OH OH - Harley Dilly, 14, enroute to Port Clinton High School, 20 Dec 2019

[Kiranerys]

Site is being wonky and parts of posts aren't showing up properly.

But I wanted to say after watching this latest transcribed video (good job, btw) ; the family reminds me strongly of the family of the nine year old who allegedly burned down his family's trailer with the boyfriend and and elderly woman and three toddlers.
Only the boy and his mom escaped.
The video that Harley uploaded gave me the same vibe.
Very sad and disturbing to hear.

Same here,I thought this as soon as I was aware of Harleys social media presence,it instantly put me in mind of KA and the implications aren't great!. This latest video,well I could easily have mistaken it for one of KA's if I didnt know it was Harleys

 

[osu]

IIRC, his mother made a statement saying that he was bullied by his older sister when he was younger, and has PTSD. Did I get that right? I wondered if that was why LE was searching her place.

That’s correct. It was the video of Harley talking about the kids at school joking about 9-11. The video was posted September 11, 2017 on the Port Clinton page. Under that video his mother commented that Harley is an empathetic boy due to having PTSD from past abuse from his sister.

From what I’ve read and it’s my opinion only the sister and mom did not get along well at all but their relationship is better now that the sister has moved out of state. I’ve read the sisters recent posts and she seems genuinely worried and concerned about Harley. She posting his missing posters and pleading for him to come home.

**Not placing blame on anyone at all as my daughter and I certainly had our times during those difficult teenage years.

JMHO

 

[Sissy123]

Wow!!!. This fits with things I have read elsewhere,and by the sounds of his commentary Harley is used to this kind of behaviour,seems normal to him,how he is apologising for it and like oh you'll have to excuse them kind of thing,a bit like I have to apologise all the time for my over excitable dog when she leaps all over visitors like a thing possessed.

This is breaking my heart. Poor, poor Harley. The recording could have been my husband and I when my son was little.

We both came from abusive homes, and he was a rager. The fights we had were horrific, in front of our young son. He would curse and rant exactly as Harley's dad.

He never once laid a hand on me or our son.
However, I was always deeply concerned that as our son grew and became a teen, dad may stop holding back. I've seen cases where kids weren't hit til they were older, and they could "man up and take it"

He was given an ultimatum and I'm glad to state that after getting help, this is no longer our issue.

I have two points to this:
1. Being a rager does not necessarily make you a physical abuser.
2. This behavior absolutely effects children, even if you don't hit them.

My son is doing wonderfully now, but when he was younger, I was very concerned of what would develop.
If this behavior was typical in his house, it would definitely be causing him issues. Maybe this is why this case hit me so hard.
I'm so glad we worked to break the cycle in our home, but I'm devastated over how many others are still suffering.

Oh Harley, I'm so sorry hun.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

This is breaking my heart. Poor, poor Harley. The recording could have been my husband and I when my son was little.

We both came from abusive homes, and he was a rager. The fights we had were horrific, in front of our young son. He would curse and rant exactly as Harley's dad.

He never once laid a hand on me or our son.
However, I was always deeply concerned that as our son grew and became a teen, dad may stop holding back. I've seen cases where kids weren't hit til they were older, and they could "man up and take it"

He was given an ultimatum and I'm glad to state that after getting help, this is no longer our issue.

I have two points to this:
1. Being a rager does not necessarily make you a physical abuser.
2. This behavior absolutely effects children, even if you don't hit them.

My son is doing wonderfully now, but when he was younger, I was very concerned of what would develop.
If this behavior was typical in his house, it would definitely be causing him issues. Maybe this is why this case hit me so hard.
I'm so glad we worked to break the cycle in our home, but I'm devastated over how many others are still suffering.

Oh Harley, I'm so sorry hun.

I appreciate your honesty and sharing. I, too, came from a family with a very physical and emotionally abusive alcoholic father. As the oldest of six, I’m deeply scarred forever but am now able to live my life in peace and happiness with my own family. All my siblings were also affected resulting in two tragic substance abuse deaths and a suicide. Lots and lots of therapy over the years since I was a teen has improved my life and calmed my brain and soul to finally accept the past and move forward. The generational abusive cycle is over. My three sisters and I have successfully broken that circle of fear and abuse.
Still, it is what it is.

 

[Sissy123]

I appreciate your honesty and sharing. I, too, came from a family with a very physical and emotionally abusive alcoholic father. As the oldest of six, I’m deeply scarred forever but am now able to live my life in peace and happiness with my own family. All my siblings were also affected resulting in two tragic substance abuse deaths and a suicide. Lots and lots of therapy over the years since I was a teen has improved my life and calmed my brain and soul to finally accept the past and move forward. The generational abusive cycle is over. My three sisters and I have successfully broken that circle of fear and abuse.
Still, it is what it is.

I'm glad you and your siblings have overcome to break the cycle. That's the strength we need to fix this world.

Unfortunately , these things live with us forever. I developed CPTSD and BPD and it has definitely caused me issues as an adult.

However, as you said, with therapy, and LOTS of determination, the cycles CAN be stopped.

Generational abuse. I like how you used that term, because it's all too correct My great grandmother abused my grandmother, who almost killed my dad when he was a baby, who was then abusive to his daughter. And that's just one branch. Don't even get me started on mom and step mom.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I'm glad you and your siblings have overcome to break the cycle. That's the strength we need to fix this world.

Unfortunately , these things live with us forever. I developed CPTSD and BPD and it has definitely caused me issues as an adult.

However, as you said, with therapy, and LOTS of determination, the cycles CAN be stopped.

Generational abuse. I like how used that term, because it's all too correct My great grandmother abused my grandmother, who almost killed my dad when he was a baby, who was then abusive to his daughter. And that's just one branch. Don't even get me started on mom and step mom.

Yes ma’am they can. Once I realized being strong is the ONLY choice I have, the willpower is unstoppable.

 

[gregjrichards]

I had this discussion with my husband the other day!, I was researching the Kevin Bacon case and I felt the need to tell my husband that if anything happened to me or he happened to be looking at my phone for whatever reason,not to worry about the rentmen gay escort page I had been looking at,not to mention he many many saved screenshots and pages and pages of psychopaths etc

I’ve often wondered how many of us Websleuthers are on FBI/MI6 watchlists due to our internet searches about murder cases, murder weapons, how long DNA evidence can survive, forensics on remains and my posts and searches on terrorist attacks.

 

[Linda7NJ]

The stroke and heart condition info came from somewhere in this thread. I haven’t seen any news articles stating this or when/if she suffered the stroke. I can speak to stroke conditions and deficiencies based on the severity of her stroke. There are types of strokes from TIA’s to massive blood clot strokes. Deficiencies are a result based on what side of the brain was damaged. My right brain strokes have left me with left side physical damage requiring long term rehab. Times are still sometimes confusing and my short term memory is affected. The most immediate cognitive impairment is impulse control. I still have to work with my brain through self talk and interaction with others. It’s a process. Some days are better than others.

The moms’s medical condition hasn’t been verified in any news reports that I can find.

Harley did a video on it after his long absence from social media - mom
Refers to her condition in her video pleasing for his return.

 

[Sissy123]

Yes ma’am they can. Once I realized being strong is the ONLY choice I have, the willpower is unstoppable.

And realizing you'll be damned if you allow your children to go through it. I'm not perfect, but I love my boys. My only real goal as a parent is to raise happy, FUNCTIONAL adults that don't need years of therapy to recover from their childhood or worse, children who never get help and continue to cycle.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I'm glad you and your siblings have overcome to break the cycle. That's the strength we need to fix this world.

Unfortunately , these things live with us forever. I developed CPTSD and BPD and it has definitely caused me issues as an adult.

However, as you said, with therapy, and LOTS of determination, the cycles CAN be stopped.

Generational abuse. I like how you used that term, because it's all too correct My great grandmother abused my grandmother, who almost killed my dad when he was a baby, who was then abusive to his daughter. And that's just one branch. Don't even get me started on mom and step mom.

Oh girl, I could write a novel on the generational abuse. My father (passed in July 2019) was the oldest of eleven. There are only five remaining of his family. All lost to violence, substance abuse and psychological damage. It’s like a family tree with broken branches. It’s so sad. Fortunately, there are now so many more avenues of help, support and assistance. None were available to my generation or my parents, or their parents, or their parent’s parents. It goes on and on backwards. We are all determined our branches will be so strong, we’ll never have to look back. Moving and marching forward with a new pattern of unconditional love and strength passed on to our children.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I’ve often wondered how many of us Websleuthers are on FBI/MI6 watchlists due to our internet searches about murder cases, murder weapons, how long DNA evidence can survive, forensics on remains and my posts and searches on terrorist attacks.

I know. Right? I was once in a discussion group blog for eight years and I was researching through WaybackMachine for a case and came up with an ISIS terrorist file and immediately got a scary strange governmental message told me I was not authorized to read the confidential files. I never ever went back to that file. It frightened me a bit, it was so official. I erased the data from my old iPad but ...you know stuff stays forever on the internet. It is amazing what you can find through researching and digging deep.

 

[Sissy123]

Oh girl, I could write a novel on the generational abuse. My father (passed in July 2019) was the oldest of eleven. There are only five remaining of his family. All lost to violence, substance abuse and psychological damage. It’s like a family tree with broken branches. It’s so sad. Fortunately, there are now so many more avenues of help, support and assistance. None were available to my generation or my parents, or their parents, or their parent’s parents. It goes on and on backwards. We are all determined our branches will be so strong, we’ll never have to look back. Moving and marching forward with a new pattern of unconditional love and strength passed on to our children.

I'm so sorry for you and I and every child forced to live in these situations. While there is more help and avenues now, it is also so unbelievably common.

Thankfully, it looks like cycles have stopped and that will save an unknown number of youngins in the future.

And I believe, being open about it helps too. People don't realize how common it actually is and sharing gives strength to others to know that they too can stop the abuse.

Maybe as children we couldn't, but we're not children anymore.

I just hope Harley had someone in his life he was able to talk to. And when (I'm not giving up yet) he comes back i hope his family will get the counseling they all clearly need.

 

[Sissy123]

I know. Right? I was once in a discussion group blog for eight years and I was researching through WaybackMachine for a case and came up with an ISIS terrorist file and immediately got a scary strange governmental message told me I was not authorized to read the confidential files. I never ever went back to that file. It frightened me a bit, it was so official. I erased the data from my old iPad but ...you know stuff stays forever on the internet. It is amazing what you can find through researching and digging deep.

Ha ha. I can only imagine the slight paranoia that the government would be knocking at my door to take me away for finding classified information.

I stole a city construction barricade when I was 18. I hid it my closet under blankets for a year, I was so afraid "they" were going to get me.

 

[gregjrichards]

It is becoming very hard to be optimistic about Harley’s case he has been gone a long time now with no sightings of him that we know of. It’s too long for someone his age to be fending for himself and hiding out somewhere. It is not good at all.

 

[Sissy123]

It is becoming very hard to be optimistic about Harley’s case he has been gone a long time now with no sightings of him that we know of. It’s too long for someone his age to be fending for himself and hiding out somewhere. It is not good at all.

I know, but there are miracles and cases like this with happy endings. We can't stop hoping .
Harley deserves that much.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Rewards are vital to increase awareness but can anyone here remember a case when a reward was granted after providing a tip leading to a successful outcome?

 

[alyssa5597]

In one of Harley’s videos (posted back in the thread), he talks about the ambulances coming to the house, his mom had a heart attack and a stroke and he had to go stay with his aunt and uncle for a week. IIRC, the video was in August ‘19.

JMO

Yes, the video is posted pages back with a transcript. It was uploaded in April 2019.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I’m wondering if the reason we don’t have more images of Harley is because he was not alone in the video?

but that doesn’t make sense either ...if they needed to identify the other person

 

[Linda7NJ]

I know. Right? I was once in a discussion group blog for eight years and I was researching through WaybackMachine for a case and came up with an ISIS terrorist file and immediately got a scary strange governmental message told me I was not authorized to read the confidential files. I never ever went back to that file. It frightened me a bit, it was so official. I erased the data from my old iPad but ...you know stuff stays forever on the internet. It is amazing what you can find through researching and digging deep.

while researching book titles during the michael jackson trial - I clicked on a thumbnail image of the book cover I found in a link. I fell into a kiddie site- I stoppped dead in my tracks- I was terrified and reported it to center for lost & exploited children.

the internet is dangerous- especially for kids.
I compare it to dropping your kid off in NYC without supervision and expecting nothing bad to happen.

 

[Bellecent]

I agree. It is not 44 hours, it is 12 hours from when they thought he would come home. If he was pissed on Friday they would have expected him to stay at a friends house that night. He didn't come home after school, so they thought he was still angry and would be back home the next day. When he didn't return home on Saturday they became concerned. It was not like him. So finally, on Saturday night they called law enforcement to report him as missing. This is not rocket science.

Why did they not stop over to the friends house they thought he was before dinner to tell him they would be at dinner since they could not call him?