Prosecution but they passed on her when her independent report did not support their speculation to which the Prosecutor jumped to his feet and objected.

I've never heard an objection during an opening statement before! I suspect it was probably the same prosecutor that stormed out of the courtroom during the Judge's ruling on Motion 29.

Science doesn't discriminate. Science doesn't lie. MOO
 
  • #322
From the trial we learned things were fine until his son committed suicide. It's quite common for marriages to fall apart after a suicide of a child or another close family member.

Agree. IMO, EN had more experience dealing with suicide than did the defendant. Sadly, her husband before she married MM also committed suicide.
 
  • #323
I will admit to having a girl crush on Diane (the defense attorney).
^^rsbm.

I completely understand!! I've seen Diane Menashe at trial before and I really respect an attorney that is so prepared for a case and her client.

I learned in earlier interviews that she purposely made the decision and/or pledge to herself when she became a defense lawyer that she would know the evidence better than the prosecutor, and the investigation details, better than the detectives, where she would be able to present her case without speaking from any notes at trial.

Rockstar all the way! :cool:
 
  • #324
Agree. IMO, EN had more experience dealing with suicide than did the defendant. Sadly, her husband before she married MM also committed suicide.

These are the suicides/deaths in Emily's life that we learned about in the trial
2011 - her husband Mark, suicide
2012 - a good female friend, suicide
2015 - her dad dies after a fall
2016 - her mom, car accident
2017 - her husband's brother, suicide
2019 - Joey, Matt's son, suicide

Also, her MIL & FIL (Mark's parents), suicide - Menashe didn't mention the dates.
 
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These are the suicides/deaths in Emily's life that we learned about in the trial
2011 - her husband Mark, suicide
2012 - a good female friend, suicide
2015 - her dad dies after a fall
2016 - her mom, car accident
2017 - her husband's brother, suicide
2019 - Joey, Matt's son, suicide

Also, her MIL & FIL (Mark's parents), suicide - Menashe didn't mention the dates.

I'm watching day 2 of the trial and the busybody neighbor is testifying about how he called the case detective about suspicious vehicles he'd see in the neighborhood. One of the vehicle plates he phoned in happened to be MM's father. I'd read earlier that his dad passed away Oct 2021 -- just a couple of months after his son was arrested for Emily's murder.

IMO, MM and EN were definitely a couple of lonely hearts drawn to each other, and sad how it all ended. Also, don't know if this came up during trial but EM filed both a Durable Power of Attorney and Last Will and Testament in May 2019 where she named MM her POA, and at death, designated all her estate to her spouse.

By complaint filed (and published) Sept 2, 2020, MM was requested removed as POA/Fiduciary for reasons including EN's sister Amy paid the 2nd half of property taxes on Aug 6, 2020 (DUE DATE AUG 20, 2020), and EM's disappearance believed criminal MM being investigated.



ETA: A hearing for the Complaint had been set for 12/1/2020. On 9/28/2020, MM's lawyer requested an extension to respond to the Complaint until 10/31/2020, and continue the hearing. Take note the Complaint predated locating EN's remains.

Although the motion to extend EN's probate granted to 12/2022 -- sure seems like the husband, MM, was being railroaded from the start.

05/16/2022Non Oral Hearing ScheduledNon Oral Hearing Scheduled Event: PROBATE NON-ORAL MAGISTRATE Date: 12/09/2022 Time: 8:30 am Judge: Non Oral Location: Probate Courtroom Per 5/16/22 Entry Extending Administration to 12/9/22.
 
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  • #327
I'm watching day 2 of the trial and the busybody neighbor is testifying about how he called the case detective about suspicious vehicles he'd see in the neighborhood. One of the vehicle plates he phoned in happened to be MM's father. I'd read earlier that his dad passed away Oct 2021 -- just a couple of months after his son was arrested for Emily's murder.

IMO, MM and EN were definitely a couple of lonely hearts drawn to each other, and sad how it all ended. Also, don't know if this came up during trial but EM filed both a Durable Power of Attorney and Last Will and Testament in May 2019 where she named MM her POA, and at death, designated all her estate to her spouse.

By complaint filed (and published) Sept 2, 2020, MM was requested removed as POA/Fiduciary for reasons including EN's sister Amy paid the 2nd half of property taxes on Aug 6, 2020 (DUE DATE AUG 15, 2020), and EM's disappearance believed criminal MM being investigated.



I've slowly been reading through the probate documents. They did talk about it a little bit in the trial. Menashe brought out the fact that apparently Detective Grubbs made an appearance at one of the hearings and told the judge that LE had searched the area where Emily was found 3 times
 
  • #328
I'm watching day 2 of the trial and the busybody neighbor is testifying about how he called the case detective about suspicious vehicles he'd see in the neighborhood. One of the vehicle plates he phoned in happened to be MM's father. I'd read earlier that his dad passed away Oct 2021 -- just a couple of months after his son was arrested for Emily's murder.
^^rsbbm

Also on day 2, we learned from MM's journal entries (legal pad) that MM also lost his mother not long before his son's suicide. Just further emphasizes this lonely hearts club tragedy. MOO
 
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Day 5 and I can hardly stomach prosecutor Melissa Schiffel's little girl voice and giddiness with prosecution expert witness, Dr. Smock, after the continuous disrespect of the Court, and the harsh tone she uses with Judge Wolaver. I've never seen anything like it! MOO :mad:
 
  • #332
I think birthdays can trigger life/death decisions that nobody is aware of. I had a college mate that committed suicide also by hanging (in the early morning following her 25th birthday). Decades later I stopped to visit her family when traveling on business but did not know that her father had passed a couple of months earlier. What I learned from her then elderly mother during my visit was that her childhood journal was full of random entries where she'd pledge to end her life if she didn't accomplish x by her next birthday. Goals like getting an A grade in mathematics or fitting her school uniform without alterations. Goals that might sound silly but were very much life-threatening events to her. I also learned that her paternal grandmother died of suicide. The human psyche is complex -- nobody is exempt from mental disease. MOO
 
  • #333
Brilliant. I trust the Court will restore his rights to assume all the duties and benefits that the decedent made known in her LWAT.
I really hope so!
Otherwise... not sure how are people around him (and specially `angry` neighbors) going to react these days, after everything...
It`s best for him to sell the house and move away.... (as far as possible)
 
  • #334
State's closing -- I'm always amazed how intelligent people suggest they know exactly how a suicidal person will act or what they will do on the date they commit suicide.

IMO, there's a 50% chance you will make the bed just as there is a 50% chance whether or not you will follow through on the act when you reach the woods. Actually, studies report that 44.4% of suicide attempts were impulsive.

 
  • #335
State's closing -- I'm always amazed how intelligent people suggest they know exactly how a suicidal person will act or what they will do on the date they commit suicide.

IMO, there's a 50% chance you will make the bed just as there is a 50% chance whether or not you will follow through on the act when you reach the woods. Actually, studies report that 44.4% of suicide attempts were impulsive.


Thank you.

I hear often - “but they were making plans for the future. They wouldn’t commit suicide.”

Not true. I know of someone who committed suicide after grocery shopping and getting gas. IMO
 
  • #336
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Unfortunately,
- Em diD suffer from depression (which is the key risk factor for suicide).
One of the examples of her history of depression (and her own sister nOt knowing that... meaning how she kept those things mostly to herself, while her friends were thinking that she was ‚‚haaappppy‚‚ or ‚‚ok‚‚.. -
- plus, she wAs using alcohol, throughout the years, even on her last day(s), including the very last one when she was found with a water bottle that contained 6,3% of alcohol (and she was even found drunk, on the street, on July the 1st 2017, by police (then a friend T. Durbin took her home to take care of her),
- she Did have a chronic pain, for ex. due to a pin (that was later removed) in her ankle,
- and - a pretty lOt of family history of suicide;
- plus there is a part of her life that had must of been having a pretty much influence (impact), but they just mentioned it in trial (and never actually talked about that). But, for me, this part is very significant (phone call on June 2020. between detective G. and EN sister), since it includes trauma - sexual abuse, by a family member
+ the 2 of them (E&A) have an older brother, Andrew, who lives one hour away from Abycross Ln, that they didn't talk to for years or so... Her sister doesn't even remember the year of his birth, lol
And those ar (just) some of the things I wish we could know more about. For ex. did they investigate those people and circumstances involved in E life...? If yes, did they do it thoroughly!?
...or the same way they ''searched the area that she was found - THREE times'' (as they said at first, but actually - came to the point of Zero times)...?
I mean - if they really think (or...want to think...or want US the bolive) - this was a homicide...

P.s. I am so sorry I found this forum so late, since I had so many questions throughout the trial. Most of them - still unanswered. And I dont have anyone around me to talk about all of this... I still wake up in the middle of the night with things that continues to bother me and I don't think I can resolve that, unless I find all the answers, lol
 
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  • #337
Imagine the tantrum they are having now. OH needs to do something about these rogue prosecutors and The Innocence Project needs to set up shop there. It's so rare for people who are accused to get a top notch attorney like Menashe, so there is no telling how many innocent people are rotting in prison there.
Not just Ohio. "Rogue" prosecutors are an issue everywhere IMO.
 
  • #338

“Delaware County Prosecutor Believes Evidence Is Overrated

by Ricardo Paye

Delaware County Prosecutor Melissa Schiffel is defending her decision to try a man for murder despite not having any evidence he committed the crime or that a murder even took place.

The prosecutor’s statements come a week after a jury found Matheau Moore not guilty in Delaware County Common Pleas Court. The Westerville man was charged with killing his wife, Emily Noble, and staging her death to look like a suicide. Noble was reported missing in May 2020. Her body was found hanging from a tree in a wooded area near her home later that September.

“A lot of people wanted this to be murder, myself included. When enough people said it must have been murder, I started to agree. I love a good murder,” Schiffel said. “The murder narrative sounds better than suicide, and the narrative is more important than the evidence. Evidence is overrated.”

Schiffel`s plan to advance her political career by railroading an innocent man was thwarted when Moore hired skilled defense counsel.

Defense attorney Diane Menashe shredded the state’s purely speculative case, going so far as to accuse the prosecution of preying upon an unsophisticated man who lacked the means to defend himself.

“The prosecution had no case; they knew they had no case,” said Menashe. “But they had the confidence to try it anyways because they figured Mr. Moore was too weak to put up much of a fight. Thankfully they were wrong. But it makes you wonder: how many people haven’t been as lucky here in Delaware County? How many innocent people are in prison or have had their lives destroyed because of prosecutors like Melissa Schiffel and Mark Sleeper?”

Mark Sleeper was the assistant prosecutor on the case. Before trial, he was caught on a hot mic asking Schiffel if they should proceed even though Moore was likely innocent. Schiffel replied, “Mark, just do your job and fry this guy. Our reputation as God’s justice is at stake.”

Schiffel says she has no plans to deviate from her “What’s Truth?” prosecutorial strategy despite being embarrassed on national television.

“This case doesn’t change anything,” Schiffel said. “Give me another Polaris shooting, and people will forget what I did to Mr. Moore. Looking tough on crime is all I need to get re-elected.”

Delaware County Prosecutor Believes Evidence Is Overrated - Delaware Ohio News
Is this for real..!? o_O
 
  • #339

“Delaware County Prosecutor Believes Evidence Is Overrated

by Ricardo Paye

Delaware County Prosecutor Melissa Schiffel is defending her decision to try a man for murder despite not having any evidence he committed the crime or that a murder even took place.

The prosecutor’s statements come a week after a jury found Matheau Moore not guilty in Delaware County Common Pleas Court. The Westerville man was charged with killing his wife, Emily Noble, and staging her death to look like a suicide. Noble was reported missing in May 2020. Her body was found hanging from a tree in a wooded area near her home later that September.

“A lot of people wanted this to be murder, myself included. When enough people said it must have been murder, I started to agree. I love a good murder,” Schiffel said. “The murder narrative sounds better than suicide, and the narrative is more important than the evidence. Evidence is overrated.”

Schiffel`s plan to advance her political career by railroading an innocent man was thwarted when Moore hired skilled defense counsel.

Defense attorney Diane Menashe shredded the state’s purely speculative case, going so far as to accuse the prosecution of preying upon an unsophisticated man who lacked the means to defend himself.

“The prosecution had no case; they knew they had no case,” said Menashe. “But they had the confidence to try it anyways because they figured Mr. Moore was too weak to put up much of a fight. Thankfully they were wrong. But it makes you wonder: how many people haven’t been as lucky here in Delaware County? How many innocent people are in prison or have had their lives destroyed because of prosecutors like Melissa Schiffel and Mark Sleeper?”

Mark Sleeper was the assistant prosecutor on the case. Before trial, he was caught on a hot mic asking Schiffel if they should proceed even though Moore was likely innocent. Schiffel replied, “Mark, just do your job and fry this guy. Our reputation as God’s justice is at stake.”

Schiffel says she has no plans to deviate from her “What’s Truth?” prosecutorial strategy despite being embarrassed on national television.

“This case doesn’t change anything,” Schiffel said. “Give me another Polaris shooting, and people will forget what I did to Mr. Moore. Looking tough on crime is all I need to get re-elected.”

Delaware County Prosecutor Believes Evidence Is Overrated - Delaware Ohio News
Is this for real..!? o_O

I’d guess satire. Look at the horns they’ve Photoshopped onto her picture. (I assume that’s her picture?)
 
  • #340
I’d guess satire. Look at the horns they’ve Photoshopped onto her picture. (I assume that’s her picture?)

OOoomg,you`re sooo right!!! My apologie :(

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